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Brian Bromberg Carvin Model Part 2

Grateful said:
Preamp update.

I contacted the factory directly, and they are apparently sending me a release version of the preamp, and I will return the one that is in there.

Carvin customer service rules!

Superb! Awaiting your first impressions of the preamp. I didn't think Carvin would leave a customer hanging. Now if they'd only do block inlays on maple board, I'd buy another B24 right now. I will put my money where my mouth is. Call my bluff Carvin, I dare you.
 
Hi, guys,

It's one in the morning and I just got done reading both threads about the B2 basses. I'm looking for a new bass. I play an old Hagstrom "Cromwel" bass from the '60's and a P-bass clone with TI Flats that weighs two tons but sounds like Duck Dunn. I'm looking for a bass that is light or doesn't neck dive on a strap, plays like greased lightning and allows me to get a lot of sounds out of it.

We had a big music fest in town last weekend and I kept seeing MM Bongo Basses in quite a few bands. So I started reseaching them. But I pulled out a Carvin catalog and got drawn to the B24. Same price as a Bongo, but with a lot of options I like. It sounds like the perfect bass for me. But I still need to get some of those lowdown P-Bass kind of tones. With the right wood and strings (I was thinking of half-rounds rather then flats) do you think I could get something close with a B24? As far as woods go, I was thinking of quilt maple top, alder sides, maple (or maple-walnut five piece) neck and a rosewood fingerboard. Other suggestions?

I'm a real basic bassist and I don't play a lot of fancy licks. I like to play country-rock/american roots, reggae and world-grooves.

Thanks in advance for your insights and suggestions!
 
Hi, guys,

It's one in the morning and I just got done reading both threads about the B2 basses. I'm looking for a new bass. I play an old Hagstrom "Cromwel" bass from the '60's and a P-bass clone with TI Flats that weighs two tons but sounds like Duck Dunn. I'm looking for a bass that is light or doesn't neck dive on a strap, plays like greased lightning and allows me to get a lot of sounds out of it.

We had a big music fest in town last weekend and I kept seeing MM Bongo Basses in quite a few bands. So I started reseaching them. But I pulled out a Carvin catalog and got drawn to the B24. Same price as a Bongo, but with a lot of options I like. It sounds like the perfect bass for me. But I still need to get some of those lowdown P-Bass kind of tones. With the right wood and strings (I was thinking of half-rounds rather then flats) do you think I could get something close with a B24? As far as woods go, I was thinking of quilt maple top, alder sides, maple (or maple-walnut five piece) neck and a rosewood fingerboard. Other suggestions?

I'm a real basic bassist and I don't play a lot of fancy licks. I like to play country-rock/american roots, reggae and world-grooves.

Thanks in advance for your insights and suggestions!

Sounds like you're looking for something a bit more old school. I'm surprised you haven't had a look into passive B40s and SB4000s; with flats, I'd think that would fit the bill. But agreed, the Bromberg is light with a pretty user-friendly neck. Perhaps you should consider the B24S, the Bromberg minus the fancy top but equipped with the heavy duty locking bridge found on the B40 and SB4000. That model with some flats, EQ set mostly flat with a wee bit more emphasis on the neck pickup and you might get in the neighborhood of Duck Dunn.
 
lucas vigor said:
yep. I played one at the Carvin store. it is a high tech, modern sounding shredding machine. Not my first choice for old-school tones. Get the SB or B40/B50 series. It has both old and new sounds, is active, but has a passive tone.

I did a live recording with my band Sunday and it sounds nothing like your description. I will post it tonight.
 
yep. I played one at the Carvin store. it is a high tech, modern sounding shredding machine. Not my first choice for old-school tones. Get the SB or B40/B50 series. It has both old and new sounds, is active, but has a passive tone.

