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Best and Worst Pawn Stories

bassbully said:
Understood, but thats the chance they take and why it's is called a pawn shop...did the guy who did they deal know this..doubful. Reguardless they will cover the loss and make a profit..they always do. We agree to disagree.

Bassbully, they ask outright if you want to pawn or sell, there is a difference. In this instance, the customer wanted to trade even up (sell), he had no intention of coming back for the bass.

When you pawn, an interest rate and time frame to pay back the "loan" is set up. When you fail to fulfill the obligation, the item in question becomes the property of the pawn shop. When you sell an item, they hand you the cash and the item becomes the property of the pawn shop then and there.

In this instance, the customer wanted to trade (sell) one item for another, even up, with no intention of retrieving the traded item (hence, it wasn't a pawn). By refusing the trade, but then buying the item for fifty dollars more than the trade value, the pawn shop lost fifty bucks. There is no possible recovery of fees to make up the loss.
 
Bassbully, they ask outright if you want to pawn or sell, there is a difference. In this instance, the customer wanted to trade even up (sell), he had no intention of coming back for the bass.

When you pawn, an interest rate and time frame to pay back the "loan" is set up. When you fail to fulfill the obligation, the item in question becomes the property of the pawn shop. When you sell an item, they hand you the cash and the item becomes the property of the pawn shop then and there.

In this instance, the customer wanted to trade (sell) one item for another, even up, with no intention of retrieving the traded item (hence, it wasn't a pawn). By refusing the trade, but then buying the item for fifty dollars more than the trade value, the pawn shop lost fifty bucks. There is no possible recovery of fees to make up the loss.

I understand how its works but he did pawn the bass. If he returned to take it out they would recover that 50.00 in fee's plus markup money down the line. Spend a little to make more I guess .I can explain it better in person that I can type it..which I suk. I agree they should of not went $50 over but they will cover the loss and still make a profit...that's my point. No pawn shop I have delt with does trades..wonder why?
 
I understand how its works but he did pawn the bass. If he returned to take it out they would recover that 50.00 in fee's plus markup money down the line. Spend a little to make more I guess .I can explain it better in person that I can type it..which I suk. I agree they should of not went $50 over but they will cover the loss and still make a profit...that's my point. No pawn shop I have delt with does trades..wonder why?

Dude,

He didn't pawn the bass he sold the bass to the pawn shop for $250! He won't be returning to pick it up!

Why is this so difficult to understand?
 
This comes from a reliable friend who does a lot of dealings with the local pawn shop. He saw an item he wanted that they had priced at $200. Asked the guy if they would do an even trade for an extra bass he had lying around. Pawn guy said no, he just couldn't do an even trade. So my friend looks around for a while and the pawn guy helps some other customers. Finally my buddy approaches him again and asks how much he could get for the bass on pawn. The pawn guy looks it over and offers him $250. My buddy takes the deal and then promptly buys the $200 item he originally wanted on an even trade and walks out the door with $50. He told me that as soon as he headed for the original $200 item the pawn guy shook his head and looked humiliated at his poor skills.

Re-read this post...try again.
 
Yes! But he's not interested in coming back for the bass! Therefore he will never pay the $250 plus interest/fees!

The bottom line,the pawn shop lost $50 that may or may not be recovered!
AHHH................... Did Pawn...Right????

And as I said a few times the shop owner took the gamble. By law he has to keep that bass in pawn untill the time expires on that item. He isnt in the buisness of guessing if someone is coming back. What if they guy had the other bass he bought taken or it broke, maybe he changes his mind and wants to pay w/fee's to get it out out pawn? Its a bigger issue on the shops end than a $50.00 bill..trust me. The owner seen a profit and always will recover a loss. He might of gave some crackhead $10.00 for that bass he sold for $200.00. Happens all the time in may area.
 
You know, I have never, ever seen a good deal on a piece of music gear at a pawn shop. Not once - and I've been sticking my nose in pawn shops for a long time. I keep reading about dudes finding real scores, but not I ...

Pre-internet I used to find some occasional music gear or tools for good deals.

Now that they can look everything up on the 'net? No deals at pawnshops anymore.
 
My family has our annual reunion at Thanksgiving every year, rotating between cities. My son and I have a long-standing tradition of trolling pawn shops on the Friday after Thanksgiving.

We were in Houston this year, so we went out searching for whatever. We came across a pawn shop that had two cymbals in a bundle for $110 - a mint A. Zildjian 18" medium crash and some piece-of-crap 20" ride. My son only wanted the Zildjian. The conversation went like this:

Son: "How much for just this one?"
Pawn: "I can't break the set."

So we leave and go check out some more shops. Since this store was right down the street from our hotel, we decide to go back and see if anything has changed.

Son: "Sure you can't break these up?"
Pawn: "Can't do it - it's a set."
Me: "If we buy them both, how much will you give me for this one?"
Pawn: "$60."
Me: "Deal."

We walk out of there with the Zildjian for $50 - and we were prepared to cough up the $110 and throw the other one away if necessary.

