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Booyah! The 1x15 Shootout!

#41
Uziel said:
do you think 2 tri115 cabs could sound as full as a whappo cab ? i'm dont know what to AG cab to choose for my new rig....
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Yes! I tried two Tri 115L's at NAMM, and I flat out loved it! More articulate, to my ears, than the El Whappo, but just as big and full. I really, really dug two Tri 115L's. I gotta try the 115L with my Whappo, Jr. :smug: :bassist: :D
 
#43
JGR said:
tell me more about that orange! good rock cab with tube heads? is the 4x10 as cool as the 1x15??

cheers,


JR
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I have used the Orange 4x10/1x15 with several tube heads, including, of course, the AD200, and they are definitely killer rock cabs that work very well with tube power. The 1x15 on its own is a fantastic rock cab, and two would make for a fun rig, too. I have not spent much time A/Bing just the 4x10 to other 4x10's (that's coming...:ninja: ), but I would expect it to be great on its own for rock, and again, the two together are very good.
 
#46
alexclaber said:
The Tri-115L really strikes me as the best of the AccuGroove designs. The Carvin LS1503 however seems a fine way to get a similar sounding cab (that is arguably better engineered!) at a much lower price - though you don't get the badge kudos...

Alex
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That Carvin does, indeed, look great, and greenboy certainly has me stoked to hear one some day. :cool:
 
#47
JGR said:
tell me more about that orange! good rock cab with tube heads? is the 4x10 as cool as the 1x15??

cheers,


JR
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I spent a GOOD deal of time with the orange stuff last time I was at Tom's. I've never been a huge fan of the 4x10 over 1x15 stack, but man, this thing was killer. It could do the warm, laid back style stuff, as far as even reggae, if you wanted, but when you started pushing that drive, man did that sucker light up. Very punchy, with just enough lows (more than an Ampeg Fridge, but less than a big ol 2x15 or a modern "super cab") and a nice agressive top end. Bumping up the gain really can take you from warm and "brown" to more standard tones, to a ROARING tube amp. I really enjoyed it.

Tom, I'm smitten with the tone of your NV215. However, I'm not sure I want a box that big, as I'm likely to be doing smaller stuff, soon, too. Is there anything you can think of that would put me in that tone park in two smaller boxes?
 
#48
Dan1099 said:
I spent a GOOD deal of time with the orange stuff last time I was at Tom's. I've never been a huge fan of the 4x10 over 1x15 stack, but man, this thing was killer. It could do the warm, laid back style stuff, as far as even reggae, if you wanted, but when you started pushing that drive, man did that sucker light up. Very punchy, with just enough lows (more than an Ampeg Fridge, but less than a big ol 2x15 or a modern "super cab") and a nice agressive top end. Bumping up the gain really can take you from warm and "brown" to more standard tones, to a ROARING tube amp. I really enjoyed it.

Tom, I'm smitten with the tone of your NV215. However, I'm not sure I want a box that big, as I'm likely to be doing smaller stuff, soon, too. Is there anything you can think of that would put me in that tone park in two smaller boxes?
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Thanks!

JR
 
#49
Dan1099 said:
Tom, I'm smitten with the tone of your NV215. However, I'm not sure I want a box that big, as I'm likely to be doing smaller stuff, soon, too. Is there anything you can think of that would put me in that tone park in two smaller boxes?
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Hmmmm... That is a tough one. I don't think you can really replicate the awe-inspiring low end of that cab with two smaller cabs, but I'd say that either the new HS410 (or two HS210's), with the tweeters turned down just a tad, or else possibly two Tri 115L's might get you in the same ballpark. Note: I am not saying that a single HS410 would sound like two Tri 115L's, just that both of those rigs would to a certain extent replicate the sound of the NV215, but in a smaller package.

Really, though, those NV cabs are not as bad to move/haul as you might think, so don't write off the NV215 so quickly.

Tom.
 
#50
Dan1099 said:
I spent a GOOD deal of time with the orange stuff last time I was at Tom's. I've never been a huge fan of the 4x10 over 1x15 stack, but man, this thing was killer. It could do the warm, laid back style stuff, as far as even reggae, if you wanted, but when you started pushing that drive, man did that sucker light up. Very punchy, with just enough lows (more than an Ampeg Fridge, but less than a big ol 2x15 or a modern "super cab") and a nice agressive top end. Bumping up the gain really can take you from warm and "brown" to more standard tones, to a ROARING tube amp. I really enjoyed it.

Tom, I'm smitten with the tone of your NV215. However, I'm not sure I want a box that big, as I'm likely to be doing smaller stuff, soon, too. Is there anything you can think of that would put me in that tone park in two smaller boxes?
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I'm also a fan of the NV215. The new DB112's, while not exactly the same, does a pretty good imitation of the 'vintage/modern' blend. Nice warmth and punch. Obviously less deep lows than the massive NV215, and a more defined top end due to the tweeter versus mid cone, but it's in that same 'vintage with articulation' that I hear with the NV215, and to an extend, the Accugroove Tri115 IMO... mid punchy but still a lot of note definition, and a treble response that is present but not sizzly.
 
