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Boss SY-1 Synth

I've bitten the bullet and pre-ordered the SY-1 from PMT.

Normally we get hit in the UK with $1 = £1 on US manufactured goods and it's currently even worse with the Source Audio C4 $239 in the US but £249 in the UK.

I kinda wanted to get my payment in before Boss spot that they are not selling at $ parity ($199) in the UK. The SY-1 is on at a relatively 'reasonable' £175 over here at the moment, but if the £ continues to slide that may not last!

Taking a bit of a chance given that I've not heard any decent bass reviews of this yet, but PMT have a 14 day return for online purchases, in case it does turn out to be a dud on bass which I'm really hoping / expecting it not to be!

Hi Mate, have PMT given you an estimated shipping date? I ordered a couple of weeks ago but with Rimmers Music, got it for £150 (I think they made a mistake on thier website as it's back up to 175 now). As far as I can tell There's only Andertons that are putting the estimated availability dates up. Just wondering if any will be in the wild before the end of August.
 
Hi Mate, have PMT given you an estimated shipping date? I ordered a couple of weeks ago but with Rimmers Music, got it for £150 (I think they made a mistake on thier website as it's back up to 175 now). As far as I can tell There's only Andertons that are putting the estimated availability dates up. Just wondering if any will be in the wild before the end of August.
That's a good result getting your pedal for £150!
No estimated time of delivery, although when I spoke to them they did say they "thought" they might be getting some more stock in at the beginning of August. I'm not holding my breath though!
 
Glad to hear yours is on the way. The polyphony is great, probably better to keep it simple or in the higher registers on bass. Tracking is fine I was playing Human League earlier and there's a quick run down after the synth riff, sounded fine. But don't expect Darude Sandstorm. Best played with a pick or fingernails. I put a compressor at the front, which is good for sustaining the pads patches. And a fuzz pedal gave me some beasty tones too. Didn't bother with the send and return loop.
 

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A little bit of synth history (well my sawtooth take it on it anyway:)) ...

Started delving into this side topic when finding myself surprised that retailers can still price the 2004 released Boss SYB-5 for up to $180 new, when the vastly more capable new SY-1 model is about to hit the shelves at $199. It's predecessor, the SYB-3, was released in 1996.

I'm a little tempted to pick up a SYB-5 (used of course!) just to compare how the tech has improved in the intervening 11 years. Yup that's not me being bad at sums - but based on the assumption that the SY-1 is a repackaged and cut down version of the polyphonic SY-300 which came out in Autumn 2015 as a belated response to the much admired 2011 Roland GR 55.

Moving into more recent times, the Panda Future Impact came out in hard on the heels of the Boss SY-300 in the summer of 2016, as a successor to the 9 preset Akai Deep Impact. The Akai was released and pulled relatively quickly in the mid 1990s but got itself a bit of a cult following resulting in stratospheric prices which are belatedly coming back down to earth. The FI with its synthesizer blocks of oscillators, filters and envelope generators and 99 presets pretty much became top dog until...last month and the July 2019 release of the Source Audio C4.

Along the way we have had the initially popular Markbass SuperSynth which was released in 2009 and with minor cosmetic changes made in a v2 released in 2015, but was somewhat done for by the arrival of the FI; the quirky 2017 Bananana Matryoshka which we loved but found hard to get many gigable sounds from and two 2018 releases: the Pigtronix Mothership 2 which provided us with a small footprint attractive form factor analog synth but never really captured the hearts of us bassists; and the 2018 Meris Enzo which seemed to hold a fair bit of promise but requires midi to get the best out of and seems already at risk of being eclipsed by the C4.

In hindsight 2015, with the arrival of the Boss SY-300, heralded a new era of development and competition between pedal makers in the synth arena and without doubt now is a great time to be getting into bass synths!
 
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I would've loved an SY-300 but it's way out of my budget! I tried all the EHX 9 series pedals at a music shop and bought the C9 organ pedal.about 200 quid and I thought that was steep for what it is.. But just about acceptable. Came with 9 organ sounds... Well, sold it for the same amount of cash I picked up the SY-1 for and that comes with 11 organ sounds, plus the rest.

Just uploaded another video, it's probably a little boring to watch but I'm exploring some of the different modes on it. I think Boss have nailed it.
 
