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Best bass wah????

#21
BawanaRik said:
Since there are thousands of bassists here on TB let me make a suggestion. It seem like the Moog Low Pass Filter might be riged to perform wah duties using the EP-2 expression pedal.

Has anyone done that and would they be willing to write about the experience. The Murf might be a candidate for wah-hood also. The Moog pedals may be pricey but if you can get more than one function out of them, or any other pedal, the bang for the buck ration goes up.

I look forward to hearing from someone who has tried this.
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It definitely works, as does using the Xerograph as a wah. One thing to keep in mind is that both of those are low pass filters and most wahs are bandpass filters, with the EBS (and a few others) being exceptions. It's a somewhat different tone and not quite as good as a dedicated wah.

That said, I use my Xerograph (in 2 pole mode, fairly high resonance, frequency set around 2 o'clock with some blend) as my only wah and I think it's a killer extra feature for what is already an amazing pedal.

necropain said:
weeping demon is the best i have ever heard
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I had a Weeping Demon for a while. Definitely a very versatile wah with lots of parameters to tweak.
 
#22
Ive had 3 different wahs, the chiwahwah, 105q, and amt wh-1b. I did a full write up comparing the amt to the other two if you want to check it out. Its definitely the wettest out of the 3, has no tone loss in bypass, doesnt sound like theres a blanket over your cab like with the chiwahwah. Not to mention the form factor is awesome, fit great on my mini, regret selling it now. Otherwise Id suggest a wilson if you want to dive right in, I cant comment on it from experience but its the next one Id like to try. Delta used to own the subwah and would recommend it a lot before, never had the chance to try one out but its another to look into.
 
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#23
TussinBot. said:
Ive had 3 different wahs, the chiwahwah, 105q, and amt wh-1b. I did a full write up comparing the amt to the other two if you want to check it out. Its definitely the wettest out of the 3, has no tone loss in bypass, doesnt sound like theres a blanket over your cab like with the chiwahwah. Not to mention the form factor is awesome, fit great on my mini, regret selling it now. Otherwise Id suggest a wilson if you want to dive right in, I cant comment on it from experience but its the next one Id like to try. Delta used to own the subwah and would recommend it a lot before, never had the chance to try one out but its another to look into.
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I will def check out the amt. So you're saying, in your exp, the chi wha wha sounds "blanketed"?? That was the one I was seriously considering especially due to its size. But if the amt sounds and "acts" better, I'd look into this seriously more.
 
#24
To me the chiwahwah sounded blanketed when I had it. It didnt cut through very well IMO, and didnt have any balls, not much bass to it. It also had a noticeable tonesuck in bypass, not as bad as the 105q though. The AMT doesn't have the tonesuck in bypass, but you will need to click it on. There is a slight pop when you click it on (like a lot of True bypass pedals), but in a band context it isnt noticeable, especially since youre already at the highest part of the sweep. It is springless so that will take some getting used to as well, but I ended up liking it being springless. You could leave it all the way rolled back for a fattttt round bass sound. The filter isnt sweepable, but the ranges they picked are pretty good. The highest range i found unusable, too much treble, but the other two were good.

I will note that originally when I got the amt the sweep felt a little un natural due to the shorter throw range than a normal wah, but once you learn how sensitive it is moving across the midrange, and adjust the treadle speed (via the set screw on the side) to your liking, its great. Also there is no volume control, but AMT did a great job normalizing volume.

Another downside, they dont come up used and arent really stocked in stores, so you might have to drop the coin to buy one new and not have the chance to test it first. Im sure you could sell it if you didnt like it without much of a loss though.
 
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#25
TussinBot. said:
To me the chiwahwah sounded blanketed when I had it. It didnt cut through very well IMO, and didnt have any balls, not much bass to it. It also had a noticeable tonesuck in bypass, not as bad as the 105q though. The AMT doesn't have the tonesuck in bypass, but you will need to click it on. There is a slight pop when you click it on (like a lot of True bypass pedals), but in a band context it isnt noticeable, especially since youre already at the highest part of the sweep. It is springless so that will take some getting used to as well, but I ended up liking it being springless. You could leave it all the way rolled back for a fattttt round bass sound. The filter isnt sweepable, but the ranges they picked are pretty good. The highest range i found unusable, too much treble, but the other two were good.

