Bootique speaker cables?

[DJ Bebop]

There is a difference between oxygen free cable and regular cable, but it not something that I could ever hear a benefit from.

You are right, there maybe a difference but you will not hear it...

Bootique speaker cables?

 

[58kites]

You are right, there maybe a difference but you will not hear it...

Which is what I said.

As I said just hours ago, I spent from age 17 to age 32 working at a 1975 startup company that still makes music/audio/recording cable and associated audio interface gear almost 40 years on.
Whirlwind: Home

 

[DJ Bebop]

Which is what I said.

As I said just hours ago, I spent from age 17 to age 32 working at a 1975 startup company that still makes music/audio/recording cable and associated audio interface gear almost 40 years on.
Whirlwind: Home

I wasn't disagreeing, I was reinforcing your point

The "you" was a collective you, and not 'you' you.

 

[avi]

Hello to all,
Am looking to add some boutique speaker cables to my studio that are primarily oriented to bass rigs. simply for the purpose of experimentation. so, clients can shoot them out for themselves. I'm not concerned about the "snake oil" factor or hype. in a right or wrong way (I think that's been beaten to death) j but rather, just some different cables with different theories/stories behind them, that are engagingly fun to explore, for my clients that are interested in such things. My current inventory is:

-Rattle snake brand speaker cables
-Mogami Gold
-Evidence Siren II
-Vovox Excelsus drive
-Monster pro link 2000

Any recommendations are appreciated.

Don't use the Monster instrument cables with barrel Jack's. They are longer and over time break the Jack's. Things I wished I knew.

 

[Low Main]

Once you have cables, you'll have to get other critical stuff you didn't know you needed.

Such as Dark Field Cable Elevators

For Static Field Unification and Vibrational Management.

A set of 12 is only $350.00

"A must own in any high end setup".

Elevators

 

[Dilatant]

Don't use the Monster instrument cables with barrel Jack's. They are longer and over time break the Jack's. Things I wished I knew.

Thanks for sharing THAT!

 

[Bob_Ross]

Purely answering your original question and not questioning motives…

^^^This is the only way to not have this thread go completely off the rails imho...although I see we're already at 7 pages, so probably too late for that!

And don't get me wrong, my gut inclination is to completely debunk the whole Snake Oil & Hype angle, to remind OP and others about Confirmation Bias and The Placebo Effect and all the other psychological and physiological aspects that impact What We Hear and What We Think We Hear...

But I like the positive approach @ahadl2500 suggests so I'm going to turn over a new leaf and follow suit. OP, you should definitely get some speaker cables by

- Kimber Cable
- MIT Cables
- StraightWire
- AudioQuest

and add them to your collection so that clients may audition them along with all your amps and cabinets.
And then sit back and enjoy the discussions/observations. And the billable hours.

 

[Mark Ellis]

I think boutique speaker cable is a rip off.
Use any good quality heavy gauge copper cable properly soldered to gold plated connectors will do the job just as well. Make sure the cable is no longer than it needs to be.

 

[Dilatant]

^^^This is the only way to not have this thread go completely off the rails imho...although I see we're already at 7 pages, so probably too late for that!

And don't get me wrong, my gut inclination is to completely debunk the whole Snake Oil & Hype angle, to remind OP and others about Confirmation Bias and The Placebo Effect and all the other psychological and physiological aspects that impact What We Hear and What We Think We Hear...

But I like the positive approach @ahadl2500 suggests so I'm going to turn over a new leaf and follow suit. OP, you should definitely get some speaker cables by

- Kimber Cable
- MIT Cables
- StraightWire
- AudioQuest

.

Thanks for the recommendations, and for getting my thread back on the rails !

 

[byacey]

14 Gauge Trailer Cable 4 Wire - WiringProducts, Ltd.

Neutrik NL4FX - speakON 4 Pole Cable Connector

 

[Pilgrim]

The ts plug vs. speak-on topic, often coms up so, I always buy both versions of each cable and length. It's quite fascinating to see what players think they hear, with different cables. It keeps them in the studio longer, which makes me more money, and satisfies their curiosity so, it's a win-win, in the end.

So this is really an exercise in psycho-acoustics, so that the customer can make themselves happy with what they THINK they hear, while they invest a bit more money in studio time?

Given that I think the whole "this cable sounds better than that cable" is hogwash, I think that's a very clever way to make a few more bucks out of the studio session. The client makes themselves happy by changing things that make no difference, while keeping the clock running on the studio session.

Result: you're happy with the result, and so are they. I applaud this outcome.

Methinks you have a bright future in marketing!

 

[edencab]

I think boutique speaker cable is a rip off.
Use any good quality heavy gauge copper cable properly soldered to gold plated connectors will do the job just as well. Make sure the cable is no longer than it needs to be.

gold plating not required

 

[Mark Ellis]

Is gold plating required? No. But gold plating is a fairly cheap process because it is so thin. The advantage of gold is that it does not corrode.
The primary considerations on an electronic circuit are resistance, inductance and capacitance and all of these are characteristics of cables they can effect the sound.
The worst speaker cable would be made from long thin wires, made from an inconsistent alloy, coiled up between the speaker and the amp and plugs covered in corrosion.
The best would be short thick cables made of fairly pure copper soldered to plugs that don't corrode.

But can you really hear the difference?
Get a group of musicians and do double blind listening tests. This could be a fun test for a retailer to organize on a quiet night in a pub. The attending musicians would vote for Cable A, B, C, D, or E.

 

[Dilatant]

So this is really an exercise in psycho-acoustics, so that the customer can make themselves happy with what they THINK they hear, while they invest a bit more money in studio time?

Thanks for your thoughts, Pilgrim. Honestly, the cable thing is the least of my client's interest. in the grand scheme of the recording process. It's the NEVE vs API vs etc mic preamp vs D.I. box (name your brand) and don't forget the mic choice! oh! and the head and cab.... and the bass (what pickups? and finally the player. I've heard so many great conversations come from all these factors. I've met so many wonderful players and builders of gear, and the concepts thereof. truly rewarding times with wonderful gear, snake oil included.

Something that fascinates me is, the reactions of people. one guy will hate me for suggesting gear, whilst the other will love me for it. sometimes I feel like a drug dealer. haha. again no one is being taken advantage of in my studio. If their curious, THAT's what I'm here for. more often than not, when asked, "Doi you hear a difference"? I'll say, "No, I don't but, some people do...and your welcome to try"