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Big E Speakers pt 3

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I am really happy with my combination of amps. My modded Streamliner 900 is just super fat and warm, while the GK MB800 is crisp and punches like a MOFO!

Had some time to kill while waiting for the wife the other day so I spent some time noodling at Guitar Center. Every cab I played through reminded me of my first $75 behringer practice combo. This 210 flex has ruined me for other cabs just as much as my Muck has ruined me for other basses. I am spoiled, and loving every minute of it. Really the only thing I would like to try would be a Monique and/or JGR pre.

Putting the Flex in the bright setting really makes up for the subdued mids of the Streamliner. The GK sounds FANTASTIC in the dark setting.
 
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3rdcurve said:
I am really happy with my combination of amps. My modded Streamliner 900 is just super fat and warm, while the GK MB800 is crisp and punches like a MOFO!

Had some time to kill while waiting for the wife the other day so I spent some time noodling at Guitar Center. Every cab I played through reminded me of my first $75 behringer practice combo. This 210 flex has ruined me for other cabs just as much as my Muck has ruined me for other basses. I am spoiled, and loving every minute of it. Really the only thing I would like to try would be a Monique and/or JGR pre.

Putting the Flex in the bright setting really makes up for the subdued mids of the Streamliner. The GK sounds FANTASTIC in the dark setting.
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I'd love to get a 210 flex in my stable but have had trouble selling things to raise cash and make room for it. +2 for your amps though - I have an STM900 (with the V1 tube swap) and an MBFusion 800 which provide a nice set of choices for the reasons listed. These have ended up as my favorite reasonably priced complementary micros which have pretty good headroom. $1500 for the pair. IME if a cab sounds good with the STM900, it will also sound good with the MBF800 (not so much the other way around). But, the voicing options of the 210 flex lets you optimize it for either amp - very cool! One ergonomics question - how manageable is getting the flex 210 up and down a set of stairs by yourself?
 
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5StringPocket said:
I'd love to get a 210 flex in my stable but have had trouble selling things to raise cash and make room for it. +2 for your amps though - I have an STM900 (with the V1 tube swap) and an MBFusion 800 which provide a nice set of choices for the reasons listed. These have ended up as my favorite reasonably priced complementary micros which have pretty good headroom. $1500 for the pair. IME if a cab sounds good with the STM900, it will also sound good with the MBF800 (not so much the other way around). But, the voicing options of the 210 flex lets you optimize it for either amp - very cool! One ergonomics question - how manageable is getting the flex 210 up and down a set of stairs by yourself?
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Ergonomics are the down side. What makes it most difficult to maneuver is the width. At 26" wide it is the same as my old 810. Door ways are difficult. An entire flight of stairs with no help won't be fun. It does weigh 70-75lbs, but due to handle placement I find it feels easier to move than the 8x5.
 
#147
Stairs aren't fun with any 70#cab but I hear you as far as the width. Can't shrink it but I do have some ideas.
I carry it up the stairs with the side of the cab against me---left hand on the wheel and my right hand across the front and holding on to the port flare brace on the opposite side. Does that make sense?

Ok--taking it another step.

We're dealing with an odd cab anyway but here's what I was thinking---

What about mounting a 1" dowel between two of the port braces? 1" holes drilled in two of the flare braces near the front of the braces with a 1" dowel glued and mounted between them? Provides a very nice hand hold to carry the speaker up the stairs. And it's no big deal mounting another dog bone handle on the back---obviously off center. Near the wheel.

That way your left hand grips the dog bone and your right arm reaches across the front and maybe 18" up to grab that nice 1" hand hold.

The difficulty getting up stairs is not the weight---just the awkwardness. I know my idea is left-of-center---but so is everything about this cab!

Kringle was saying to me (essentially) " that's all well and good until you put a cover on"

The cover can be made with cutouts at these points as well as for the side handles. The drivers and aren't exposed and any cover manufacturer can make flaps with Velcro to cover these two areas when not in use.

I know that this sounds weird but when you stop to think about it---I think it would work nicely. The cab is held high enough to not knock your knees and really just sits pretty naturally.

I actually built one extra 210 that I don't have any commitments on ( it's supposed to be for me but you know how that works out!) that I have at my house. I'll do this (simple) mod and post pictures.
 
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#150
With all the configurations and iterations that have shown up since I started watching the Big E threads in March, I've lost track of what is currently available. I know the Flex 110 and 210 are the hot topic now, but would it be possible for someone to post a list of the various other models that can still be ordered?
I know it'd be a big undertaking, but someday it'd be interesting to see a Big E timeline showing the various models that have come, gone through some changes and then were superseded by newer models. Just a thought. Like you guys aren't busy enough already...
 
#152
3rdcurve said:
I am really happy with my combination of amps. My modded Streamliner 900 is just super fat and warm, while the GK MB800 is crisp and punches like a MOFO!

Had some time to kill while waiting for the wife the other day so I spent some time noodling at Guitar Center. Every cab I played through reminded me of my first $75 behringer practice combo. This 210 flex has ruined me for other cabs just as much as my Muck has ruined me for other basses. I am spoiled, and loving every minute of it. Really the only thing I would like to try would be a Monique and/or JGR pre.