I will note that originally when I got the amt the sweep felt a little un natural due to the shorter throw range than a normal wah, but once you learn how sensitive it is moving across the midrange, and adjust the treadle speed (via the set screw on the side) to your liking, its great. Also there is no volume control, but AMT did a great job normalizing volume.

Another downside, they dont come up used and arent really stocked in stores, so you might have to drop the coin to buy one new and not have the chance to test it first. Im sure you could sell it if you didnt like it without much of a loss though.
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Thanks so much for the info bot. I've been wanting a full on description of all the info you've provided. I know it's all relative but it helped immensely none the less. I was thinking the 105q was gonna be it, or the chi but I need a wah that doesn't effect my tone and signal that drastically. The AMT sounds like its the one I'm looking for.
 
#26
Still vouching for the G-Lab wah, but,.....I just received my Source Audio expression pedal today, hooked it up to the BEF Pro, and it does SEVERAL great wah tones! Easily the most flexible wah I used, and I've been through quite a few. Variable Q, variable wet dry, variable pretty much anything else you can think of.The combo of the two is pretty steep as far as price. I have about $250 tied up in it, but when you add the fact that you have a killer filter pedal, lfo, and all the cool tricks the BEF does by itself, it's worth the investment, IMHO. Definitely worth considering if your budget can handle it.
 
#28
Moog Low Pass Filter (MF-101). Righteous.

The Analog Filter will let your tone/bass pass though. My buddy plugged his Fender Jazz in, sounded like a Fender Jazz, just with all the extra goodies. I plug my Thumb pro-series in, sounds like a thumb.

Entirely worth the money.
 
#29
Though it doesn't seemed to be a well loved pedal, I love my Bootzilla wah. I A/B'd it with a 105q for awhile and ended up keeping the Bootzilla. I found that it was much more interesting sounding in the low range. The range seems to go much lower in the lowest setting.
 
#31
I can vouch for the AMT (as I have Tussinbot.'s on my board currently).

Switching on requires much less pressure than the non-automatic Dunlop wah pedals. The pop is barely noticeable.

The size of the pedal, along with it being on a slanted board, make for some odd mechanics towards the heel-down position, but I think I'm getting the hang of it.

Beyond that, thaere's nothing I can say that 'bot. hasn't already.
 
#35
TussinBot. said:
This is getting interesting now. Number of wahs being posted that I havent looked into before. I know a lot of people love Mission for expression pedals, didnt know they had theyre hand in other markets.
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That's exactly what I was thinkin bot, I had no idea there were this many, supposed, good wahs floating around out there. Quite honestly, since I've had this obsession with finding the right dist/od pedal for me, I had no idea there was that many of these either!! It's great fun learning all this stuff but makes me also remember how broke I am.
 
#37
+1 Weeping Demon. Thanks for the tip, otherwise I probably would have ended up with a Bass Cry Baby -- which is still a lovely wah except for the tone suck in bypass. The Weeping Demon sure has a lot of configurability, which is great when you're sharing it with friends who play other instruments.
 
#38
i got me a Wilson colorsound wah. you can set it to different frequencies, so it works amazing for both bass and guitar.

soundwise, it has everything i ever wanted from a wah - really subtle, to really crazy vomit sounding stuff. its also kinda cool, cause i got it used and the serial number says 0001 ... it must have been a custom job.

hardware wise, i wish it was easier to step on cause engaging it requires force and sometimes the switch gets stuck, so i end up with no sound - plus its heavy, like all old school wahs
 
#39
domdec314 said:
Though it doesn't seemed to be a well loved pedal, I love my Bootzilla wah. I A/B'd it with a 105q for awhile and ended up keeping the Bootzilla. I found that it was much more interesting sounding in the low range. The range seems to go much lower in the lowest setting.
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i also love the bootzilla, i would have kept it if it lasted forever, but those things really have quality issues. i sold mine such a long time ago, i dont remember what was wrong with it, but it was a quality issue i saw coming. i sold it before it broke lol

which is kinda cool cause it eventually led me to Wilson Wah. its much better than the bootzilla (a bit lighter too).

the only downside i see in wilson wah's is the price. to be honest, while i love wah pedals and will never be without it, i just dont think i would spend that much money on a wah...

used prices are cool though
 

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