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Boner Bass Club

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this is a boner with a story. allow me:

i learned on my older brothers ibanez starter bass. after logging many man hours, developing calluses that will be with my for the rest of my life, mowing many lawns and shoveling snow out of many driveways, i learned how to play and had the money to go buy myself a bass. i had $650 total. i literally saved every dollar i made for a very long time (i think i was 12 years old.) so i went to guitar center, and i was torn between two basses - one was a Kramer that i remember had steel in the neck, the other was this fender. i decided i wanted the kramer, and my older brother (thank god!) told me absolutely not, get a fender, its a better instrument. (he was probably 15 years old, and had no idea what he was talking about, but in reality this was good advice.) so i got the fender- it cost me $630. a USA fender, in my world at the time, that was IT! i made it big. right?

i took my first bass lesson on that instrument. i played my first performance in front of an audience, with a middle school jazz band, on that bass. i played my first paid gig on it. i did my first recording sessions with it. you get the idea. fast forward to mid- highschool, and i was studying with mike frost and became really in love with his approach, sound, ext. at this point i only played 6 string basses, and being young and immature made no exceptions - i was a 6 string electric bass player, period. so eventually to fund a purchase i sell my first bass, saying "ill never play it, its a four string bass."

about a year or so later i was starting to get more work and realized that at auditions, first meetings, ext, the sight of boutiquey 6 string basses turns off many people, and a fender bass makes these people happy, and is simply more appropriate for wedding bands and such. i started to regret selling the bass. eventually i bought a MIM fender to "replace" it, but really wished i'd kept the first bass. the MIM was quite nice too, but thats long gone and another story for another day.

then, after i graduated highschool, and was on my way to start a college music program, my mom has a graduation gift for me. it's the bass. all my ding marks, scuffs, everything- even the original receipt from guitar center. my mom setup the sale knowing i'd regret selling my first instrument. (her father was a master musician, so i guess he had many sob stories about instruments he shouldn't have sold.)

and, as recent as two weeks ago, this bass and i experienced another first- i paid somebody else to do a full setup on one of my basses. i could never afford that, and was forced to learn it all on my own- mostly on this bass, sadly enough. it turned out to need a fair amount of electronic work, from my years of abuse and learning how to solder.

when i got it back from the repairman, i found out that it's nicknamed a boner bass, and got the whole history of these basses.


so now it's the bass i use to teach on, i use it for recording, and certain gigs. its lightweight and sounds very nice. when i get caught up in worrying that my other basses (pictured) dont sound the way i want them too, ill plug this in and realize how good i've got it- considering that this is a perfectly good bass! if i had to complain, id say it's not much of a slapper- but the P bass sound, or the jaco type of thing, this bass does really really well.

cheers to all my fellow boner owners, it's a pleasure to be among you.
 
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GREAT STORY glad you got it back.. now if i could get my first bass back id be in heaven but hey i know the guy who has it so it is in good hands.. Rock on with the boner P bass I have heard they are great just like my Boner Jazz.. IMO i think they under rated basses .. well welcome to the club
 
For some reason I have a problem downloading images w/imgbox, but like I said, it looks like the OP's red '93. It does in fact have the TBX, but I'm not quite sure what the difference in tone is - it sounds like a standard tone pot to my ears. The bass needed some TLC but it cleaned up nicely and everything checks out more or less after an initial set-up. It has some sort of round-wounds on it (ok shape), which I will eventually change to either GHS Progressives or Pressure-wounds. I'm noticing a weak E string response and it may be the left-most poles (neck) have lost magnetic strength. They just seem a bit less grabby when lightly holding a thin metal palette knife above them compared to the others. I raised the E side as high as it could go w/o woofing, and lowered the G side to help balance it out for now. I want to get it professionally set-up eventually and will have then look into the issue.

