Hey! Thanx for the info! I'll check those guy's out,although I'm pretty familiar with the rockers like Geddy Lee and Steve Harris. As far as jazz goes,I love jazz,and I'd love to get my hands on a double bass. I'll check your song out too! Thanx man! Luke
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billy sheehan - david lee roth's first solo album, eat em and smile.
I still think that this cd (album to us older guys/gals) had the best guitar/bass playing. Via and Sheehan were fenominal together and were probobly the 2 best for that era....just my opinion of course
billy sheehan - david lee roth's first solo album, eat em and smile.
I still think that this cd (album to us older guys/gals) had the best guitar/bass playing. Via and Sheehan were fenominal together and were probobly the 2 best for that era....just my opinion of course
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
they were definitely up there, that's for sure. elephant gun and david lee roth's version of shyboy rank up there as some of my favorite chops tunes to play. i remember we used to do them, along with racer x's scarified in my old cover band back in college. loads of fun.
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
van cherone. sounds like a hair dresser 
shy boy is actually an old talas tune (billy sheehan's old band). the DLR version is more of a "song", tightened up a bit, less wanking. believe it or not.
god i remember that tour, that ROCKED.
shy boy is actually an old talas tune (billy sheehan's old band). the DLR version is more of a "song", tightened up a bit, less wanking. believe it or not.
god i remember that tour, that ROCKED.
Mundayn4ever:
Michael Manring - Drastic Measures
Thonk
You'll probably quit if you expect to play this kind of stuff after 4 years! Including Wooten, Jaco, Pattitucci, etc...
Just remember - most bands really don't want you to play that well. They need the bass to keep the band's sound together. You'll get more gigs if you can do the easy stuff to perfection. So just like with baseball, make sure you can perform the fundamentals flawlessly. That will give you the ability over time to make a diving catch. But you need the timing and instincts developed through doing the basics over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over
Michael Manring - Drastic Measures
Thonk
You'll probably quit if you expect to play this kind of stuff after 4 years! Including Wooten, Jaco, Pattitucci, etc...
Just remember - most bands really don't want you to play that well. They need the bass to keep the band's sound together. You'll get more gigs if you can do the easy stuff to perfection. So just like with baseball, make sure you can perform the fundamentals flawlessly. That will give you the ability over time to make a diving catch. But you need the timing and instincts developed through doing the basics over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over
"to tell you the truth i think that only someone else can judge whether or not you are a good bassist"
I would tend to disagree, because it can depend on who's doing the telling... If I played bass to show off to a bunch of 16 or 17 year peeps kids they'd probably think I was great... if l played the same to many of you guys on here you'd die laughing!
However, if I played some of the basslines I've written for the band to the kids they'd think nothing of it, whereas some of you talkbass dudes might be more impressed.
I think it knowing your current limitations/level of skill comes from yourself.
If you're confdent in your playing and you know what good playing is, then you cant be bad.
I think you also have to honest with yourself.
In my case I have to try not to put myself down. I always hear the worst in my playing and am always surprised if people praise my playing.
Tricky?
I would tend to disagree, because it can depend on who's doing the telling... If I played bass to show off to a bunch of 16 or 17 year peeps kids they'd probably think I was great... if l played the same to many of you guys on here you'd die laughing!
However, if I played some of the basslines I've written for the band to the kids they'd think nothing of it, whereas some of you talkbass dudes might be more impressed.
I think it knowing your current limitations/level of skill comes from yourself.
If you're confdent in your playing and you know what good playing is, then you cant be bad.
I think you also have to honest with yourself.
In my case I have to try not to put myself down. I always hear the worst in my playing and am always surprised if people praise my playing.
Tricky?
"Just remember - most bands really don't want you to play that well"
This is very true, someone said somewhere back there that 'other musicians want you to make them sound good' -
"Hey Bassist, Root notes and the odd fill will surfice, thank you very much"!
