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Double Bass Bromberg/Lemur

#44
Yes the bolt is a quick fix, that is what Lisa said, but I had only a few days to get my bass fixed before an important gig. I will tell you that after she bolted the neck back on my bass it roared like never before. All of these years of making records and the neck of my bass was never really attached to the instrument!! Oh well........I think it`s cool in here. It`s really nice to see and hear what the real world has to say and think, even if they tear you a new $%&''$%! Thanks for the compliment Ken, NAMM it is ....................Brian
 
#45
Talkbass is funny that way... we can be very sarcastic, critical, and smartassed. However, it is tongue in cheek, (usually :rolleyes: ), there is a constant respect, and as the great Red Green once said "We're all in this together... I'm pulling for ya."

Hope you can stick around and post occasionally.
 
#49
LM Bass said:
Sounds like this one is all sorted out.
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Oh, not by a damn sight. We are just getting started. Please someone tell me they had the same reaction as I did when I saw that Lemur add: C'mon, how tacky is that? I thought we were immune to this sort of crass marketing in the double bass world. Lemur, shame on you for attempting to sell product in this manner. "Hey kids - wanna look and sound like Brian Bromberg? Now you can play a bass just like his!!!! And for only..." This is not a "Brian Bromberg Bass" or the "Wood Bass". What about the guy who made the bass, what's his name? I am aware that artists endorsing products is nothing new, but this is downright queer. And you can be damn sure the price is significnantly higher than that of a similar instrument with nobody's name on it. So they copied the dimensions. Now the thing's got some mojo? I doubt it. I would not as long as I live buy a "Wood Bass" on principal. Or for that matter a (God forbid) Pattitucci Bass or a Scott Colley Bass or even a Ray Brown Bass or any bass named after a famous player or one of his famous recordings. Especially if I liked the player or recording.

Where the hell is Ed, anyway?
 
#50
(Artie Lange mode ON)

"Waaaaaahhhhh, I don't sound like Brian Bromberg when I play the Wood bass! Waaaaahhhhhh! I don't like advertising! Waaaaahhhhhhh!"

(Artie Lange mode OFF)

I think there are much bigger issues in the world, you know? Plus what do you expect? Do you expect them to say it blows? I could see that ad campaign:

"The Wood Bass was built to Brian Bromberg's specs, but you'll never sound like him in a million years."

Ya, that would sell a lot of basses ;)
 
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gomez hacienda said:
What about all the kids that spent $100 on 'Air-Jordan' basketball shoes? or adults that buy Tiger Woods golfballs?

gomez
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I never said it doesn't exist in other realms and even in many areas of the music business. But I am not aware of this Lemurberg type of scheme ever occuring before now with our beloved instrument and I regret to see this kind of shameless advertising ploy tainting our noble landscape. The Double Bass world is by and large not spoiled by all this media/marketing crap (until now) and that is part of the mystique that is appealing to me about it. I am talking just about instruments, now.

I am not trying to start a war and you can all tell me it's inevitable, don't waste your time worrying about it, yadda yadda. I was just hoping I could get an "Amen" from SOMEBODY...

anybody?
 
#53
Sorry, but I don't see this as any different from a maker or merchant calling his bass a "Testore" or "Rossi" or whatever, simply because the outline is similar. Musicians are incredibly conservative in their instrument choices, and modeling basses after successful ones is a time-honored tradition that appeals to their comfort zone. That said, it would be misleading to advertise in a way that implies, "Buying our Testore copy will help you sound like the great 19th century bassist Bottesini".
 
#56
arnoldschnitzer said:
Sorry, but I don't see this as any different from a maker or merchant calling his bass a "Testore" or "Rossi" or whatever, simply because the outline is similar. Musicians are incredibly conservative in their instrument choices, and modeling basses after successful ones is a time-honored tradition that appeals to their comfort zone. That said, it would be misleading to advertise in a way that implies, "Buying our Testore copy will help you sound like the great 19th century bassist Bottesini".
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Right. I think you are making my point for me, and correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Testore and Rossi bass MAKERS, wheras Bottesini was obviously a bass PLAYER (and composer). I don't recall ever seeing any "Bottesini Bass" or "Elegy in D Major Bass"
 
#58
T-Bal said:
Right. I think you are making my point for me, and correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Testore and Rossi bass MAKERS, wheras Bottesini was obviously a bass PLAYER (and composer). I don't recall ever seeing any "Bottesini Bass" or "Elegy in D Major Bass"
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In my NEMC catalog there is a Wm Lewis "Bottesini" Bass for $5329.
 
#59
T-Bal said:
I never said it doesn't exist in other realms and even in many areas of the music business. But I am not aware of this Lemurberg type of scheme ever occuring before now with our beloved instrument and I regret to see this kind of shameless advertising ploy tainting our noble landscape. The Double Bass world is by and large not spoiled by all this media/marketing crap (until now)
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I guess you've never been on Ebay or been to Sam Ash.
 
#60
T-Bal, you have totally misunderstood the whole reason and point of doing this project. How many thousand's of Strad copy violins are there in the world today? And why are there so many? The whole point of this project is to replicate a very special and unique instrument and make it avalible for the bass playing world. The basses are hand carved by some of the most respected and succsessful modern luthiers of our time. The 300 year old Guersam Italian bass that they are replicating has very unique domensions and wood thickness then any other bass that the Lemur people have seen before. If that helps make these basses good instruments and hopefully sound great, then what's wrong with that?

The only intention here is to try and make great basses by very talented makers and bring them to the bass playing world at a price that they can afford. Most people can't pay $100,000 or more for an old Italian bass. If we can try and replicate that kind of instrument as well as honoring the orignal luthier's magic, then we have done what we set out to do and hopefully many bassists will like the instruments and want to play them.

Try and look at the big picture here and understand the meaning behind the project. If the bass is not for you or you don't understand why we are doing it, then don't buy the bass. Play what's right for you, just don't judge the basses, the people involved with the project, or the players who do like them and want to buy them for themselves. I guess when the basses are built we will see how they are................Brian
 

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