Other deal: Found an American Standard Strat in a pawn one day. I don't remember what it was stickered for. I offered them $375 - they countered with $400 "out-the-door". $375 x 8.5% tax is $405.93 - so their counter was less than what I would have paid had they taken what I offered. The best part? As we're getting in the car, I looked at the tag and noticed it said CASE on it. We go back in and ask if there's a case - they go in the back and come out with a mint condition molded Fender case.
 
BassBully...
They will give you more for a "pawn" than a sale or trade cause that is basically a loan with the gear as collateral. He never intended to come back for the bass and originally was willing to part with it for $200 (the price of the other gear he was wanting). The poor dealing on the part of the pawn dude really has nothing to doo with how much he paid for the gear he sold or how much he plans to sell my friend's bass for at a later date. The point is my friend walked away with the gear AND $50 bucks when he was originally trying to only walk out with the gear (after trade). Like I said if you ever open a pawn shop let me know.
 
BassBully...
They will give you more for a "pawn" than a sale or trade cause that is basically a loan with the gear as collateral. He never intended to come back for the bass and originally was willing to part with it for $200 (the price of the other gear he was wanting). The poor dealing on the part of the pawn dude really has nothing to doo with how much he paid for the gear he sold or how much he plans to sell my friend's bass for at a later date. The point is my friend walked away with the gear AND $50 bucks when he was originally trying to only walk out with the gear (after trade). Like I said if you ever open a pawn shop let me know.

It does matter ..neverless. I think this rant has ran its course.
 
My pawn story:

Two crackheads break into my house last sept. and steal my American Jazz V which I bought new in 98 and my Ibanez ATK which I bought new in 96 along with some of the lady's jewlery. (They actually brought meat to feed my dogs) Anyway, I called and looked around the pawn shops around town to no avail. After a week of having NO bass i walk into the pawn shop by my work and they have the same model and year ATK as mine but in a natural wood color...great condition. Crazy! Shoot I thought, might as well. I talk them down 50$ bucks on the thing and get it for a great deal.

A week later the local police call me up and say they think they may have found my jazz bass at a local pawn. It had a new (and different looking) tuner and a small dent that let me positivly ID it. Of course the tosser gave the shop his ID and the police tracked him down and arrested him. He then proceeded to rat out his partna'. Police got a warrant, went to his house, and boom...original ATK! So now I have both my originals and another ATK to boot.

The story goes on......I go to the pawn that bought the jazz and ask them about the bass...the lady replies "Yeah those 2 guys were all f-----d up on drugs or something. We knew that fender had to be stolen so we only gave them 50 BUCKS! WHa???? The pwan was selling it for four hundred. I didn't even say anything....... But I did notice an Ampeg b2re head they had for 220. Talked them down to 175 (new 550) ......went to the pawn a mile away and scored a Hartke XL cab for 100$ in mint!

In the end I got a good sounding rig for 300$ and I now have 2 ATKs...(One of which will be up for trade here soon for a passive jazz bass!!...keep your eyes peeled!)

Moral of the story?
1) Get an alarm
2) Make sure you have the serial number and your name somewhere on your axe
3) You can still get steals at the pawn
4) Police have a tough job and they should be respected
 
That right there tells me that they knew they were buying hot property which would get the business shut down, and the owners charged with felonies, around here.

I disagree- they're actually doing a service by buying stolen goods because they have to report all of their transactions electronically to law enforcement. It passively cross references police reports nationwide, and leaves a database that LEO's can search through retroactively. Your best bet at retrieving your stolen instrument in this day and age is if somebody is brazen enough to sell it to a pawn shop, and your best bet at having the culprit punished is if they were dumb enough to do it in their own name.

I am very good friends with the manager of a local shop and am often consulted on music gear (perhaps because I am also a very good customer of said shop :P ) I get a lot of "what would you pay for x_item?" phone calls when there's something they can't find sold on eBay, and every now and then when one of those items defaults to the shop I'll get another call asking if I want it. A couple of the seemingly to-good-to-be-true finds that came my way- a Moog device I was already shopping for, serial #0001, an array of drum microphones formerly (and quite verifiably) owned by Mickey Hart, and all sorts of miscellaneous music gear for a good 25% under what one would spend on eBay- lots of easy gambles on weird pedals and the like. The thing to do is check in frequently, they're in the business of pricing stuff to move so the good deals don't generally sit on the shelf waiting to get noticed... especially nowadays where anyone with a smartphone can do a quick lookup to see what's worth what!
 
1998 in high school I scored-
1970's Ampeg V4 4x12 $60. Used it for guitar for a little bit. But I left it at my Mom's house. I come home one weekend to find the speakers out and the cab sitting in the back of my brothers Blazer with 4 crappy walmart subwoofers in it. Now i only have two speakers left. Time for a resto!

1998 I picked an unknown tube amp in a homemade nice wooden case for $50. I get it home and do a little research, turns out it a Peavey classic 50. The original owner took it out of the combo and stuck it in a case. Sounds great and I still have it today.

2011 I picked up a Lake Placid Blue SX jazz with the old fish hook headstock, strap, cable and a Korg tuner for $80.