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Best cable for the money?

#82
it's not the same cable.. the GeorgeLs cables are closer to what the original BL cables were.. but they are different also..

i have the current BL cables.. they are great.. but they are really intended for cabling racks/pedal boards IMO.. not as instrument cable.. the outer jacket on the cable is very thin and easily cut.. and it's very thin cabling.. the ends are great, i wish they were cheaper..

they are very transparent sounding cables..
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Thanks for that, I was thinking about ordering some BL cable and connectors.

Which do you prefer, the .225" cables or the .155" cables?

Believe that the thinner ones get the great reviews but feel uneasy about something that's just slightly bigger than 1/8"; unless the thicker ones are real stiff or don't sound as transparent.
 
#83
Jim C said:
Thanks for that, I was thinking about ordering some BL cable and connectors.

Which do you prefer, the .225" cables or the .155" cables?

Believe that the thinner ones get the great reviews but feel uneasy about something that's just slightly bigger than 1/8"; unless the thicker ones are real stiff or don't sound as transparent.
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i bought the kit, which has the .155" cabling and 10 ends.. it's very thin.. i wouldn't use it for instrument cable, unless i was recording with it.. not on stage.. but to wire a rack or a pedal board, sure.. they are really transparent.. also, when you make your cable.. it's best to place the end on, tighten the lock screw down just hard enough to make an indention on the outer jacket.. remove the end, and use a razor to cut the jacketing away from that area.. then reinstall the end, and tighten.. but don't crush the cable.. the lock screw's face should be flush with the side of the jack.. and that's it..

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#84
Sorry, what I meant was which George L cable do you prefer; the .225 or .155?
Am thinking your photo is of the BL product.
Appreciate all the help; that stuff is tiny; can't imagine it would be happy getting yanked on stage.
 
#88
Bill Lawrence cables have high tensile strength and can take a lot of abuse. I have seven friends who have used them without problem for the last couple years. The plugs are pretty secure too - you can pull a cable out of an amplifier from a good length away, although I wouldn't risk this with my GB ShuttleMAX 12 :D
 
#89
raymondl3 said:
Really? Like what?
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google it. everything from human / employee rights issues to suing any company that uses the name "Monster" no matter what the industry used in or threatening 'intellectual property infringement' lawsuits without any real basis to using slightly oversized jacks that stretch amp/instrument jacks (I was told this by a couple tech... never witnessed it or measured it myself).
 
#90
James Hart said:
google it. everything from human / employee rights issues to suing any company that uses the name "Monster" no matter what the industry used in or threatening 'intellectual property infringement' lawsuits without any real basis to using slightly oversized jacks that stretch amp/instrument jacks (I was told this by a couple tech... never witnessed it or measured it myself).
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I won't use them either. Deceptive marketing, how they sue anyone who wants to use the word monster in any way even if they're so far away from anything having anything to do with audio...suing people in audio who have completely valid designs that don't infringe on either patent or trademark just to get them out of the business...the list goes on and on.

Of course, its scary that their products may damage your other gear, which is the hugest big red-light to me.
 
#92
BurningSkies said:
I won't use them either. Deceptive marketing, how they sue anyone who wants to use the word monster in any way even if they're so far away from anything having anything to do with audio...suing people in audio who have completely valid designs that don't infringe on either patent or trademark just to get them out of the business...the list goes on and on.

Of course, its scary that their products may damage your other gear, which is the hugest big red-light to me.
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I recently had to replace an input jack on an amp which I am fairly certain was caused by an oversized monster plug.

Whom ever suggested Redco...thank you! That is a VERY COOL site. I had read about the virtues of Canare Cable but could never find it anywhere. Does anyone have experience with the Neutrik "silent" plugs? They are twice the cost of a standard plug so I just want to justify paying the extra cost if they are decent.
 
