lelandcrooks
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Takes about 3 GC25's to equal a GC28. Even then it's not quite the same. 28's can cross as low as 80hz.
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Big E Speakers Part 4 - Quadraphenia
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Stephen Regier
Commercial User
- Apr 11, 2014
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- Co-Inventer and Co-Owner of Big E Loudspeakers Technology
The mains in this photo from the Landon Arena in Topeka, KS are GC-28s the side fills are GC-25s. The mains subs are RachE - 18s and the side fill subs are RachE - 15s. Now back to your regularly scheduled bass instrument loudspeaker thread.
lelandcrooks
Commercial User
Concur.
Custom racked six pack of GC28's per side.
I almost reached up to check whether I had my Etymotic plugs in when I saw that.
Custom racked six pack of GC28's per side.
I almost reached up to check whether I had my Etymotic plugs in when I saw that.
Stephen Regier
Commercial User
- Apr 11, 2014
- 78
- 131
- Disclosures
- Co-Inventer and Co-Owner of Big E Loudspeakers Technology
No, this was a rig for a national touring act/s playing in a10,000 seat venue. They thought we didn't bring enough until we powered 'em up.
Note: To much MVW is a bad thing. Putting to many or too large a loudspeaker/s in a venue is a bad thing in our world. There will be performance issues. Subsequently we do not just pile up gear. It must be sized for the venue. This goes for arenas and living rooms alike. That is why Mike is very diligent in coaching each buyer of an MAS MVW Loudspeaker to get the correct sized unit for their needs.
Yeah---not just MVW cabs. ALL gear. Whether speakers or electronics---I see two big mistakes People will find a cab that's maximum volume before fartout is right where they want to push it all the time. Or amp.You lose all headroom and are pushing the gear to a place where it sounds ok---but lots of distortion is present. Not fuzztone or fartout distortion, bur distortion that diminishes the quality of sound.
The other mistake is someone that wants to have the biggest, loudest, coolest rig. ALL speakers have "sweet spot" where they sound their best. It can be pretty wide. I feel that the MVW cabs do have a decent and wide "sweet spot'.But it's like using an SVT810---they start to come alive when you hit a certain volume If you play a Fridge at B15 volume--it'll sound ok---but it won't really open up until you hit a certain volume.
If someone wants ---let's say--a MAS112---if they're mainly using it at home---I'd recommend a MAS112LPT. It doesn't go quite as loud as the other 112's (surprisingly close, though) but it "opens up" sooner.
With a PA rig, if you use too many cabs and aren't getting them going a bit---they can sound lifeless by comparison to a properly sized rig. Again, this applies to other speakers as well.
Too much can be too much.
BTW---just popped for a Kevin Shaw bass amp. Best tube bass amp on the planet IMO. I can't afford it---but it really shows what my cabs can do with tubes.
The other mistake is someone that wants to have the biggest, loudest, coolest rig. ALL speakers have "sweet spot" where they sound their best. It can be pretty wide. I feel that the MVW cabs do have a decent and wide "sweet spot'.But it's like using an SVT810---they start to come alive when you hit a certain volume If you play a Fridge at B15 volume--it'll sound ok---but it won't really open up until you hit a certain volume.
If someone wants ---let's say--a MAS112---if they're mainly using it at home---I'd recommend a MAS112LPT. It doesn't go quite as loud as the other 112's (surprisingly close, though) but it "opens up" sooner.
With a PA rig, if you use too many cabs and aren't getting them going a bit---they can sound lifeless by comparison to a properly sized rig. Again, this applies to other speakers as well.
Too much can be too much.
BTW---just popped for a Kevin Shaw bass amp. Best tube bass amp on the planet IMO. I can't afford it---but it really shows what my cabs can do with tubes.
That Shaw SOS preamp looks very interesting, too!
Did you get a chance to check that out as well?
I sold some bass gear late last year, including the first production MA109, when I was facing some serious cervical fusion surgery and the bills that came shortly after. I kept telling myself that if I was able to start playing again, I could get by with an old 1x12, but the MVW vortexitudeness has ruined my tolerance for other speakers. I'm starting to play again and my wonderful wife finally convinced me that life is too short for bad tone, so this weekend I sent Mike the payment for a replacement MA109.
Now I just have to wait my turn in the queue.
I guess once you go vortex, you can't go back.
Now I just have to wait my turn in the queue.
I guess once you go vortex, you can't go back.
Hang in there man. My band was on hold while the guitar player got his surgery done and his left fretting hand got feeling and strength back. Hard to choose another cab after owning these. Of course I would play some other ones if circumstances required, but they are the best this hack has ever experienced. Wishing you health and happiness!
I sold some bass gear late last year, including the first production MA109, when I was facing some serious cervical fusion surgery and the bills that came shortly after. I kept telling myself that if I was able to start playing again, I could get by with an old 1x12, but the MVW vortexitudeness has ruined my tolerance for other speakers. I'm starting to play again and my wonderful wife finally convinced me that life is too short for bad tone, so this weekend I sent Mike the payment for a replacement MA109.
Now I just have to wait my turn in the queue.
I guess once you go vortex, you can't go back.
I'm happy to 'hear' that you are healed!
Thanks! I'm a lot better, but still have a month of physical therapy and a good 6 months of bone fusing before I'll really be in solid shape. But, I'm off all the pain meds and the cervical collar, I can exercise again and most importantly, I can play again and that's a significant morale booster. I got myself a light weight short scale bass (Guild Starfire reissue) and that helps a lot too. Getting another MA109 will be the icing on the cake.I'm happy to 'hear' that you are healed!
You be careful, you could put an ear (or two) out with that thing! Did I sound like your mom?
Mike's cabs are mind and ear-boggling. I am pleasantly amazed every time I plug in to make some joyful noise.
After conferring with Mike about low power tube amps and the efficiency of various speakers I'm making the obvious choice and stepping up to a 112LPT instead of the 109. I'll probably never drive it to anywhere near it's limits, but he says it sounds good at low volume as well and that's good enough for me. I just gotta say that I'm pleased and impressed that Mike gives a play-at-home hack like me the same time, patience and great service that he gives to experienced players like the rest of you guys. In my experience not many builders of high end gear do that.
