Boss GT-1B discussion thread

[cheapbasslovin]

Thanks!

Can you revert/clear a U patch to previous preset? ie I have inadvertently renamed a U patch to blank name.... Forget what it was

I haven't noticed and P patches yet....?

Also, do you know what the 'librarian' list is for in tone central?

I don't remember an 'undo' function, but I know there's a 'reset' where you bring back all the factory stuff.

I didn't use tone central for most of my stuff. I was trying to do some relatively complex stuff with assigns and it seemed pretty unstable on my machine when I got crazy, so I didn't use it a ton. Other than saving patches to PC I don't think there was much in there you couldn't do from the button interface.

 

[Billyears IV]

Any patch that starts with a p cant be overwritten. Go past all of those until you get to the set with 'u' as the prefix and you can overwrite those

I can see both U and P now. That's clear now thanks

 

[Plain Old Barry]

Confused...

can anyone please point me to a tutorial on how to actually build/organise your own patch library?

Editing a patch is clear, but the saving options are not. I understood that the presets cannot be 'wiped'. So I assumed that when creating your own, they will be saved elsewhere? So you would build your own list of personal named patches, to be able to scroll/select?
This vid shows a patch 'selecting the destination to save' . But when the knob is turned it just scrolls through the sequence of presets? If you save it (yes you can rename), will the patch overwrite the preset?

So if a new patch is created, is it not being saved to 'librarian' in the tone central software? how do you give it a different label/number?

Thanks?

Each patch has to be written to the device from Tone Studio before you switch to another patch. When you select "write" you'll be prompted for the name and slot to write it to.

If you read the entire device into Tone Studio, you can save it to a new library for future use if needed.

If you're editing the patch from the face of the device, you must write it, either back over itself, or to a new slot before leaving the patch, or the edits will be lost and the patch will revert to what it was before editing.

 

[OldSchoolFlats]

It Tone Studio, you can drag/drop between your user patches and a backup.

 

[Billyears IV]

Each patch has to be written to the device from Tone Studio before you switch to another patch. When you select "write" you'll be prompted for the name and slot to write it to.

If you read the entire device into Tone Studio, you can save it to a new library for future use if needed.

If you're editing the patch from the face of the device, you must write it, either back over itself, or to a new slot before leaving the patch, or the edits will be lost and the patch will revert to what it was before editing.

Thanks again Barry

 

[Billyears IV]

It Tone Studio, you can drag/drop between your user patches and a backup.

Thanks, nice one

 

[Billyears IV]

Spent a good weekend with GT-1B and pleased I've (mostly) got the hang of CTRL 1 for parameters, assigns & utilizing the exp pedal, where desired. Still get muddled though.

Wish there were more vids on using the software though!?

Got a couple of other queries, if anyone has the time or inclination to respond...

1. tested playing live, using a 'blank' by pass patch, then switching with up arrow button to next patch, which I had assigned some OD. The change in levels was crazy, much too much!! I know can adjust parameters within the OD patch itself, to aim to not have such a jump in levels. I can also use the pedal for volume control.
I also see the patch level (knob 2) and out level (knob 3 ) on the unit. However, if I decrease the patch level of the OD, it does not seem to 'stick'? If I change up top another patch & then return to previous OD patch....The level is at the 'old' setting. Is there a way to fix this in units memory? I have tried pressing exit afterwards

I notice that if I make the same patch level adjustment with the Tone software & WRITE to the unit is DOES save the new patch level??

But there will be times in studio or stage soundcheck, where I just want to tweak a patch on the unit (wont have my laptop/software). How best to do quickly & save , if I am jumping from patch to patch ?


2. I had seen early on a menu somewhere for selecting things like active bass - passive etc. Cant find this anywhere now? How important is it to set this when switching from active to passive bass for example?

I do get a bit freaked there isn't a 'save' button on the unit, so you know any tweaks you have done are simply 'saved'. An undo button would be useful as well.

Its got great potential but I am surprised the operation & using software is taking so long! I guess I'm trying to absorb all at one, to assess whether to keep or return.

many thanks if anyone can shed some light on above !

Bill

 

[cheapbasslovin]

Press the two buttons below the 'write' text on the unit simultaneously and you'll start the save process. Hit enter two (3?) more times and you'll overwrite the patch with what you got.

I set up an external pedal (cntl2 and 3) to do the patch up and down functions and the left knob to do the same thing in the global settings. It freed up the board for doing effects on and off within a song. I don't know if this'll work for you, but it's an idea.

 

[Plain Old Barry]

Comments dispersed in red...

Spent a good weekend with GT-1B and pleased I've (mostly) got the hang of CTRL 1 for parameters, assigns & utilizing the exp pedal, where desired. Still get muddled though.

I notice that if I make the same patch level adjustment with the Tone software & WRITE to the unit is DOES save the new patch level?? Yes

But there will be times in studio or stage soundcheck, where I just want to tweak a patch on the unit (wont have my laptop/software). How best to do quickly & save , if I am jumping from patch to patch ? See the post above mine


2. I had seen early on a menu somewhere for selecting things like active bass - passive etc. Cant find this anywhere now? How important is it to set this when switching from active to passive bass for example?

That's in the preamp settings. It will depend upon the output level difference of your basses. I have two active basses and a bunch of passives. My two actives aren't especially hot compared to most of my others, so I don't change that setting much. Sometimes, changing the setting will change the overall sound of the patch, so don't necessarily think it has to match the bass type if you prefer one setting over another for a specific patch with a specific instrument.

I do get a bit freaked there isn't a 'save' button on the unit, so you know any tweaks you have done are simply 'saved'. An undo button would be useful as well. Undo is simply leaving the patch without saving, it will revert to pre-changes. You can also copy the same patch multiple times, make various tweaks, then compare them and keep the edit you like best.

