You should point him to this thread, and to the guys who have a 5000 dollar hole in their pocket and nothing but a string of emails to show for it.
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You should point him to this thread, and to the guys who have a 5000 dollar hole in their pocket and nothing but a string of emails to show for it.
I just sent a link to this thread through the contact form at BC in case someone else hadn't, with the advice that someone from the company should respond to all this. Figured it couldn't hurt. I don't do facebook but maybe someone could throw a link on their page too..
Haven’t heard from the OP in awhile.
Hopefully, the regime change will give him some resolution one way or the other.
Hopefully, the regime change will give him some resolution one way or the other.
I'm sure there's a balance somewhere here. We all are repulsed by what has happened with BC and to the customers that were victimized. Yet there are people who love the basses and would love to have access to them.
At this time, there's still a chance that the new owner might breathe new life into the company and revive the brand. Who knows, he might even try to heal old wounds. No one has said anything officially, so isn't it too early to judge this?
Keep in mind, TB/DB is a publicly available historical archive. Do you want to go on record with this early condemnation?
It's all too easy to cast stones at this point in time.
At this time, there's still a chance that the new owner might breathe new life into the company and revive the brand. Who knows, he might even try to heal old wounds. No one has said anything officially, so isn't it too early to judge this?
Keep in mind, TB/DB is a publicly available historical archive. Do you want to go on record with this early condemnation?
It's all too easy to cast stones at this point in time.
I haven't read this thread. I actually know nothing about Blast Cult, other than my friend has a number of them. My ONLY point here was to say that Jason Brown (as far as I know) is a respected and talented luthier. He is about to start working with Blast Cult.
I don't need to read the whole thread. My only concern here is that Jason Brown has a great reputation and will hopefully be able to do good things at Blast Cult. It looks like people are mixing up Jason Burns and Jason Brown. Jason Brown was the luthier for Lemur. He left them a few years ago to open his own shop. He's joined Blast Cult to help "right the ship" and bring innovation to the brand. Looks like a healthy thing.
So he is going to sign on to a company that makes plywood tanks that are far more concerned with looks and not feeding back over actual sound? And someone said innovation?
People on this thread need a lot more self-awareness.
This type of bass and musical style is not my field of expertise. I can't argue with Mr Smith's point of view. My ONLY(!!!!!!) point is that Jason Brown, is not Jason Burns! I don't know or care jack about the company. He's signing on to try to make things better and innovate in order to help make these basses more than musical step stools. This is a good thing. (hopefully)
Martin Luther King joining the KKK wouldn't have changed its image much, while his own would be tarnished forever.
I don't think anyone is knocking the new guy. Just questioning the decision to take on a business that at it's best is an unethical mess with nightmare customer service, and that's being generous given what's transpired in this thread. The more likely scenario is that Burns is a liar and thief, and that reputation has followed him through two companies now. Who would want to inherit that mess on purpose?
Because a person who fixes things for a living believes things are fixable.
Thank you for chiming in!!!
I'm terribly confused though...
I'm aware of three bass-related Jasons:
1) Jason Minor, who was the person who worked on my Alcoa before I owned it, and to my knowledge is the person who owned and ran Deuce Bass Company in Hemet, and originated the Deuce Bridge.
2) Jason Burns, of Bass Cult and formerly King Basses, who we've all grown to know and love at least as a result of this thread.
3) Jason Brown, who is the luthier at Lemur Music in San Juan Capistrano and who may be taking over or taking part in the Bass Cult company (and I assume is the person I'm replying to with this message).
- Interestingly, Jason Minor seems to no longer be the active name and presence at the FB Deuce Bridge (formerly Deuce Bass Company) website, having been replaced in name and I'm guessing in presence by Jason Brown.
@Red Brown, not to put you on the spot as I'm anxious to see how things work out for you at BC in a positive way, but can you provide some recent history on the Deuce Bass / Deuce Bridge - Jason Brown involvement for us?
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‘They’ sure do
Lots of folks play in super loud rock bands and basses like BC’s can be very beneficial for that. I wouldnt use one on a session, of course
They are basically over built EUBs. All the bad sound and none of the convenience - flames and skulls though!‘They’ sure do
Lots of folks play in super loud rock bands and basses like BC’s can be very beneficial for that. I wouldnt use one on a session, of course
Confusing is right!
I don't blame anyone for being confused. Jayson Minor was involved with Deuce Bridge, and handled it in a way that didn't work that well. He is no longer part of that. I wish him well, none the less and won't speak badly about him. He has always meant well, and just let things get out of control. I was not involved with Deuce Bridge during this time; he was in charge of it, and it was his to run.
