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Bruno Mars/RHCP *POLL*- Play Syncing! Where Do You Stand
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anyone who thinks a production that large is setup and torn down that quickly and pulled off (almost everytime) without a hitch is deluded or naive.
sometimes i think we forget that music is just entertainment. at least in an instance like the superbowl.
sometimes i think we forget that music is just entertainment. at least in an instance like the superbowl.
I see this like a music video, the halftime show is essentially a show. I would do what RHCP did though, go unplugged! Show everyone who cares that I am not actually playing, but for everybody else..enjoy!
IMO, choosing to say "No" to super bowl exposure in the name of not playing live is an amateur decision.
Would have been cooler if the video was played on a big screen and at the end the band came out on stage and waved to everyone.
I wouldn't have been happy about it, but for the exposure alone I wouldn't be able to refuse. Your talking one of, if not the most watched things on the planet. I would have had a wireless pack on and done my best to fake it. but yes to get a song I wrote played to millions of people I'd fake it
the fact of the matter is most people who aren't musicians don't care. I've talked to many people about the half time show, and they simple don't care if its was a glorified karaoke session. I think most people who say they wouldn't fake it are out of touch with non musicians. Fact of the matter is while many of us musicians listen to music because we like cool sounds or interesting lines the average person mainly listens to the vocals, Why do you think American Idol and the voice are so popular while most of us think they are joke? Just one song played at the super bowl could give me band enough exposure to tour and make a living playing music for years. I love playing music enough to fake it once or twice if thats what it took
the fact of the matter is most people who aren't musicians don't care. I've talked to many people about the half time show, and they simple don't care if its was a glorified karaoke session. I think most people who say they wouldn't fake it are out of touch with non musicians. Fact of the matter is while many of us musicians listen to music because we like cool sounds or interesting lines the average person mainly listens to the vocals, Why do you think American Idol and the voice are so popular while most of us think they are joke? Just one song played at the super bowl could give me band enough exposure to tour and make a living playing music for years. I love playing music enough to fake it once or twice if thats what it took
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I'd do it. Absolutely. There are plenty of things I wouldn't do like show up and accept a Grammy, People's Choice, Oscar, Emmy, RR HoF induction, that list is long...
But get out there in front of a stadium full of people and a BILLION people watching at home? Who could say no to that? It's just pretty cool. Who cares about whether you play live or not? Besides... The logistics in putting on a fully live show are silly. Just go out there and have fun. That's what the halftime of the Super Bowl is about. Nothing to do with art or performance...
But get out there in front of a stadium full of people and a BILLION people watching at home? Who could say no to that? It's just pretty cool. Who cares about whether you play live or not? Besides... The logistics in putting on a fully live show are silly. Just go out there and have fun. That's what the halftime of the Super Bowl is about. Nothing to do with art or performance...
I voted yes. I'd do it in a heartbeat.
At least there were no music stands on stage.
But it got me thinking... suppose it had been announced beforehand that the performances would be pre-recorded. Suppose we were debating this before the show, rather than after.
Would folks have bothered to watch? I could imagine pro's and con's. The advertisements were pre-recorded, yet folks watched them anyway. And there is still a chance for suspense and surprise even if a performance is lip synced -- consider that every "lip sync fail" by a pop star goes viral on YouTube.
Should portions of the football game be pre-recorded? Consider the "extra point" attempts. Those are practically a formality, yet something could go wrong like a player having a broken shoelace. Should the "extra point" plays be pre-recorded to avoid the possibility of mishap?
Are sports different than music in some way that makes the authenticity of live performance more important for one than the other? Is this possibly why live music is dying?
At least there were no music stands on stage.
But it got me thinking... suppose it had been announced beforehand that the performances would be pre-recorded. Suppose we were debating this before the show, rather than after.
Would folks have bothered to watch? I could imagine pro's and con's. The advertisements were pre-recorded, yet folks watched them anyway. And there is still a chance for suspense and surprise even if a performance is lip synced -- consider that every "lip sync fail" by a pop star goes viral on YouTube.
Should portions of the football game be pre-recorded? Consider the "extra point" attempts. Those are practically a formality, yet something could go wrong like a player having a broken shoelace. Should the "extra point" plays be pre-recorded to avoid the possibility of mishap?
Are sports different than music in some way that makes the authenticity of live performance more important for one than the other? Is this possibly why live music is dying?
I voted no, because I'd have gone out and played live, and maybe felt bad for the guys who had to rush in any replacement equipment if anything died during the performance.
If the question becomes "Would you have walked out if they refused to let you play live and risk equipment failure?" Yeah. Because the Super Bowl doesn't book acts needing exposure, they book acts that are already successful. You'll get a lot more tweets about your band being the only one to walk out on the Super Bowl, and a lot more fans when they find out you have some integrity.
Would you mime your performance, if you knew you were going to get called out for it afterwards?
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Miming the SuperBowl event isn't new at all. The Networks have been doing syncs for a couple decades.
If I were famous enough to be asked to perform the super bowl, I'd imagine that most of my equally-famous colleagues would understand that that is a must-prerecord gig. The vast majority of folks wouldn't even know. And of the small percentage of people who would know, an even smaller percentage would be either ornery or uninformed enough to call me out for a "lack of integrity"
Ya know, that's the 3rd time I have seen that word used in the last 2 weeks!
...the past 55 years...nada.
1- ESPN: Mike & Mike talking about the kerfluffle between Sherman/Crabtree.
(Which probably means 0 for you in the UK)
2- Downton Abbey Season 4 finale...which those of you in the UK have already seen vs. most of us in the US.
Is "kerfluffle" the word of 2014?
an interesting point for sure. maybe in their case it wasn't exposure as much as it was an honor to be asked. maybe they did it for the experience, maybe they did it to stay in people's minds. personally that isn't a band that is really on my radar anymore. that's like saying does coke need the exposure? no, but they still advertise. just my theory, only they know why they said yes.
No.
IMO...go out there with no strings on your instruments. I guess it's me...but I woulda found that cool & rebellious.
True.
Ouch.
> than a couple. Just watched a new Doors DVD with rare TV footage...they faked it on several TV shows in the '60s.
I was a little surprised...then I played the Bonus Material & listened to Krieger/Densmore: They said there were 2 ways to get your music out there-
TV
Radio
...and since they were a new artist, they (including Morrison) did what they were told...although for a real cheesy programme called "Malibu U"...Morrison failed to show up & Krieger's brother stood in (with his bank to the camera).
