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Big E Speakers pt 3

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#481
lelandcrooks said:
I have done this. Long ago with the original 46 design for PA. Which is currently on hiatus pending further development. I compared it to 2 different very well designed horn loaded cabs, approximately the same physical size, a 10 and a 12.
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That's still not a 4x6 in different enclosure types

lelandcrooks said:
The horn loaded cabs were louder with less power. But at a certain point the MVW cab caught up and passed them by in total output.
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To me this is not clear, when did the MVW catch up? with more power?

The point I want to make is that when you compare different cab types with the same driver you can (at least) see if the load on the driver changes dramatically with the MVW cab. You should see e.g. that the excursion drops in the working range compared to the other enclosures. If so, this could explain a few things.
 
#482
It caught up as I added power. Been over a year ago, so don't hold me to it, but IIRC when it reached about 30-40% of the rated power handling of the horns it was dead even.

You are correct, that would be a good test. I think Steve and Tom have done similar tests, at least with the subs.
 
#484
Another Firesign line that could apply:
"The future's already here, man."

When I made the first reference I didn't realize how apropos they could be. Ironically, as I'm writing this my dog is going nuts with a squeaky toy that sounds like a bunch of Bozos.
 
#485
and we are all Waiting for the Electrician, or Someone Like Him...
Another parallel, from Nick Danger, Third Eye - "and... How do I make my voice do this?"

we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
 
#487
Mark Sacchetti said:
Any news on the 46's performance with Duke's tweaked crossover?
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So far Duke's the only one who's heard it. To the best of my knowledge the cab is on a Fed Ex truck bouncing back to Illinois at the moment, but it doesn't have the crossover in it - I just provided Mike with a schematic, and he'll have to build his own and figure out how to shoehorn it into the cab. Okay not that the parts count is all that bad, but the insides of these cabs are pretty busy to begin with and the dominant consideration from stem to stern is fluid flow, which isn't an issue in most cabs aside from the port. So that complicates figuring out where to mount the crossover. In my home audio versions, I have a little base underneath the cabinet, several inches high, that houses the crossover.
 
#488
Duke,

Your posts in this thread have given me tons of respect for you as a person as well as the respect I already had for your speaker design and building skills.
 
#490
Duke's not posting and waiting for me to post but I trust his opinion. From what he says---the 46 is a very flat cab with a powerful low end. The previous 46's were a bit mid scooped This will be balanced with a cone type sound (as opposed to a horn---not that there's anything wrong with that--my Seinfeld reference for the day) with a bit of musical sizzle on top. There will be a "presence" switch which will give the option of more upper midrange sizzle if wanted.

Duke and I know each other's ears by now and when he describes something I can take it to the bank. (glad I can take something to the bank!)

So--and I'll know this week--Steve and Tom have found a way to "tune" various chambers and they want a final look at it--

Paper cone sound with the Ciare sizzle on top. Kicks like a mule with the lowest -3db point of all of my speakers. Improvement in low end to midrange note definition and separation---relatively flat profile with the ability to add some presence with a switch.
 
#492
So the wife totaled the car last week, thankfully she walked away with just bumps and bruises. Unfortunately between medical bills and deductibles/down payments we are out about 5 G's.

I am forced to liquidate some of my favorite things. If anyone in the Midwest has been thinking about a 210 flex, shoot me a PM.
 
#493
Oh dude---I'm so sorry!

I'm so glad she's ok---that's the important thing!

While I could certainly use the bread---next person that asks about one I'll send your way. And if you're in the position in the future I'll make something at the lowest price I can for you.

If you need something to play on I could send you one of my early cabs that are laying around.
 
#495
As I understand it, the Big E 46 measures 15.5" tall, 26" wide, and 13.5" deep. Will it work as intended if it is stood up on end? Tall and skinny would seem like a good option for certain situations.

M. M. :)
 
#496
3rdcurve said:
So the wife totaled the car last week, thankfully she walked away with just bumps and bruises. Unfortunately between medical bills and deductibles/down payments we are out about 5 G's.

I am forced to liquidate some of my favorite things. If anyone in the Midwest has been thinking about a 210 flex, shoot me a PM.
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Sorry to hear about the financial bump in the road (pun intended) but so glad that your wife was nearly unscathed. :cool: That last ice/snow storm spawned hundreds of accidents around here. The combination of extended periods of low temperatures and high prices for propane is wearing on me financially. If I had the liquidity, I'd help out, but the old reservoir is too low. :rollno:
 
#497
spiritbass said:
Sorry to hear about the financial bump in the road (pun intended) but so glad that your wife was nearly unscathed. :cool: That last ice/snow storm spawned hundreds of accidents around here. The combination of extended periods of low temperatures and high prices for propane is wearing on me financially. If I had the liquidity, I'd help out, but the old reservoir is too low. :rollno:
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Thanks for the kind words. Life throws us curve balls every once in a while. The good news is down the road Mike can build me another amazing cab, building a new wife may have proved very difficult.
 
#498
3rdcurve said:
Thanks for the kind words. Life throws us curve balls every once in a while. The good news is down the road Mike can build me another amazing cab, building a new wife may have proved very difficult.
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You've got your priorities 100% right.
I'm glad your lady is all right, the finances will sort themselves out down the road. Good luck with it all.
 
#499
So, a question about Big E's in general (and the Flex in particular).

Back in the late 80's I had a rear ported Goliath, and the key to that cab was to keep it away from the back wall by at least 6" or so.

Any similar things to be aware of with the MVW cabs?
 
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