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Brubaker Brute Club
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pablomigraine
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I've decided not to wait for the SC Brutes and just order a 5 string now. I left a message for Kevin on an unrelated matter earlier today, when he calls back I'm going to see about having the regular Brubaker-Spec Barts installed as an upgrade. Maybe I will get a 6-string SC when they're ready.
When you say "regular spec barts," are you talking J's or the XXP25 quad coils. That would be something to have it set up with quad coils. I was wondering if the routing would accommodate them as-is. I have a tech that I'd totally trust to do the change-over.
Little bit of modding going on there, huh?
Looks good!
Yeah, a few mods
It started life as a JJX, but is now an MJX complete with SGD pickups and an EMG preamp. Since this picture was taken I put a Hipshot bridge on it. I'm always on the lookout for a deal on flamed wood pickguard too, I just can't justify paying full price for one on this bass
A SC with a pick guard? Hard for me to imagine
Im afraid that would be a deal-killer for me.
There is a picture of the singlecut prototype on a different thread , no pickgaurd . I think they are going to be in a satin finish ,but no one is sure.
pablomigraine
Commercial User
The Quads.... Hoping Kevin will just install prior to delivery. Haven't gotten the word back yet.
No PG on the SC.
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I'd be willing to bet that a Brute with the quad coils and electronics that go in the standard, custom and extreme basses would be an absolute killer bass. The qauds that kevin uses I thnk have an x at the model #, indicating that they're bright or something to that affect. or is it effect??? I also beleive the Brutes are routed to accomodate the quad coill installs. You would just need to twaek the picguard. Kevin could prbably make a pickguard. From a business standpoint I wouldn't want to do too many of these as it would hurt my high end business.
The basses themselves are not routed for anything...it's like the wide open plains in there. You could put 5 Music Man pickups in there if you want. It's all in the pickguard!
Well, I just stumbled across some Brute history that I was unaware of...it's probably all in various threads, but I thought may be of interest to anyone else who didn't know. I had been under the impression the Brute conceptually followed the MVP (of which I'm only aware of one).
I wasn't aware of the original NBP. I think the NBP name is in the process of being re-used for the upcoming 'Precision' model. But the NBP from 2004-5 (apparently New Bobdy Pickguard) seems to have the larger part of the lineage of the Brute. I see a couple of 2006 builds were sold by Jivesound.
While the MVP was/is a full/extreme custom build, again, with only one example that I know of, the NBP was build as a lower cost option. A $1,500 price range was mentioned early on. I saw an old classified post with a price of $1,650 and a claim that it "would be $3,000 new." I also saw that one sold on ebay for $900.
Here's an unlinked page that's still online (I'm calling it "unlinked" - I don't see how to get to it from the home page)
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
I wonder how many of these are floating around...
If Kevin's number system is by model, at least 14 were made in 2006.
I wasn't aware of the original NBP. I think the NBP name is in the process of being re-used for the upcoming 'Precision' model. But the NBP from 2004-5 (apparently New Bobdy Pickguard) seems to have the larger part of the lineage of the Brute. I see a couple of 2006 builds were sold by Jivesound.
While the MVP was/is a full/extreme custom build, again, with only one example that I know of, the NBP was build as a lower cost option. A $1,500 price range was mentioned early on. I saw an old classified post with a price of $1,650 and a claim that it "would be $3,000 new." I also saw that one sold on ebay for $900.
Here's an unlinked page that's still online (I'm calling it "unlinked" - I don't see how to get to it from the home page)
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
I wonder how many of these are floating around...
If Kevin's number system is by model, at least 14 were made in 2006.
Well i let my new bass set all night to let the neck settle , then played around with it this morning. i couldn't quite get the G string as low as I like and the bridge saddle was all the way down. I was able to fix this by removing the saddle and taking some material off the flat side then reinstalling it. i do however like my action stupid low.but in comparison to my other one it seems like the neck is a little deeper into the body on the new one . which results in less open space under the bridge saddles. I'm not complaining just comparing. In this case apples to apples. so my findings are as follows the fingerboard has more radius to it and the neck is set deeper into the body.Fret work is on par with the earlier model but needed a little dressing up on the fret edge. to me it's no big deal i know how to take care of this on my own.In the area of playability i am liking the new one better seems faster to me on the fretboard.I am really liking the tone of the new design pickups but still seem to be favoring the neck pickup slightly or dead center, if I roll onto the bridge pickup i boost the bass to 3/4 and keep the treble at the center detent, and I can get that burpy jazz tone. comparing the neck to bridge pickup the neck is really full and deep , the bridge pickup is a little thin in comparison.i will need to take the PG off and swap the bass and treble they are reversed in comparison to my other one and want to keep them the same.
Could be that one has more of a stock shim under the neck than the other. Based on the shimming I found under mine.
my original one has no shim under the neck, this one may or may not I haven't removed the neck. so I don't really know . it is not a problem I have the action where I want it and it was an easy fix , there again not really complaining.
I've thought about taking a bit off of the bottom of the saddles also. I've had to do it on other basses for optimal adjustability.
- Jun 3, 2009
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I always caution people with sick low action that there is such thing as too low. You still have to consider the physics of string vibration. I've had some guys come to me and complain about basses they couldn't get "low" (not talking Brutes here) only to find that they were trying to get the strings basically a nanometer above the fretboard without any buzz, and they were complaining about lack of sound or loudness.
Now, I don't necessarily say that low action is bad, but every maker has a factory/recommended string height. Its based on the optimum design and allowing the string to properly vibrate in the pickup field.
Personally, I've never quite understood the desire to get really low action. While it may assist with speed a little, I'd love someone to enlighten me on what the benefits are to them.
As for the Brutes, so far I haven't had to do any tweaking other then adjust one saddle for slight intonation (it was on but not perfect and I managed to get it perfect) and one half turn for string height on the D string. Kevin sets them ALL up before they get shipped.
Now, I don't necessarily say that low action is bad, but every maker has a factory/recommended string height. Its based on the optimum design and allowing the string to properly vibrate in the pickup field.
Personally, I've never quite understood the desire to get really low action. While it may assist with speed a little, I'd love someone to enlighten me on what the benefits are to them.
As for the Brutes, so far I haven't had to do any tweaking other then adjust one saddle for slight intonation (it was on but not perfect and I managed to get it perfect) and one half turn for string height on the D string. Kevin sets them ALL up before they get shipped.
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