Its got great potential but I am surprised the operation & using software is taking so long! I guess I'm trying to absorb all at one, to assess whether to keep or return.

many thanks if anyone can shed some light on above !

Bill

 

[Billyears IV]

Press the two buttons below the 'write' text on the unit simultaneously and you'll start the save process. Hit enter two (3?) more times and you'll overwrite the patch with what you got.

I set up an external pedal (cntl2 and 3) to do the patch up and down functions and the left knob to do the same thing in the global settings. It freed up the board for doing effects on and off within a song. I don't know if this'll work for you, but it's an idea.

Aha! Fantastic! Many thanks

 

[Billyears IV]

Comments dispersed in red...

Thanks for taking the time again Barry

 

[Billyears IV]

Hi guys,

anyone able to advise on best operation of the bass synth effect?

It's seems ultra sensitive to playing action..... Producing random blips of v high signal output. I'm following all advice of technique /string muting & playing slow & even. I'm trying variations of all the parameter controls sensitivity, levels, resonance etc..... Also tried adding compression & limiter..... It still plays v random & not really usable. Not got any other effects running.

I'm using a music man sterling with active humbucker.

Thanks for any tips

 

[Plain Old Barry]

I don't use that patch much, but have you set the input to "active"?

 

[Billyears IV]

I don't use that patch much, but have you set the input to "active"?

Where do I set that please ?

Not got my GT-1B with me atm

 

[Plain Old Barry]

Where do I set that please ?

Not got my GT-1B with me atm

Nevermind... I was thinking of the Bass Sim "active" settings, but you can adjust the input level of most patches to get the best results.

I don't use that particular patch much, but if you haven't already, check out page 8 of the GT-1B Parameter Guide for Synth setting descriptions. It might help.

 

[Billyears IV]

Nevermind... I was thinking of the Bass Sim "active" settings, but you can adjust the input level of most patches to get the best results.

I don't use that particular patch much, but if you haven't already, check out page 8 of the GT-1B Parameter Guide for Synth setting descriptions. It might help.

Thanks Barry. Yes, I wondered if you were referencing the bass sim.
I've certainly been through all manuals & any info I can find. I've tried a passive Fender, same issues.

I'm also using other combinations of effects to get decent synth sounds. So not a deal breaker. But I struggle to believe that this is how the bass synth is supposed to play/sound?

There's plenty I like about the GT-1B. Don't think it will replace all my pedals, but provides huge scope for discovering those extra tones, sounds & 'flavours'....

 

[OldSchoolFlats]

Thanks Barry. Yes, I wondered if you were referencing the bass sim.
I've certainly been through all manuals & any info I can find. I've tried a passive Fender, same issues.

I'm also using other combinations of effects to get decent synth sounds. So not a deal breaker. But I struggle to believe that this is how the bass synth is supposed to play/sound?

There's plenty I like about the GT-1B. Don't think it will replace all my pedals, but provides huge scope for discovering those extra tones, sounds & 'flavours'....

I assume you use round-wounds, with the EQ for mids and treble not cut all the way.

Flats don't work so well with effects like octave/synth.

 

[Plain Old Barry]

ut I struggle to believe that this is how the bass synth is supposed to play/sound?

I've never done much with that particular patch beyond "yup, there it is..." when I originally got the unit. There is a real possibility the patch could suck.

Have you ever tried one of the various Boss synth pedals? I haven't personally, but it would be an interesting comparison. The patch might work OK, but you may not like Boss' execution of a synth. With pedal preference being a personal thing, it's a thought.

I originally purchased my unit because I needed a Slow Gear. Slow Gear pedals have been out of production for a while, and used examples go for 100's of USD. Since I only needed the SG for two songs, I decided to give the GT-1B a shot, found a used-great example for $150. The Slow Gear was good enough for my live use. I eventually replaced my Phase 90, chorus, delay, volume pedal and reverb, as well as my headphone amp with the multi-unit. I still use external compression, a Q-Strip, distortion, and a bass graphic, mainly for quick and easy access to changes from bass to bass during a show, HPF, and XLR out.

 

[Billyears IV]

I've never done much with that particular patch beyond "yup, there it is..." when I originally got the unit. There is a real possibility the patch could suck.

Have you ever tried one of the various Boss synth pedals? I haven't personally, but it would be an interesting comparison. The patch might work OK, but you may not like Boss' execution of a synth. With pedal preference being a personal thing, it's a thought.

I originally purchased my unit because I needed a Slow Gear. Slow Gear pedals have been out of production for a while, and used examples go for 100's of USD. Since I only needed the SG for two songs, I decided to give the GT-1B a shot, found a used-great example for $150. The Slow Gear was good enough for my live use. I eventually replaced my Phase 90, chorus, delay, volume pedal and reverb, as well as my headphone amp with the multi-unit. I still use external compression, a Q-Strip, distortion, and a bass graphic, mainly for quick and easy access to changes from bass to bass during a show, HPF, and XLR out.

Interesting. I looked hard and was v close to buying a boss SY-1 synth pedal. But would have needed an expression pedal + footswitch to max the playability. Plus no way of storing presets. The cost of other more 'serious' synth pedals not justified.

I then came across the GT-1B, offering everything it does + patch building. No regrets, best decision and loving exploring its potential. I'm getting usable fun synth sounds, blending effects like chorus, t wah, hint of fuzz etc.

I'm always curious of quirky sounds to fill gaps in songs or intros. Dabbled a lot with ableton live, launching clips with foot pedals, launchkey. We have fair number of songs with bits of synth textures but we don't really need a full blown keys/synth player.

Thanks for your responses! Happy bass

 

[rafitoprtx]

Really impress with the Boss MT Distortion. Cuts Tru really well.