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Best pedal for a basic square wave?

What kind of wave form is in the Qtron? I love that sound minus the quack. I just want more of it.

It doesn't have any waveform per se, it is a resonant filter. So when the filter is driven into resonance it does become an oscillator, but (a) the wave shape is arbitrary, and (b) it is only resonant arount one frequency, so there will be one note where it is strongest, and it will get weaker, the farther you go from that frequency. In order to make it follow the notes you play, you'd need some more complex synth circuitry, which is essentially how you end up with the Moog Freqbox. :)
 
Getting back to the square wave quest, today I took a bit of time from work (it is the weekend, you know), and I put a few pedals through their paces.

I did get to try both XO and '90s reissue Micro Synthesizers and Bass Micro Synthesizers from Electro-Harmonix. The older ones do have longer sustain. I didn't open the new ones, but I did use a Maxon CP9Pro+ compressor which was dimed on compression, and it cut out after 10 seconds. The reissues lasted for quite a bit longer.

I did try them with both active and passive pickups, but both with and without compression, there appeared to be no way to really keep the resonance in check outside of a small window. I don't want to have to try so hard for a particular sound, so all four of the boxes wound up, as far as I'm concerned, on the Shelf of Failure.

I also tried a variety of fuzz and overdrive pedals. The biggest happy surprise and crushing disappointment turned out to be the same pedal, the Ibanez PD7 Phat Head Bass Overdrive. The OD setting was pretty square, and sounded completely hollow running with a Boss CE-5 chorus. Feeding it with the Maxon felt completely square synth. Sadly, the pedal was extremely noisy when there was no signal. It might be great with a noise gate, but I'd rather look for a square wave which is quiet, instead of having to lengthen my signal chain.

The other pedal which was extremely nice for square wave fuzz, but disappointing, was the Behringer UF400 Ultimate Fuzz pedal. It sounds great with fuzz dimed and before chorus... but it has a monster high-pitched whine to it. I don't know which Boss pedal this is based on, but I think I want to try it and see if the situation is a bit quieter. If the Behringer hadn't had a whine to it, I'd have bought it on the spot. Could there be variations between them, and would patience have been rewarded? Maybe, and I might try that later this week... but there's no way I'm going to search the Internet for the best price and get stuck with a unit with that noise.

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One pedal which (for whatever reason, marketing hype or whatever) gets touted for square wave goodness is the Zvex Mastotron. Perhaps this is true for some particular set-up, but I've not managed to get a square wave out of it. I'm a huge fan of the Mastotron, and it does sound synthy, but considering I was specifically searching for "square wave pedal" on Google, and kept running across the Mastotron, I think it's worth noting in at least one place that it falls short in the "square" department.

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So far, the only pedals I've personally tested, and which have managed to do a decent square wave without noise have been the SYB-3, SYB-5 (and its clone, the Behringer BSY600) and the Pigtronix Mothership. All of them are triggered oscillators, instead of circuits which clip off a sine wave, like the Behringer UF400 and Ibanez PD7 already noted. It makes sense that an actual oscillator would sound better, and with less extraneous noise, than a clipping circuit.

There is one clipping fuzz which seems to sound great in every sound sample I've run across, so I've decided to pick up a Chunk Systems Brown Dog gated bass fuzz pedal. It's also possible that there's some square-clipping fuzz I haven't tried yet (like the Boss version of the UF400) which will do what I'm looking for on the cheap. I'm starting to doubt it, though.

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Really, having been trying all these pedals out just makes me wish the Markbass Super Synth did square waves. *sigh* It already tracks so well, and square would have made it that much more perfect....

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Regarding everything I just wrote, keep in mind that these are my own experiences, running with my own instruments and signal chain. Your experience may vary, but hopefully someone will find these observations at least mildly helpful.
 
Oh! a bit more!

I had been hoping to try out two more pedals, based on what I've found on the Internet, but didn't find them in real life. I'll not recommend them since I have no real hands-on clue about how they sound, but the clips I've found appear to support their ability to do square wave.

MXR M-181 Bass Blowtorch
Roger Mayer Stone Rocket Fuzz/Stone-X Fuzz

They both sound extremely square. I've also seen a video where someone ran a signal through the Mayer Stone Fuzz with an oscilloscope hooked up, and the output was perfectly square.

Has anyone gotten to try either of those (the two Mayer boxes are the same circuit, just different housings) and formed an opinion?
 
"Shelf of Failure" lol.

Did the Behringer end up in the Cupboard of Obsolescence?

Actually, the Shelf of Failure is just across from the Closet of Obsolescence. Items sometimes emerge from the Closet and gain new life in surprising ways.

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I've been considering the Wave Machine for a bit. Ultimately I spent more for a used Chunk Systems Brown Dog, which I eagerly await. However, the Wave Machine is extremely small, and if it indeed does what it claims, and sounds good with my set-up besides, it could be the heart of a tiny synth pedal board, along with a cheap Digitech Digiverb and CF-7 Chorus Factory, and the POG2 and Groove Regulator.

But that's ultimately for the Non-MIDI Synthesis thread. Sorry for the derail!

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I'm going to see if any Guitar Centers nearby have the Blowtorch. I failed at one location yesterday, but the samples I've heard have sounded really good. I'm going to wait until the Brown Dog arrives, though, to try them side by side. I suspect the Dog will beat out the Blowtorch, but if the Blowtorch comes close for less money, it would be good to know, if only to post on this thread for those looking for the information.

Besides, come on! I'm no snob! I tried a Behringer! *laugh*
 
yes. I own one. It kills. I run the Bleeding alaiser through an envelope and/or a octaver and it gives amazing synth tones. It sound straight up moogy, low notes and high notes track nicely. There are so many synth pedals etc, but this gives you just the wave form, so you can add everything else in and really hone in on your tone. I think this is a smart way to go (get the wave form you want, then adding the color).
Cheers....oh and its about $150.00 Invalid Link Removed
 
I suspect the Dog will beat out the Blowtorch...

It will not. Only if you like a high mid hissy midrange or you don't ever use mid horns or tweeters. The Blowtorch has so much tone shaping and the BD has...NONE. Just intensity...which I never had above 10 o'clock else it would be Way too hissy.
An overdrive with mellowed high end Into the Blowtorch makes a very nice square wave. Torch supplies the buzz. Adding max mids (choice of 3) and low end to the BT distortion really helps. With some amps the lowest mid gives a great punch, but since I use a VT, the middle position is the most useful.
The BD does make a nice roar by itself, but I'm selling mine. Maybe 5 years ago it was the s*it. Pretty good resale value what with the ridiculous retail price point...