I don't have a bunch of time on the B24, but the time I did have on one showed me that the preamp can really change the voice of this instrument a lot. I was able to get a kind of thumpy, warm tone with it. Again, though, this is based on just a few minutes of play time, so I'm far from an expert on the Bromberg series.
 
yep. I played one at the Carvin store. it is a high tech, modern sounding shredding machine. Not my first choice for old-school tones. Get the SB or B40/B50 series. It has both old and new sounds, is active, but has a passive tone.

Chances are that if someone just grabbed one and played it flat, they might walk away with that impression. The reality is that messing with the preamp yields an impressive array of tones, including nice and warm.
 
Sure, you can use any bass for any style of music....but some fit the bill better then others. For example, if I am playing in a blues band, my p-bass with flats sounded infinitely better then when I played my musicam sterling.

The poster is coming from a background playing a hagstrom, of all things. That's a very different bass then a Bromberg.

So people, don't get your panties in a twist thinking I am attacking the Bromberg. I am a strong carvin supporter, and came this close to getting the Bromberg, but got the B50 instead. It's my second carvin. I also own an LB76 which I would never use to get old school tones either.
 
Chances are that if someone just grabbed one and played it flat, they might walk away with that impression. The reality is that messing with the preamp yields an impressive array of tones, including nice and warm.

I agree. But from what pablomago described in his post, he's really going for an old school, Duck Dunn, tone. With some flat wound strings and a little preamp tweaking, I'm sure he could come close. However, I think the Bromberg models may be overkill for what's he's going for tonally. A passive B40 or SB4000 seems to make more sense. However he also mentioned wanting a lighter instrument and in this, the Brombergs fit the bill.
 
Chances are that if someone just grabbed one and played it flat, they might walk away with that impression. The reality is that messing with the preamp yields an impressive array of tones, including nice and warm.

I own and love my B24S and can get some nice vintage vibe out of it with some effort. But why fuss with an active preamp and the additional expense of a B24 if you can just about nail it with ease with a B40 or B4000 and save a few bucks on top of that? If this is really about weight, talk to a sales person and see what they can do for you. Chances are even a portly SB4000 will still be lighter than what he’s currently playing.
 
yep. I played one at the Carvin store. it is a high tech, modern sounding shredding machine.

Totally describes mine.

I did a live recording with my band Sunday and it sounds nothing like your description.

As you already know, with different strings and technique, old school/thump city can be easily achieved.
 
So people, don't get your panties in a twist thinking I am attacking the Bromberg. I am a strong carvin supporter, and came this close to getting the Bromberg, but got the B50 instead. It's my second carvin. I also own an LB76 which I would never use to get old school tones either.

I don't think anyone sees it as an attack or is experiencing panty-bunching. It's more a matter of clarifying that the Bromberg is capable of many tones other than being a modern sounding shred machine. It sounds great with flats, but I wouldn't exactly call it Vintage...

I agree. But from what pablomago described in his post, he's really going for an old school, Duck Dunn, tone. With some flat wound strings and a little preamp tweaking, I'm sure he could come close. However, I think the Bromberg models may be overkill for what's he's going for tonally. A passive B40 or SB4000 seems to make more sense. However he also mentioned wanting a lighter instrument and in this, the Brombergs fit the bill.

Technically, going for the Dunn tone requires a P-Bass, LaBellas and an SVT....But a passive B40 would indeed be a great choice!

If this is really about weight, talk to a sales person and see what they can do for you. Chances are even a portly SB4000 will still be lighter than what he’s currently playing.

My B50's are both under 8.5 pounds (one ash, one alder). My SB and B25 are both in the 9's.
 
My B50's are both under 8.5 pounds (one ash, one alder). My SB and B25 are both in the 9's.

I always presumed the B40/B50s were lighter than the SB line. I also have always suspected that the heavyweight rep of the SB line might be a little inflated. Either bass in passive mode with flats would likely come a lot closer to Duck Dunn tone than the Bromberg.

But still love my B24S!!!
 

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