Birdsong Club Pt 2

[boscobound]

If anyone is interested in selling a Shortbass please let me know!
(weighing at least 7lbs.)

I'd also consider a CBass too!

Thank you.
Mike 786-493-9077

 

[Fat Freddy]

I'm kinda thinking of selling a Fusion....Not that that helps you....

 

[boscobound]

Interested in the Fusion. How would a Fusion compare to a Corto 4 for contemporary Christian music?
If you can only have one bass and had to choose between these two which would it be and why?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

 

[beatlebass64]

Interested in the Fusion. How would a Fusion compare to a Corto 4 for contemporary Christian music?
If you can only have one bass and had to choose between these two which would it be and why?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

The fusion is definitely going to have a more upright, woody sound to it compared to the 4. Think of mellow blues or jazz versus funk. The fusion pickup is as far in the neck position as possible on a Birdsong and from my experience is not quite as high output, but a very nice sound that is sort of a cross between an electric and an upright (hence the name fusion).

I haven't played the Corto 4 before but that Delano is a very high output pickup. Scott has videos of both of them up on YouTube and I would imagine those videos are enough to tell the difference.

For church playing I would recommend the fusion. I gigged with one for awhile and it fits very nicely in the mix with a slightly warmer tone, though I would imagine a Corto 4 with the tone rolled off would be a little less aggressive and may work quite nice as well. The best thing you can do is call the man himself. I'm sure Scott would love to answer your question.

If you are looking at a brand new build I would suggest you consider the CBass, as it just nails that Pbass tone so well while also having the ability to get a little aggressive or upfront if you wanted to have a real cut through the mix tone. I would think the Corto 4 would be a little more on the aggressive side and the fusion a little more on the mellow side. To me the CBass is the perfect one pickup choice that can fit in with any style.

 

[cattrax]

Well, I finally have a Birdsong! I'm the proud new owner of the first C5 and it is an amazing bass! I would love to join the Birdsong Club. May I please have a number?

 

[JTaylor]

Well, I finally have a Birdsong! I'm the proud new owner of the first C5 and it is an amazing bass! I would love to join the Birdsong Club. May I please have a number?

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Beautiful!!!!! And I'm so glad it's in the right home

 

[cattrax]

Beautiful!!!!!

Thanks @JTaylor! It's incredible!

 

[Fat Freddy]

Beautiful!!!!!

Yup!....

 

[Bill R]

Well, I finally have a Birdsong! I'm the proud new owner of the first C5 and it is an amazing bass! I would love to join the Birdsong Club. May I please have a number?

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Beautiful bass Enjoy

 

[Bill R]

The fusion is definitely going to have a more upright, woody sound to it compared to the 4. Think of mellow blues or jazz versus funk. The fusion pickup is as far in the neck position as possible on a Birdsong and from my experience is not quite as high output, but a very nice sound that is sort of a cross between an electric and an upright (hence the name fusion).

I haven't played the Corto 4 before but that Delano is a very high output pickup. Scott has videos of both of them up on YouTube and I would imagine those videos are enough to tell the difference.

For church playing I would recommend the fusion. I gigged with one for awhile and it fits very nicely in the mix with a slightly warmer tone, though I would imagine a Corto 4 with the tone rolled off would be a little less aggressive and may work quite nice as well. The best thing you can do is call the man himself. I'm sure Scott would love to answer your question.

If you are looking at a brand new build I would suggest you consider the CBass, as it just nails that Pbass tone so well while also having the ability to get a little aggressive or upfront if you wanted to have a real cut through the mix tone. I would think the Corto 4 would be a little more on the aggressive side and the fusion a little more on the mellow side. To me the CBass is the perfect one pickup choice that can fit in with any style.

I have an Especial II (which is a fusion in a corto body) that I use for kirtan music (not that dissimilar from church music really). I find it blends quite well with other acoustic instruments and voices.

 

[slejhamer]

How would a Fusion compare to a Corto 4 for contemporary Christian music?
If you can only have one bass and had to choose between these two which would it be and why?

...I would imagine a Corto 4 with the tone rolled off would be a little less aggressive and may work quite nice as well. ... I would think the Corto 4 would be a little more on the aggressive side and the fusion a little more on the mellow side.

The C4 gets less edgy and smooths out nicely when you roll the volume back a little bit. Also the tone control is very dynamic paired with this pickup. It's a highly versatile combination.

I am mostly playing electric guitar in my new church band now, but will substitute on bass periodically with the C4. Coupling the volume/tone controls with a bit of additional EQing on the Sansamp Paradriver, it can do anything and do it well.

Stylewise, we cover a lot of Elevation, Passion and similar electric-oriented modern worship bands where a wide dynamic sound fits nicely.

I've never played a Fusion in a band setting, but I can imagine that sounding great on more mellow or acoustic stuff.

So... you really "need" both. ;^)

 

[Iofflight]

I have a question for those with the cbass. I pulled off the chromes and put TI flats on the bass and while I love these strings I'm not sure they work completely with the DiMarzio pickups and I just wondered if anyone else had tried some strings for the cbass in particular that they really liked.

I've got some La Bella low tension flats on hand but was open to any other suggestions.