Blast Cult has had some issues, in the past, and there were deposits taken for some basses, and that is being addressed with the individuals involved, and they will be getting the latest basses, which are going to be the next evolution featuring design changes that I'm influencing from my years of classical and jazz lutherie. Jason Burns has also done a lot of really creative and great stuff, there, and deserves a lot of credit for that. He created a brand and a concept that is loved by many, no doubt, and my experience in the booth, at NAMM, confirmed this beyond any doubt. His fans are many, and our booth was buzzing with positive energy from many of the luminaries in the bass and music community.
The new bass will be a bass which is appealing to everyone since this is what I do...make people love their basses. The company will soon be reachable, again, and it will be a new day. I hope the haters here will give it a chance, and I know that many of my clients are very excited about this union and the good that will come of it. I decided to join talk bass today because I was alerted by some of my clients that my name came up, and that someone mentioned that I might be of questionable character or something. Well, I'm right here, now, and they can address it directly. I don't know this person, but if anyone has something to say, I'm all ears.
I replied to you, dhergert, because your question addressed a very confusing point, and you were also very nice about it, so thank you. I would love to have no confrontations and enjoy this page. My entire life is spent either serving other bassists or playing the bass, so the bass community is my world, and I love it. Please feel free to share this to anyone who is also wondering what is going on. Cheers!
PS, I decided to offer my welded version of the Deuce Bridge, in a limited fashion, a couple months ago by offering six to the first six people who replied, and I filled the orders in 10 minutes. So, they must not be that terrible! I know the look is not for everyone, but the concept and performance are beyond doubt as they have proved themselves many times over, in the real world. The bridge was created in my basement shop, by myself and Jayson Minor, back when we both lived in Wisconsin, around 8 years ago. And Jason Burns and myself both played bass in the Hank Williams III band. I was the original bassist for around 7 years, and he came onboard shortly after I left. So, yeah, a lot of room for mixing us all up! And sorry about all the edits! I think that does it!
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Thank you very much, that answers a lot of questions at least for me.
I had thought until I saw the current FB Deuce page this morning that Jason Minor was the potential person who was going to work with BC. I've never met or done business with him, but he did make my Alcoa playable. That said, I do know a lot of people are extremely happy that the person who will be working with BC will be you. Your name and reputation will lend credibility to the whole endeavor.
As I expressed earlier in this thread, I wish you the very best. I think your approach to healing the old BC wounds is exactly what people really want to see, and I think your approach to a bass that will appeal to everyone is a great direction to go. I also hugely applaud your presence here, and the transparency that you exhibit here about your goals.
The one thing missing that I'd really suggest you consider is to have a way to talk with you on the phone. Many of us don't like or regularly use FB, and email often just doesn't provide fast enough answers. If there's any way we can talk to you by phone, putting a real person at the shop, I think that would really help assure customers, as well as provide timely information about products that you will sell. I do know that might be difficult if you're going to be a one-man shop, but given the rebuilding that you'll be doing, that might really be worth it.
Just one more question: Are you going to be or continue working out of the location in Hemet, or do you have another workspace? I'd love throw my Alcoa into the car and come by and visit sometime.
Again, I wish the very best to you as you take on this challenge!!!
I had thought until I saw the current FB Deuce page this morning that Jason Minor was the potential person who was going to work with BC. I've never met or done business with him, but he did make my Alcoa playable. That said, I do know a lot of people are extremely happy that the person who will be working with BC will be you. Your name and reputation will lend credibility to the whole endeavor.
As I expressed earlier in this thread, I wish you the very best. I think your approach to healing the old BC wounds is exactly what people really want to see, and I think your approach to a bass that will appeal to everyone is a great direction to go. I also hugely applaud your presence here, and the transparency that you exhibit here about your goals.
The one thing missing that I'd really suggest you consider is to have a way to talk with you on the phone. Many of us don't like or regularly use FB, and email often just doesn't provide fast enough answers. If there's any way we can talk to you by phone, putting a real person at the shop, I think that would really help assure customers, as well as provide timely information about products that you will sell. I do know that might be difficult if you're going to be a one-man shop, but given the rebuilding that you'll be doing, that might really be worth it.
Just one more question: Are you going to be or continue working out of the location in Hemet, or do you have another workspace? I'd love throw my Alcoa into the car and come by and visit sometime.
Again, I wish the very best to you as you take on this challenge!!!
