Billy Sheehan in the Winery Dogs

[JimmyM]

Drugs don't turn dopey kids into smart ones.

 

[jelly6466]

Funny how we never heard of this disease years ago. Maybe the previous poster is right, modern pesticides etc... may have just brought this on.

 

[ProgRocker]

I haven't heard of the Winery Dogs. I'm a big fan of Billy Sheehan. I read an interview once, when I was trying to decide to jump into 5 string territory, where someone asked him why he didn't play 5 string. His reply was basically that he had so much to learn on a 4 string. I never did make the leap into 5 string, mostly because of that statement. Also, I haven't played in a group that really needed a 5 string. If I find myself in need of a 5, I will make the jump.

Hadn't heard about the new band/album. I'll have to pick it up. As for 5string land, I believe Billy strings his double-neck bass "BEAD" on the top neck, and "EADG" on the bottom. He'd save a lot of wear n' tear on his back with one five string neck.

A 5 string also eliminates the need for a detuner on the E string. A lot less complicated in my opinion.

Billy is an amazing player and a very nice guy (had the pleasure of meeting him a couple of times).

 

[JimmyM]

Funny how we never heard of this disease years ago. Maybe the previous poster is right, modern pesticides etc... may have just brought this on.

There are a lot of diseases we haven't heard of before that were created by the poison in the food we eat. And a lot more cancer as well. Cancer used to be very rare in Japan till the fast food companies made inroads there. Hell, 80% of the food you find at stores didn't even exist 100 years ago. It's all crap.

 

[ProgRocker]

Billy has corkscrew finger and bottle tilt wrist, but not ADD. Billy was born when curious over active kids were cured simply by playing outside with their friends, not drugs dispensed by lazy parents and doctors who pander to their granola chomping clients.

+1

 

[blue4]

Drugs don't turn dopey kids into smart ones.

We are not talking about stupid children, we are talking about kids who may have ADD. Just because it's overused as a diagnosis doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And really, if it's brought on by chemicals and stuff, what does that mean? Not like you are going to stop it.

 

[JimmyM]

We are not talking about stupid children, we are talking about kids who may have ADD. Just because it's overused as a diagnosis doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And really, if it's brought on by chemicals and stuff, what does that mean? Not like you are going to stop it.

You can eat organic and quit letting your kids have all the ice cream and sodas that they want.

 

[blue4]

You can eat organic and quit letting your kids have all the ice cream and sodas that they want.

There is no one in my family who has ADD. I had stated that earlier. Soda and ice cream have been around for decades though, so your theory needs a little refinement.

 

[JimmyM]

There is no one in my family who has ADD. I had stated that earlier. Soda and ice cream have been around for decades though, so your theory needs a little refinement.

That fact that ADD's only been medically accepted as a diagnosis for 3 or 4 decades doesn't tell you anything? Really?

And I was speaking in the royal "you," not you personally. I thought that was abundantly clear.

 

[ProgRocker]

You can eat organic and quit letting your kids have all the ice cream and sodas that they want.

Sure, because everyone can afford to eat so-called "organic" food. Done a cost comparison lately? Also, there are a multitude of chemicals in the environment that are beyond an individuals ability to control exposure to.

What will you advise next, that we should all move to the mountains, grow / kill our own food, etc, ad nauseam? Try being realistic. Not everyone is a Lexus driving soccer mom who can afford the latest health fads (like organic food/ products). Just the latest marketing ploy to fleece more money out of the ever gullible John Q. Public.

ADD / ADHD are legitimate neurological disorders. They are often lumped in with what are called "learning disabilities". I have ADHD and fine motor control issues, along with learning disabilities I'm not going to get into here. I'm also epileptic.

Basically I hit the neurological lottery. While things could be much worse, life hasn't exactly been fun for me. People with your attitude only serve to exacerbate the situation. For the record, chemicals had nothing to do with anything I have. I underwent extensive neurological testing to find out what the issues were.

So, while things like ADD/ADHD are likely over diagnosed and children are often getting medicated solely to make life easier for lazy parents and teachers, it is legitimate and many go unchecked for fear of people who think like you do!

Hell, I STILL have to explain to people that Epilepsy is not contagious! Seriously?!?

 

[Moosehead1966]

That fact that ADD's only been medically accepted as a diagnosis for 3 or 4 decades doesn't tell you anything? Really?

And I was speaking in the royal "you," not you personally. I thought that was abundantly clear.

Jimmy, I respect your opinions in all things bass, especially related to championing tube amps. That said, as a mental health care practitioner for the past 10 years, I respectfully think you are very misinformed regarding ADHD (officially accepted term). I believe your non 'evidenced-based' opinions could be harmful in reinforcing antiquated misinformation. Please, return to talking about all things bass and amp related.

Respectfully,

Marc

 

[MOTORHEADBANGER]

There are a lot of diseases we haven't heard of before that were created by the poison in the food we eat. And a lot more cancer as well. Cancer used to be very rare in Japan till the fast food companies made inroads there. Hell, 80% of the food you find at stores didn't even exist 100 years ago. It's all crap.

Regardless of the ADHD part, I can fully attest to manufactured/processed foods (as in a good majority of packaged crap anymore, and anything in a fast food joint) being a huge problem with our current society. Someone really needs to stand up to the corporations and explain to the masses that screwing with something as serious as body chemistry with these toxin-filled foods will lead to disastrous results. Just look at the ingredient list for Taco Bell's meat. Two of the ingredients in particular are labelled in the rest of the industry as "inedible" or dangerous to one's health, one of which being the stuff inside those fresh-packets which is always clearly labelled and something that should not be consumed.

Back to the topic of Billy... I'm going to Sweetwater's Gearfest in Fort Wayne tomorrow to (among many other things) watch one of his clinics.

 

[blue4]

That fact that ADD's only been medically accepted as a diagnosis for 3 or 4 decades doesn't tell you anything? Really?

And I was speaking in the royal "you," not you personally. I thought that was abundantly clear.

It's among thousands of other things that have come about in the last 3 to 4 decades. It tells me medical science has advanced.

 

[cfsporn]

Let's assume you're right and it does exist. OK, so do we cure it by taking the kid off the sugary pesticide covered food, or do we dope him up with ritalin?

I eat next to no sugar and foods with pesticides, and have been that way since childhood.

Even still, my attention span is quite short. To cure this, I do take medication. It helps. Is ADD over diagnosed? Yes. Is it real and controllable by medication? All of the hells yes.

 

[cfsporn]

It's among thousands of other things that have come about in the last 3 to 4 decades. It tells me medical science has advanced.

+10000

The fact that it took this long for someone to shave this problem with Ockham's razor suggests to me that a decent chunk of TBers should consider medication.

 

[ProgRocker]

+10000

The fact that it took this long for someone to shave this problem with Ockham's razor suggests to me that a decent chunk of TBers should consider medication.

Thought it, but decided not to write it. Didn't want to get modhammered for being snarky.

So, has anyone heard anything off this new album? When is it coming out?

 

[David Jayne]

Holy Thread Derail, Batman!!!!! I mean Geez!!!!

 

[john_g]

Holy Thread Derail, Batman!!!!! I mean Geez!!!!

My cats breath smells like catfood.

 

[JimmyM]

All I'm going to say about ADD anymore is this:

http://www.worldpublicunion.org/201...f-adhd-says-adhd-is-a-fictitious-disease.html

Do with that information what you will. I, OTOH, will continue to eat as organically as I possibly can, regardless of what it costs. You're either worth it or you're not, that's how I look at it.

 

[Musiclogic]

LMAO Jimmy.....always fun to bust your chops