Putting the Flex in the bright setting really makes up for the subdued mids of the Streamliner. The GK sounds FANTASTIC in the dark setting.
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Dingwall and MVW technology have brought me to new levels of gear satisfaction. I truly can not imagine better instruments or cabinets for my needs. Ruining GAS is the best part. :cool:
 
#153
If form factor is important, the 45 and 110 combo is like the easiest things to move of any cab I've had. Both around 30lbs and the handle on the 110 is awesome, really makes it feel even lighter. I know one of the flex210 tones is probably close to this setup, maybe mike can come up with an even closer modular flex system. You could essentially have the 110 flex on top of the 110 sub right? That would make you schlep up a flight of stairs easier.
 
#154
Mike Arnopol said:
Stairs aren't fun with any 70#cab but I hear you as far as the width. Can't shrink it but I do have some ideas.
I carry it up the stairs with the side of the cab against me---left hand on the wheel and my right hand across the front and holding on to the port flare brace on the opposite side. Does that make sense?

Ok--taking it another step.

We're dealing with an odd cab anyway but here's what I was thinking---

What about mounting a 1" dowel between two of the port braces? 1" holes drilled in two of the flare braces near the front of the braces with a 1" dowel glued and mounted between them? Provides a very nice hand hold to carry the speaker up the stairs. And it's no big deal mounting another dog bone handle on the back---obviously off center. Near the wheel.

That way your left hand grips the dog bone and your right arm reaches across the front and maybe 18" up to grab that nice 1" hand hold.

The difficulty getting up stairs is not the weight---just the awkwardness. I know my idea is left-of-center---but so is everything about this cab!

Kringle was saying to me (essentially) " that's all well and good until you put a cover on"

The cover can be made with cutouts at these points as well as for the side handles. The drivers and aren't exposed and any cover manufacturer can make flaps with Velcro to cover these two areas when not in use.

I know that this sounds weird but when you stop to think about it---I think it would work nicely. The cab is held high enough to not knock your knees and really just sits pretty naturally.

I actually built one extra 210 that I don't have any commitments on ( it's supposed to be for me but you know how that works out!) that I have at my house. I'll do this (simple) mod and post pictures.
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This approach makes sense with that cab's geometry. I have a 75 lb 610 cab 23"wx33"hx16"d with centered side pocket handles that is pretty easy to move because it sits well (high enough not to knock the knees) and is just narrow enough not to be a knuckle buster. That mod and pictures would be good to see. That MAS66, although not as imposing as the flex 210, has a very nice form factor and seems much improved with the use of okume and those 3" Faital mid/tweets. Is the crossover at a point where the MAS66 might provide a good option that falls between the flex 110 and 210 or is the flex series just a better tone?
DirtPoorRobins said:
If form factor is important, the 45 and 110 combo is like the easiest things to move of any cab I've had. Both around 30lbs and the handle on the 110 is awesome, really makes it feel even lighter. I know one of the flex210 tones is probably close to this setup, maybe mike can come up with an even closer modular flex system. You could essentially have the 110 flex on top of the 110 sub right? That would make you schlep up a flight of stairs easier.
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The 45/110 combo and flex 110 both seem like excellent solutions which would be easier to move. Even with their exquisite tone, I don't know if a single MVW-loaded 10 could keep up with the lows of a 610. The MAS66 could and the flex 210 would smoke it.
 
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5StringPocket said:
This approach makes sense with that cab's geometry. I have a 75 lb 610 cab 23"wx33"hx16"d with centered side pocket handles that is pretty easy to move because it sits well (high enough not to knock the knees) and is just narrow enough not to be a knuckle buster. That mod and pictures would be good to see. That MAS66, although not as imposing as the flex 210, has a very nice form factor and seems much improved with the use of okume and those 3" Faital mid/tweets. Is the crossover at a point where the MAS66 might provide a good option that falls between the flex 110 and 210 or is the flex series just a better tone?
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If your 610 doesn't bother you, the 210s difference should be negligible.
 
#156
3rdcurve said:
If your 610 doesn't bother you, the 210s difference should be negligible.
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It's the 26" width more than the weight, which Mike's approach would seem to make more manageable. I'd like to sell my 610 and get down to 60 lbs or less but with the tone of that flex 210 it seems like it would be worth it if the MAS-66 tone isn't in the same league.
 
#157
5StringPocket said:
It's the 26" width more than the weight, which Mike's approach would seem to make more manageable. I'd like to sell my 610 and get down to 60 lbs or less but with the tone of that flex 210 it seems like it would be worth it if the MAS-66 tone isn't in the same league.
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It's not the tone of the MAS-66 is in a different league, it is the switching on the Flex models give a LOT more tonal variations without ever touching the EQ on your amp or bass.

I'd bet the MAS-66 is between the 210 & 110 when those two are set to their 'pure' setting, probably closer to the 210.
 
#158
5StringPocket said:
The 45/110 combo and flex 110 both seem like excellent solutions which would be easier to move. Even with their exquisite tone, I don't know if a single MVW-loaded 10 could keep up with the lows of a 610. The MAS66 could and the flex 210 would smoke it.
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Go with a 45/210 and rule. :D

It would be overkill for our sanctuary, but it would be cool to slip a 110 sub under my Flex 110 just for fun. :bassist:
 
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DirtPoorRobins said:
If form factor is important, the 45 and 110 combo is like the easiest things to move of any cab I've had. Both around 30lbs and the handle on the 110 is awesome, really makes it feel even lighter. I know one of the flex210 tones is probably close to this setup, maybe mike can come up with an even closer modular flex system. You could essentially have the 110 flex on top of the 110 sub right? That would make you schlep up a flight of stairs easier.
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I have been seduced again. I'm thinking the 45 can cover many of the yacht club jazz gigs, and then slap the 110 sub underneath for the louder/funkier things.
 
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