 

[Big String]

I have a C-Bass Poplar/Rosewood. Really loving it. Scott is currently building a Cortobass for me in Mahogany/Rosewood/black Hardware, matching headstock.
I chose the standard Corto with the Single Coil and Humbucker. He hasn't started routing yet and I'm thinking of possibly going with TWO humbuckers ???

(edit) after spending some time going over the Bsong threads I've decided to stay with the original order/design of a Single and HB. ROUTE AWAY SCOTT

I'm unable to get a good idea of the difference in tone comparing the neck single coil and the neck Humbucker... at least from the videos. I do understand it would be louder .. that I could tell from the vid and he did state that. I really don't know how much I'd be favoring the neck pickup as it is probably pretty mellow. However I absolutely LOVE the look of the standard Cortobass with the single and humbucker. It is just so classy looking to me. Any feedback is appreciated.

fyi: I play in a 4pc classic rock outfit with two sealed 115 (Berg NV115) cabs and a Quilter BB800.

The C-bass DiMarzio is pretty hot and output works fantastic. I did lower the back portion by the E and A strings for a bit more balance which slightly affected the output.

To the poster above: My Cbass came with Chromes but I switched to the Curt Mangan rounds and happy with those for now. I may go back to flats for the Cbass after I get the new one.

 

[Iofflight]

Cool I’ll give those a try! Thanks.

 

[Single Coil]

My Standard76 S.D. Curlee arrived last week. I know it's not technically a Birdsong, but it is one of Scott's creations.

The specs:
Mahogany body wings
Pecan center core
DiMarzio Model One pickup
Volume & Tone controls
Series/parallel switch
Left handed

This bass sounds amazing, but nothing like my Birdsong CortoBass. This is a very aggressive bass with tons of low end. So far, I'm a big fan.

 

[Fat Freddy]

My Standard76 S.D. Curlee arrived last week. I know it's not technically a Birdsong, but it is one of Scott's creations.

The specs:
Mahogany body wings
Pecan center core
DiMarzio Model One pickup
Volume & Tone controls
Series/parallel switch
Left handed

This bass sounds amazing, but nothing like my Birdsong CortoBass. This is a very aggressive bass with tons of low end. So far, I'm a big fan.
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Love that bass....

 

[beatlebass64]

My Standard76 S.D. Curlee arrived last week. I know it's not technically a Birdsong, but it is one of Scott's creations.

The specs:
Mahogany body wings
Pecan center core
DiMarzio Model One pickup
Volume & Tone controls
Series/parallel switch
Left handed

This bass sounds amazing, but nothing like my Birdsong CortoBass. This is a very aggressive bass with tons of low end. So far, I'm a big fan.
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Would love to see or hear you A/B those two basses. The SD Curlee pick up set up really interests me. I know Scott offers the model one in the neck position a la the Gibson EB, but I've always been curious how it sounds a little more mid position.

 

[Iofflight]

I have a C-Bass Poplar/Rosewood. Really loving it. Scott is currently building a Cortobass for me in Mahogany/Rosewood/black Hardware, matching headstock.
I chose the standard Corto with the Single Coil and Humbucker. He hasn't started routing yet and I'm thinking of possibly going with TWO humbuckers ???

I know it will be a while before you get this but I would really be interested in hearing about the difference in sound between the two because I was seriously considering a traditional corto bass in walnut and rosewood and I already have a walnut/maple cbass.

 

[beatlebass64]

I have a C-Bass Poplar/Rosewood. Really loving it. Scott is currently building a Cortobass for me in Mahogany/Rosewood/black Hardware, matching headstock.
I chose the standard Corto with the Single Coil and Humbucker. He hasn't started routing yet and I'm thinking of possibly going with TWO humbuckers ???

(edit) after spending some time going over the Bsong threads I've decided to stay with the original order/design of a Single and HB. ROUTE AWAY SCOTT

I'm unable to get a good idea of the difference in tone comparing the neck single coil and the neck Humbucker... at least from the videos. I do understand it would be louder .. that I could tell from the vid and he did state that. I really don't know how much I'd be favoring the neck pickup as it is probably pretty mellow. However I absolutely LOVE the look of the standard Cortobass with the single and humbucker. It is just so classy looking to me. Any feedback is appreciated.

fyi: I play in a 4pc classic rock outfit with two sealed 115 (Berg NV115) cabs and a Quilter BB800.

The C-bass DiMarzio is pretty hot and output works fantastic. I did lower the back portion by the E and A strings for a bit more balance which slightly affected the output.

To the poster above: My Cbass came with Chromes but I switched to the Curt Mangan rounds and happy with those for now. I may go back to flats for the Cbass after I get the new one.

Regarding the Corto pickups; do you mainly play with both pickups all the way up? Switch back and forth? Blend the two at various volumes?

If you're a "both pickups at full blast" type of person I would think the main difference is that the low end will sound a little thicker. The tone overall would likely be a little beefier.

Just a guess on my part.

 

[Big String]

I know it will be a while before you get this but I would really be interested in hearing about the difference in sound between the two because I was seriously considering a traditional corto bass in walnut and rosewood and I already have a walnut/maple cbass.

Scott has a good explanation of this question on his website in regard to wood selection.