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Boss GT 1000Core
- Thread starter Krisfield
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I have a question, that I failed to Google my way to.
How does one chose which cab sims to use, and what kind of parameters can be tweaked in that regard?
A link explaining this would be welcome.
I am already routing out potential signal chains in my head, and pondering which single pedals I should probably keep and include in the two effects loops.
How does one chose which cab sims to use, and what kind of parameters can be tweaked in that regard?
A link explaining this would be welcome.
I am already routing out potential signal chains in my head, and pondering which single pedals I should probably keep and include in the two effects loops.
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Boss is not good at explaining, neither with the manual or the parameter guide. Still, to get the most out of the Core the parameter guide is a 'must read' imo : )
(link to a downloadable pdf, it's the parameter guide not the manual)
(link to a downloadable pdf, it's the parameter guide not the manual)
Another source of information. It's written for the GT 1000 but applies to the Core version.
THE ULTIMATE GUIDE to GT-1000/Core
THE ULTIMATE GUIDE to GT-1000/Core
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The package have arrived, going to pick it up in a couple of hours.
So exited!
Read through all the documents I could found, and think I should have a good idea about how to set it up now.
And I already have a potential signal path drawn up, and planed out how to assign the 5 foot switched (I got an additional 2 foot switches extension control that I will add), though this may be subject to change once I find out how this actually works out and sound.
So exited!
Read through all the documents I could found, and think I should have a good idea about how to set it up now.
And I already have a potential signal path drawn up, and planed out how to assign the 5 foot switched (I got an additional 2 foot switches extension control that I will add), though this may be subject to change once I find out how this actually works out and sound.
Owned Helix Rack, HX Stomp, still have GTKCore and Helix Native
Two instruments, the HX Stomp doesn't have two separate signal paths like the full Helix, so it's kinda possible but the solution is going to be a bit hacky.
HX Stomp vs GTKCore:
- only 8 blocks
- half the DSP of a full Helix
- freely selectable EQ freq and Q
- much better software editor, editing from the front panel is a pain (tiny screen, encoders feel cheap)
- drives sound good, sound quality really isn't a concern with these devices
- higher current draw
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Ok, I think something is wrong with my unit, when I initiate a patch the entire original signal chains remains.
It does say it clears the patch, and then it is automatically renamed to init patch, or something like that, but nothing actually happens.
How do I clear a patch completely so I can start building my signal chain from scratch, and how do I delete individual pedals/dividers/mixers?
It does say it clears the patch, and then it is automatically renamed to init patch, or something like that, but nothing actually happens.
How do I clear a patch completely so I can start building my signal chain from scratch, and how do I delete individual pedals/dividers/mixers?
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You can't. The Core has a fixed block layout. You can only move and disable individual blocks.
Probably a bit early to judge it fairly, but my initial impression is that I do not like it, and I am fairly disapointed.
Way too complicated to set up a signal path, the fact that you can only chose 1 "Mod Dly", 1 "Reverb" and 2 overdrive/dists blocks in each path is not to my liking either.
And there is something about the sound of it, I can't quite put my finger on it, but it somehow feels 1 dimensional.
I also prefer the sound of the reverbs on my old Zoom B1Xon to this, and my NUX Tape Core Deluxe to the Boss Space Echo (they seek to emulate the same thing).
I will delve in deeper tomorrow, and see if I can cope a great basic tone out of it, and if I succeed I might keep it, otherwise I am probably going to sell it off again.
Way too complicated to set up a signal path, the fact that you can only chose 1 "Mod Dly", 1 "Reverb" and 2 overdrive/dists blocks in each path is not to my liking either.
And there is something about the sound of it, I can't quite put my finger on it, but it somehow feels 1 dimensional.
I also prefer the sound of the reverbs on my old Zoom B1Xon to this, and my NUX Tape Core Deluxe to the Boss Space Echo (they seek to emulate the same thing).
I will delve in deeper tomorrow, and see if I can cope a great basic tone out of it, and if I succeed I might keep it, otherwise I am probably going to sell it off again.
Remember that you have a few fx blocks that can be used in various ways, including adding another reverb or distortion. Also don’t overlook programming midi commands that change one block to another.
It's definitely not a plug n play unit. I think you need a digital sound design mindset to make it do what you want it to do. To get the amp sound you want, it might mean using extra EQ blocks, using two compressors and a limiter, using parallel/bi amping AIRD amps.
I tried again and I was definitely capable to improve the tone to decent.
But I also think it's a matter of me having perfected a rather complicated single pedal set up, with several analog parallel patches going on, through a lot of experimenting and a lt of thought going into it, just for my basic "clean" tone, so I should probably not expect and it is probably too much to ask of a relative generalized digital multi effect to be able to live up to that.
I just had hoped I could simplify it with this, but it just doesn't sound the same.
I am probably going to sell this off again, and invest in a couple of more single pedals, to complete my current setup.