Otherwise it looks sharp and plays nicely, especially after lightly sanding the neck and buffing it w/a 3M fine sanding pad.
 
can y ou raise the pick up on the E string side to make it more level sounding? also try not sure who makes it but I put half rounds/half flats on mine and not sure which they are called but the tone form them is amazing on this bass.. congrats on getting a GREAT BASS
 
can y ou raise the pick up on the E string side to make it more level sounding? also try not sure who makes it but I put half rounds/half flats on mine and not sure which they are called but the tone form them is amazing on this bass.. congrats on getting a GREAT BASS

Yah, that's the 1st thing I did and it may have helped a little. The strings actually look pretty new, but I'll see if I have an old E in my collection to test with. Overal, the E sounds good played with the other strings, but just no umph when played open as it should. I'm hoping it's only a dead string which is easy to remedy. I've used half-rounds in the past and like them but my new favorite (for passive basses) is the Pressure-wounds for a nice feel/touch and a bright/full tone.
 
GREAT STORY glad you got it back.. now if i could get my first bass back id be in heaven but hey i know the guy who has it so it is in good hands.. Rock on with the boner P bass I have heard they are great just like my Boner Jazz.. IMO i think they under rated basses .. well welcome to the club

thanks,

i dont think they're underrated, theyre just under populated. there's not that many of them, they were only made for a few years and it wasn't that long ago, so its not like a rare vintage model, its just a weird old bass.

the one thing i think is under rated is that bridge. i know some dont have it, but look at my pics above- now THATS a bass bridge.
 
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well a pro set up should do wonders for it as well.. i know that many people have commented on my jazz to the best tone i have had.. so congrats again..

Started really digging into my red J today - and read up on the TBX.http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/The_Fender_TBX_Tone_Control_Part_1 It is subtle but I hear how it alters the tone. This double tone pot was on the '85 Performer bass also, maybe introduced there along w/the Eric Clapton Strat they mention. I also learned that you can buy a TBX double pot for $15 and it works on any passive bass/guitar. I've gotten so used to active basses that I'm revisiting what a nice passive J sounds like - lovin' it! It's odd considering it is passive but I can also get it to sound like a Kubicki Factor I once owned - very modern. (maybe it's the strings) Really glad I got it -

my pics are downloading again - here she is;

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WOW VERY NICE.. yeah had practice last night and my jazz is just the sound i love. I dont have the original TBX pick ups or set up.the last owner put in EMG JV pick ups and it has a mid sweep double pot and it can sound like anything i want really.. i never have as many compliments on my sound since this jazz...
 
After reading through all the posts I see how the bridge had that spacing issue. I just bought this for under $30 - keepin' it simple. (no HM etc) Invalid Link Removed

I don't mind the black Strat knobs as they were of the era for Fender offshoots like this style J. May experiment w/pu's and possibly electronics as time goes by - I want to keep it passive, and I read that SD Antiquities were mentioned. I do like the Lindy Fralin split-poles. (no hum) Any other recommendations?


Here's it's older sister currently on ebay (hellof a BIN price for a '65!) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181225134236&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:3160
 
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Yeah i had a bridge from an old Yamaha BB450 I had laying around and am keeping the original bridge so i have the original.wish i had the original pick ups and knobs but oh well .. the emg JV pick ups are passive.. and sound amazing.. it has a 9 volt for the mid sweep thing seriously they are awesome pick ups. I am a believer in Fralins as well since he has his shop intown here and i know someone that works there.. I put his P bass pick up in an old E series MIJ p bass and it brought the bass to life...
 
Yeah i had a bridge from an old Yamaha BB450 I had laying around and am keeping the original bridge so i have the original.wish i had the original pick ups and knobs but oh well .. the emg JV pick ups are passive.. and sound amazing.. it has a 9 volt for the mid sweep thing seriously they are awesome pick ups. I am a believer in Fralins as well since he has his shop intown here and i know someone that works there.. I put his P bass pick up in an old E series MIJ p bass and it brought the bass to life...

I popped for a nice price for a Fender split pole J set (Super 55) and some GHS Pressurewound strings. I like the Fralins but I'm willing to give these Fender split-poles a chance, especially at the price I got them. Back when I bought LF's split-coils, he was about the only guy producing them. Now everyone (including Fender finally) is offering them. And mostly conceptually, I like that it will still be 100% Fender! Once I get the RED boner revamped I'll do another review.

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So exactly how did the stock bridge (actually really nice quality) get by R&D to being sold for 5 years being that it was spaced too wide? Was that a deliberate design choice (and for what reason?) or was it a major product design/manufacturer blunder? Would this non-traditional spacing work on some other Fender bass? :eyebrow: Crazy.