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Boss's answer to korg pitch black?

#41
FreaqyFrequency said:
1) I think there will be several long-time owners of Boss effects here who will disagree with your implication about lack of quality.

2) You're also implying that not having true bypass means that it isn't professional, or that it's somehow inferior. If you have missed all the citations to links regarding true bypass in this subforum, do yourself a favor and search google for "True Bypass myths".

Better yet, I'll save you the trouble.

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Listen carefully to his words. His system overcomes signal loss due to long cables. This can be an issue with passive instruments (most guitars and some basses) but should not be an issue with an active bass.
 
#42
Waxhead said:
hey Freaqy - I come from a guitar playing background and I've been using pedals n tube amps for over 30 years. I've used more pedals than most people have had hot dinners. With all due respect bass forums are not a fountain of knowledge on pedals n effects cause bass players use very few compared to guitarists.

www.thegearpage.com is where the pedal geeks hang out.

Don't really care what the Boss fanboys here think. I've heard it all before and I've owned many. Still have 4 and a GT-8 in a box. Most people who know a lot about pedals these days think that Boss' glory days are now ancient history. They've simply been left for dead the past 10 yrs by many other pedal makers who now make far superior products for the same price, or cheaper. As a result you see less and less Boss pedals on the boards of gigging players.

And no - I'm not suggesting every pedal on a board should be true bypass. You need a few good quality bufferred one's on a board with more than 6 pedals. What I'm saying is that the TU-2, like most other Boss pedals, is a well known tone sucker. They're tone suckers because most are fitted with poor quality buffers and they don't make a single true bypass pedal. People accepted this crap 10 yrs ago cause that's all there was. Times have changed but Boss has not. High quality tuner pedals are now true bypass - like the Strobostomp and the Turbo are.
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My final post on the subject today. I went to Link Removed site and looked up where effect pedals are discussed. In a thread started today, a poster asked for opinions on the best tuner. There are 8 responses as of this minute and 4 of them have the Pitchblack as their preferred tuner. One post mentioned the TU and trashed it.

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#44
Ran across this thread.

I'm a Gear Pager as well as a Talk Basser (Bipolar :D). I was a member of Talk Bass way back in the begining, got tired and left, came back, left again for a number of years and here I is again. :bawl::D

First off let me start by saying I have played guitar and bass for 35+ years. While I have a good deal of experience, mostly that just makes me old and fat. :D

I have used a number of Boss Pedals through the years and I owe Boss a debt for those pedals. I do not want to trash Boss at all. There are however many pedals out there that are far superior these days.

In the last year I have taken up playing Upright Bass and for some reason my handy ol TU-2 does not like it. I have a very nice Bass and use a Realist pickup into an Fdeck Pre then into my Tuner. For what ever reason my TU-2 gets confused by the UB and tracks very slow. Now that being said it has been around the block. Perhaps it has seen better days.

I have used the Peterson, the Turbo Tuner, the TU-2, and the Pitch Black. So far for me I prefer the Pitch Black. I do not like the Peterson at all. The Turbo is great but on really bright days I can not see it. Not sure if I could tell the difference between 1 cent, .1 cent, and .02 cent but I sure can tell a big difference in how much better the Pitch Black works over the TU-2.

Also for some reason with my UB the TU-2 seems to be a tone sucker when not being used. I do not notice this with EB but it is a mjor problem with my UB.

All that being said I have not tried the TU-3.:D

For buffers, there are many tiny buffer units out there that are far better.

Compare a Fulltone OCD to any Boss overdrive. Night and day IMO.
 
#46
Waxhead said:
hey Freaqy - I come from a guitar playing background and I've been using pedals n tube amps for over 30 years. I've used more pedals than most people have had hot dinners. With all due respect bass forums are not a fountain of knowledge on pedals n effects cause bass players use very few compared to guitarists.
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With all due respect... I really don't think so. I hang a little on TGP and I'll put TB's peddle geeks up against TPG any day of the week.

:bassist:
 
#51
I use a crappy Korg tuner that cost me £5. =P I'd love to spend £150 on something fancy with flashing lights and accurate tuning... But seriously... I sound fine on stage when tuning with something that didn't cost me an arm and a leg... So I'm not rushing into something fancy any time soon. =P
 
#54
i will also buy a new tuner soon, but the Boss tuners are not even in my prefered choice list, i will get one of those:

- Sonic Research ST-200 Turbo Tuner
- TC Electronic Polytune
- Korg Pitchblack

I think i will go for the Polytune ... i already use their iPhone app ... great!
 
#58
Jazz Ad said:
They do honest to God, well built products and don't try to jump onto the latest fashion trend, which may explain their longevity.
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I love my Tech 21 preamp/DI stuff and some other boutique companies effects, usually avoiding Boss on their regular effects.

But I just got their Slicer pedal and it works awesome with my Micron Synth, and I feel I couldn't live without their remake of the Space Echo - I love that thing to death, especially with my Ric.

I feel that it was unlike Boss to design those two pedals, and pretty cool.
 
#59
I got a Pitchblack yesterday for $47.60 (after $20 Korg rebate), shipped, with a free power supply.

It's about worth that. Small, easy to see and presumably hard to break. That's about all you can ask from a tuner.

People on gear forums believe some of the most wildly deluded stuff about tuners and tuning, and are happy in their folly. I've given up on trying to straighten them out. :rollno:

Interesting experiment the other night, though -- lined up all the tuners in the crib from $4.99 GC specials to rack units, and generated a 440Hz reference signal through them. Every one was dead-on.
 

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