It will be a hell to drag around with, but too much to ask from the Boss to live up to my rather specific requirements.
I just really liked the idea of a small compact unit doing it all, and I do love the fact that it allows for up to 3 parallel signal paths.
Ah, well, at least I got it to a good price, so I won't end up losing any money on it.
But I also think it's a matter of me having perfected a rather complicated single pedal set up, with several analog parallel patches going on, through a lot of experimenting and a lt of thought going into it, just for my basic "clean" tone, so I should probably not expect and it is probably too much to ask of a relative generalized digital multi effect to be able to live up to that.
I just had hoped I could simplify it with this, but it just doesn't sound the same.
I am probably going to sell this off again, and invest in a couple of more single pedals, to complete my current setup.
It will be a hell to drag around with, but too much to ask from the Boss to live up to my rather specific requirements.
I just really liked the idea of a small compact unit doing it all, and I do love the fact that it allows for up to 3 parallel signal paths.
Ah, well, at least I got it to a good price, so I won't end up losing any money on it.
I can't see giving me the option to chose reverb for the general modulation "FX" blocks.
The options I get from the drop down menu for those is various modulation and pitch shifter effects, no drives or reverbs.
How do you do that?
@Ritter667 You only get 1 reverb with it I'm afraid.
I'd give it chance, it's a very powerful device but there's just a few bits you need to get right. Getting your input levels right is vital I found, a good global eq can make a world of difference too.
It makes an excellent utility pedal, even if it can't replace your entire pedal board, it can do a lot to simplify it.
Out of curiosity what is your current board setup?
I'd give it chance, it's a very powerful device but there's just a few bits you need to get right. Getting your input levels right is vital I found, a good global eq can make a world of difference too.
It makes an excellent utility pedal, even if it can't replace your entire pedal board, it can do a lot to simplify it.
Out of curiosity what is your current board setup?
Like MrDinsale said the FX1/2/3 blocks do not have a reverb, it does do drives though. It's in the list, right after ''DEFRET B'' .
I have seen your pedal-board layout and I agree with you that it is probably too much to ask from a 'generalized digital multi effect' to replicate that! Well, it was worth the try : )
I have seen your pedal-board layout and I agree with you that it is probably too much to ask from a 'generalized digital multi effect' to replicate that! Well, it was worth the try : )
I have a HX Effects (it has one more 'block' than the eight on the Stomp) , here is my experience.
I want:
1 compressor
2 LPF on clean path
3 HPF on drive path (the cross-over on the signal-split is not flexible enough to my liking..)
4 of course the drive itself on the drive path
5 send/return for a secondary external drive
6 volume pedal
7 noise gate
8 'amp' block for DI to FOH
...and than I want a delay/reverb and a 'crazy'-effect... Eight blocks is not that much if you also want/need some 'utility effects' (1, 2, 3, 5, 6 and 7). If you want to plug in two instruments eight blocks does also seem not that much, for starters you need a fx-send/return block for the secondary input.
Ease of use: Something I really dislike on the HXFX/Stomp; the tap tempo and tuner function share the same foot-switch > to access the tuner HOLD the switch and WAIT until the tuner screen appears : (
Also, there is no compression-level indicator.
Still using the Boss GT Core : )
My current signal chain is listed on my forum profile.
As noted I still need to set up my modulation chain, which will be my analog phaser, flanger and tremolo pedals, which is the plan all will go in each their own respective effect loop of an EHX Tri Parallel Mixer that I still need to bye, and then towards the end of the chain an EHX Pico Deep Freez, that I also still need to buy, as well as my Boss RC-500 Loop Station, that I already own.
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Ahh ok, there's a lot of stuff going on there. As others have suggested though, its worth trying to approach it differently to how you might with actual pedals. You have the benefit with the core of using assigns to drastically change a blocks parameters etc.
If its not right for you though its not right.
If its not right for you though its not right.
An update:
I should maybe add that the SVT-212AV cab got a tweeter, so the NUX IR I use of it doesn't start to roll off high end steeply before around 7/8 or so kHz.
So essentially this is still a bi-amping sort of setup, mind an old fashioned kind, with no crossover as such, though I do have HPF engaged in the parametric EQ between the Orange guitar amp and cab, the cab doing it's part as well.
As well as the Joyo Oxford Sound, earlier in the chain, mixed with direct/"clean" signal, got a simple analog cab filter build in, that also rolls off some low end.
Very punchy and snappy tone, with a lot of zing, which of course partly is also thanks to the fact that I use the bridge J pickup of my bass soloed, as well as the bass it self inherently got a very growly clear character.
And by the way, the drives on this unit sounds great, albeit you can still hear that they are digital, there is just something too clean/hi-fi and predictable about them to be analog drives, now this isn't necessarily a bad thing, as said they do sound great, but personally I wouldn't use them without being blended or stacked with analog drive pedals.
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