#93
Whirlwind and Planet Wave. I have a Whirlwind that I've used since 1978. It still works great; its the curly kind and I use it when I feel old school. However, I use the Planet Wave for my everyday cable. I also just got a new Whirlwind Leader Elite cloth cable that looks like a toaster cord... just cause I like my 30 year old cable so much.
 
#94
Okay, I know this has been discussed, but I don't understand the science behind it. I have some Monster bass cables (gifts from loving children), some Bayou cables I bought from Butch, and some sturdy old Road Hogs (mementos of a mis-spent youth).

I read above that I will lose treble with the Monster Cables...is this so even on short runs of 21'? Is it noticeable to those with normal hearing?

I have to admit there is a little bit of a psychological advantage when using a Monster cable...namely that I don't worry about it. If it gets caught in a bind, or the guitarist steps all over it or drops the mic stand on it, I know that if it is damaged I can have it replaced. This may sound silly, but that peace of mind has been worth something to me. Plus, they stay plugged in really well.

I love Butch's cables the best, but I tend to want to baby them, protect them from harm. I only bust them out for special occasions.

So, anyway, how much am I losing here? American Deluxe Active bass into an SVT-3 Pro, playing either flats or tapewounds. My hearing is not keen enough to tell the difference.
 
#95
scootron said:
Okay, I know this has been discussed, but I don't understand the science behind it. I have some Monster bass cables (gifts from loving children), some Bayou cables I bought from Butch, and some sturdy old Road Hogs (mementos of a mis-spent youth).

I read above that I will lose treble with the Monster Cables...is this so even on short runs of 21'? Is it noticeable to those with normal hearing?

I have to admit there is a little bit of a psychological advantage when using a Monster cable...namely that I don't worry about it. If it gets caught in a bind, or the guitarist steps all over it or drops the mic stand on it, I know that if it is damaged I can have it replaced. This may sound silly, but that peace of mind has been worth something to me. Plus, they stay plugged in really well.

I love Butch's cables the best, but I tend to want to baby them, protect them from harm. I only bust them out for special occasions.

So, anyway, how much am I losing here? American Deluxe Active bass into an SVT-3 Pro, playing either flats or tapewounds. My hearing is not keen enough to tell the difference.
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I feel that if you are happy with your tone then you are golden. That's the ultimate goal. People talk about losing high frequencies with a certain cable then they turn the tweeter off in their cabinet.
 
#97
Jerry J said:
Whom ever suggested Redco...thank you! That is a VERY COOL site. I had read about the virtues of Canare Cable but could never find it anywhere. Does anyone have experience with the Neutrik "silent" plugs? They are twice the cost of a standard plug so I just want to justify paying the extra cost if they are decent.
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all my cables from http://www.greatcables.us (procables n sound) are made from Canare Cable. I tend to spec the standard G&H connectors, but they offer the 'silent' jacks too. They have a small switch that turns off the tip when removed from a jack. Here is some more info http://procablesnsound.com/items/connectors/np2rx-au-silent-detail.htm

FYI: they have a discount code for supporting TB members.
 
#98
The only cables I have NOT had problem with have come from Bayou Cables. Everything else ( including Monster- what a joke!) has left me wanting. Instrument cables, TRS interconnects, speaker cables, only the best for reliability, which is what I want EVERY time from a cable.
 
#99
wideload said:
The only cables I have NOT had problem with have come from Bayou Cables. Everything else ( including Monster- what a joke!) has left me wanting. Instrument cables, TRS interconnects, speaker cables, only the best for reliability, which is what I want EVERY time from a cable.
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I have a cable from Bayou and would love to order more, but they take soooooo long to get. I could learn how to make them myself and start my own business in the same time it takes to get one cable.
 
#100
I had some Fender ToneMaster cable that I hated. They coil big time. I can leave the things stretched straight out across the room and come back later to find them coiled. A friend recommended Planet Waves. So far they seem to work fine, which to me means no excessive coiling :-)

Maybe I'll try the George-L's next time I'm in the market. Does everyone use the .155 or the .255 ?

THANKS
 

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