#52
Okay, as I was playing through all of these 1x15's, I did happen to look over at my Phil Jones Bass 9B sitting in the corner, and I couldn't help but note that it is about the same size as the typical 1x15. So, just for kicks, I did a quick and dirty comparison to some of the 1x15's. :D

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First off, the specs are 9 5" drivers, 8 ohm, 900w, 40 Hz to 15 kHz, 76 lbs, 18" x 20.5" x 17.5", and it is primarily intended to be used with the 6T top (but I just tried it on its own). My experience with PJB cabs has been that with SS power, they are real hogs, and need to be spanked hard (though they seem to like it :p). With tube amplification, however, they tend to blossom with much less power (200w is plenty of tube power to get these cabs really going!). But this test was with the CA9, and I definitely had to crank the gain a bit more to get the 9B to put out as much as the 1x15's were dishing out. Once this was done, however, I had probably the most coherent midrange of the bunch, with a sense of attack that seemed just as strong on the lowest notes as it did throughout the mids. I do not believe the casters on the 9B are removable, and when it is sitting on its casters, it did not yield as strong of a low end response as the other cabs (which were sitting flat on the floor). However, if I laid it on its side, or sat it upside down, the low end was enhanced, and in this configuration, the 9B probably fell in the middle of the pack, to possibly on the lean side of the pack. The high end was very nice, and certainly all I would ever want as a fingerstyle player, though I could perhaps see where some slap/pop players might want a tad more sparkle - but really, the PJB cabs are more extended in the high frequencies than you'd expect from a cab without a tweeter. On the whole, the 9B was very articulate, very balanced and complex in the mids, punchy, smooth, and focused, but not as full/deep sounding as some of the 1x15's, and not as efficient, either.

Tom.
 
#54
I think 4) 8's would be closer in cone area and efficiency to the typical 15. They would trade low end extension for mid low to midrange focus.

I've been debating a 4)8" thing for a while now. such a toss up.

morebass! said:
Tom - You used to have a Mesa 2x15 didn't you? I believe you posted that you liked the Mesa 15 tone a lot. How do these more modern 15's stack up to the Mesa tonally?
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Or heck even an EV TL106! Cmon, at least bring in the reference cab for which all 15's should be measured. I've played through one and was more than impressed with its balance.
 
#55
joelb79 said:
I think 4) 8's would be closer in cone area and efficiency to the typical 15. They would trade low end extension for mid low to midrange focus.
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Probably not. Four 8" woofers with similar resonant frequency to a 15" woofer are more likely to have more bass extension but less sensitivity in the same size cab.

Alex
 
#56
morebass! said:
Tom - You used to have a Mesa 2x15 didn't you? I believe you posted that you liked the Mesa 15 tone a lot. How do these more modern 15's stack up to the Mesa tonally?
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I did not buy the Mesa 2x15 (though I heavily debated getting a Diesel 2x15), because it was just too darned big and heavy for me (and yes, I am not one who is generally shy of heavy gear!). I ended up getting a Diesel 4x10, with the idea of getting a Diesel 1x15 to go with it, but I got side-traced by an Eden 212XLT, and the rest is history...

So, while I definitely like the older Boogie 2x15's, I have not been able to use/hear/review them in such a fashion as to be able to offer a meaningful comparison. Sorry. :(

Tom.
 
#57
Wow, there's actually a piece of gear that I have more experience with than tombowlus does! I feel kind of special.:)

I've owned five or six 1x15 cabs and several 2x15's over the years. Most are considered dinosaurs today. But the Mesa has a certain undeniable gutsy character in the mids that it is in a category by itself. Could be that the Orange and/or TE are in the same category though. I haven't heard them enough to know.
 
#58
Tom

First of all thanks for the shootout posting.

What was your impression of the Glock Tedd in live conditions. As we all know what sounds good in the basement doesn't necessarily translate well in live performance. Did you find it capable of handling the needs of the venue. specifically its volume and its ability to project and fill the room. It was designed to be a stand alone cabinet voiced more suitably for rockers. Its specs show it to be a full range cab rated from 38hz to 15k. Did you pair it with the Heart Core amp?

Inquiring minds want to know.:)

Enjoy the rig.
 
#59
Mark Sacchetti said:
Tom

First of all thanks for the shootout posting.

What was your impression of the Glock Tedd in live conditions. As we all know what sounds good in the basement doesn't necessarily translate well in live performance. Did you find it capable of handling the needs of the venue. specifically its volume and its ability to project and fill the room. It was designed to be a stand alone cabinet voiced more suitably for rockers. Its specs show it to be a full range cab rated from 38hz to 15k. Did you pair it with the Heart Core amp?

Inquiring minds want to know.:)

Enjoy the rig.
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I haven't gigged with it live yet (only had it a brief time, as you know! ;)), but in a loudish band practice setting, it cut through the mix like a mo fo. I used it with the Heart-Rock head at that practice, but I am hoping to try the Heart-Core at our next practice.

Tom.
 

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