That sounds pretty solid for a phone recording. I'm really interested to hear some direct recordings of bass to see how fat things sound in a mix.
I was playing around with the bass but had the pedal in guitar mode and it was throwing out some crazy sub octaves, will be great when I get my drummer round for some drum and bass. I might get some direct recording done over the weekend when I have more time but hope the phone recordings translates well. It's obviously not as great as coming from my amp. I'm playing through a Fender rumble 500 with the eq fairly flat if that helps.
 
A little bit of synth history (well my sawtooth take it on it anyway:)) ...

Started delving into this topic when finding myself surprised that retailers can still price the 2004 released Boss SYB-5 for up to $180 new, when the vastly more capable new SY-1 model is about to hit the shelves at $199. It's predecessor, the SYB-3, was released in 1996.

I'm a little tempted to pick up a SYB-5 (used of course!) just to compare how the tech has improved in the intervening 11 years. Yup that's not me being bad at sums - but based on the assumption that the SY-1 is a repackaged and cut down version of the polyphonic SY-300 which came out in Autumn 2015 as a belated response to the much admired 2011 Roland GR 55.

Moving into more recent times, the Panda Future Impact came out in hard on the heels of the Boss SY-300 in the summer of 2016, as a successor to 9 preset Akai Deep Impact. The Akai was released and pulled relatively quickly in the mid 1990s but got itself a bit of a cult following resulting in stratospheric prices which are belatedly coming back down to earth. The FI with its synthesizer blocks of oscillators, filters and envelope generators and 99 presets pretty much became top dog until...last month and the July 2019 release of the Source Audio C4.

Along the way we have had the initially popular Markbass SuperSynth which was released in 2009 and with minor cosmetic changes made in a v2 released in 2015, but was somewhat done for by the arrival of the FI; the quirky 2017 Bananana Matryoshka which we loved but found hard to get many gigable sounds from and two 2018 releases: the Pigtronix Mothership 2 which provided us a small footprint attractive form factor analog synth but never really captured the hearts of us bassists; and the 2018 Meris Enzo which seemed to hold a fair bit of promise but requires midi to get the best out but and seems already at risk of being eclipsed by the C4.

In hindsight, 2015 with the arrival of the Boss SY-300 heralded a new era of development and competition between pedal makers in the synth arena and without doubt now is a great time to be getting into bass synths!

You forgot the digitech dirty robot... although lacking in volume cos if it’s single wet/dry blend, it got my attention with a lot of parameters for controlling chorus / flanger, filter pitch sweep start and stop as well as the time of the sweep start and stop plus the vocal dormant filter.. maybe nowhere near as crazy but as a lot of other synths but does some good classic sounds and good controllable long filter sweeps without another pedal needed.
 
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You forgot the digitech dirty robot... although lacking in volume cos if it’s single wet/dry blend, it got my attention with a lot of parameters for controlling chorus / flanger, filter pitch sweep start and stop as well as the time of the sweep start and stop plus the vocal dormant filter.. maybe nowhere near as crazy but as a lot of other synths but does some good classic sounds and good controllable long filter sweeps without another pedal needed.

Not sure why the Dirty Robot doesn't get as much attention, particularly as it is so reasonably priced and reviews suggest it has great tracking! (You've now got me really interested in getting one!)

Some comments on the net suggest that that the Dirty Robot is in fact a repackaged (2004?) Digitech Bass Synth Wah, which is actually an envelope filter rather than a synth?

Following on from that, more generally, is it therefore 'correct' to leave the 2016 Dirty Robot, the 2017 polyphonic EHX Synth 9 and the more budget 2019 EHX mono synth off a 'synth history list' as they are all 'synth emulations' akin to what is being provided (not particularly well) by the HX Stomp and don't have actual synth oscillators under their bonnets?
 
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Not sure why the Dirty Robot doesn't get as much attention, particularly as it is so reasonably priced and reviews suggest it has great tracking! (You've now got me really interested in getting one!)

Some comments on the net suggest that that the Dirty Robot is in fact a repackaged (2004?) Digitech Bass Synth Wah, which is actually an envelope filter rather than a synth?

Following on from that, more generally, is it therefore 'correct' to leave the 2016 Dirty Robot, the 2017 polyphonic EHX Synth 9 and the more budget 2019 EHX mono synth off a 'synth history list' as they are all 'synth emulations' akin to what is being provided (not particularly well) by the HX Stomp and don't have actual synth oscillators under their bonnets?

When you put it like that, fair enough, although the dirty robot always has a bit of square wave something in there but I guess is more filter and other effects to get “synth emulation”
 
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