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Boss SY-1 Synth

Ok.... confirmed.....no pedal ever is going to be as good as a synth. All these seem like toys when I try them out for real. The boss , the c4....... doesn't matter. Midi keys and software is the cheapest and easiest way by far to have a good synth tone.

My 2 cents.

Get those key skills.

Very true!

But I want to play bass (and not have to cart yet another piece of gear to rehearsals and gigs - not all of us have roadies!) :D
 
Ok.... confirmed.....no pedal ever is going to be as good as a synth. All these seem like toys when I try them out for real. The boss , the c4....... doesn't matter. Midi keys and software is the cheapest and easiest way by far to have a good synth tone.

My 2 cents.

Get those key skills.
I don’t want to play keys, I just want to cop tones that are similar in certain settings. I bought the C4 because it does amazing filters and Octavers. I play in a Funk/Jazz band and it is perfect for me. It replaced 2 pedals, so basically paid for itself.
 
So people that own the sy1...

Can it do deep ultra saw wave type growls, can it do a high pitched sound higher than bass notes with the bass as input (ie guitar high e squeals), and can it do filter sweep / wave table morph type sounds... a lot of the guitar videos haven’t focused on that stuff and the bass videos focusing on lead sounds or other stuff.
 
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PB all set up with a SY-1 sized hole in it ready for filling!
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Roll on tomorrow :D
 
Loving this so far!

The Tone (Rate) knob adds a whole additional layer of variation to each of the 121 settings. As separately does the 'Depth' knob.

So there are probably more like 700 to 800 possible distinct sounds available from the SY-1, which is a fantastic amount of versatility. But given the tweak-ability of the pedal it won't take forever to work through and it will be fun, rather than a PITA doing it.

Given that we don't have presets on this (which is the single key advantage of the C4 and FI over this pedal), making notes is going to be key, certainly for me. Be great if we can devise an usable shorthand between us, maybe something on the lines of B4.6.3 = B(ass type) variation 4 with Tone dial at 6/10 and depth at 3/10?

I made a beeline for the Bass type this evening. With the dry dialled down and the wet fully engaged you can get some pretty speaker blowing DOD Meatbox emulations going - definitely :cool:
 
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Loving this so far!

The Tone (Rate) knob adds a whole additional layer of variation to each of the 121 settings. I'd say this inner dial gives more variation than the outer 'depth' ring which seems more like a 'fine' control whereas the Tone is more a 'coarse' control.

So there are probably more like 400 to 500 distinct sounds available from the SY-1, which is a fantastic amount of versatility. But given the tweak-ability of the pedal it won't take forever to work through and it will be fun, rather than a PITA doing it.

Given that we don't have presets on this (which is the single key advantage of the C4 and FI over this pedal), making notes is going to be key, certainly for me. Be great if we can devise an usable shorthand between us, I'd have thought? Something on the lines of B4.3 = Bass type variation 4 with Tone dial at 3/10?

I made a beeline for the Bass type this evening. With the dry dialled down and the wet fully engaged you can get some pretty speaker blowing DOD Meatbox emulations going - definitely :cool:
Awesome that’s what I want to hear... any saw type bass stuff? And do you use an expression pedal to sweep the tone ?
 
Just currently cycling through the core available sounds - should keep me out of mischief for a little while, so not tried with an expression pedal (yet!).

Interested by additional loop that this has and the ability to use the send output to bifurcate the output.

Good Q about the saw type etc. There's no info in the short SY-1 manual about the underlying synth engine, but if we assume it's pretty much going to be the same as the SY-300 that gives another source of information. Checking out what the synth tech is in the SY-300, I've gleaned the following online:

...the SY-300 uses oscillators and filters to create unique tones. Oscillators create waveforms like saw waves, sine waves, triangle waves, etc., which modify your guitar signal (from your regular pickup) to produce synth style sounds. Filters are used to further shape the resulting wave, and from there you can add effects like reverb, slicer, distortion, etc.

The oscillator waveforms include the usual pulse, triangle, sine, sawtooth, and noise waves used in basic analogue synthesis but there’s an extra Sharpness control available when noise is selected that puts the noise through a tracking filter to give it a sense of pitch.