I'd love to be able to real fast and mad stuff... and I'm sure I can in some people's eyes, but when would I use it? Only very infrequently is a bass solo needed/wanted and even then, I usually focus on melody... because it's easier to listen to!
This is very true, someone said somewhere back there that 'other musicians want you to make them sound good' -
"Hey Bassist, Root notes and the odd fill will surfice, thank you very much"!
I'd love to be able to real fast and mad stuff... and I'm sure I can in some people's eyes, but when would I use it? Only very infrequently is a bass solo needed/wanted and even then, I usually focus on melody... because it's easier to listen to!
Mudvayne4ever is probably getting "schooled" here at this thread, but I'll throw in my $0.02 just for good measure.
When I was 16, I felt very good about my guitar playing. I was better than anybody else I knew my age. When a friend asked me if I was taking lessons, I sniffed and responded, "Actually, you know, I GIVE lessons these days."
He paused, cocked his head, and said, "You know Eric, there IS room for improvement." I felt pretty dumb for making that statement, and now I laugh when I think about it.
Whenever you feel like you're a bad mofo on the bass, try this:
1) Master 10 tunes of Scottish smallpipe music on the bass guitar. Include all throws, burls, bends, and other ornamentation.
2) Learn to double Ella Fitzgerald on any of her recordings. Especially focus on mastering her incredible scat solos.
3) Record a bass sound that can carry the bass line and the melody, yet makes listeners ask, "What instrument is that? It's funky."
4) Master a piece of Japanese koto or shakuhachi for solo bass.
5) Go to a rhumba, or similar latin jam session. Sit in with them. I dare you.
When I was 16, I felt very good about my guitar playing. I was better than anybody else I knew my age. When a friend asked me if I was taking lessons, I sniffed and responded, "Actually, you know, I GIVE lessons these days."
He paused, cocked his head, and said, "You know Eric, there IS room for improvement." I felt pretty dumb for making that statement, and now I laugh when I think about it.
Whenever you feel like you're a bad mofo on the bass, try this:
1) Master 10 tunes of Scottish smallpipe music on the bass guitar. Include all throws, burls, bends, and other ornamentation.
2) Learn to double Ella Fitzgerald on any of her recordings. Especially focus on mastering her incredible scat solos.
3) Record a bass sound that can carry the bass line and the melody, yet makes listeners ask, "What instrument is that? It's funky."
4) Master a piece of Japanese koto or shakuhachi for solo bass.
5) Go to a rhumba, or similar latin jam session. Sit in with them. I dare you.
...and after you've done that try blowing up a greased dingy while standing in a hammock!
....then maybe wrestling a gazelle in a pit full of ping-pong balls?
Serioulsy tho: a very good point. I couldnt do any of those things right now, but I believe I could have a damned good go, given a great amount of time and the desire to do so.
The key is the desire to so. I thinmk if you really want to you can do pretty much whatever you want. PMT (and I dont mean the kind the Mrs gets!)
I don't think that's an arrogant or unrealistic statement. What do you think? Do you think you could do those things if you really wanted to?
...Please don't tell me you're 109 years old and have been working on the same piece of scots pipe music for the past 79 years!
I believe I'm a good bass player when I feel I played my best, that's when I'm happy.
>>...........>>>>
For the record what are 'throws' and 'burls' - I probably already know, but I'm not to hot on the old bass jargon..
...and does japaneze music use the same system of notes as western music?
....then maybe wrestling a gazelle in a pit full of ping-pong balls?
Serioulsy tho: a very good point. I couldnt do any of those things right now, but I believe I could have a damned good go, given a great amount of time and the desire to do so.
The key is the desire to so. I thinmk if you really want to you can do pretty much whatever you want. PMT (and I dont mean the kind the Mrs gets!)
I don't think that's an arrogant or unrealistic statement. What do you think? Do you think you could do those things if you really wanted to?
...Please don't tell me you're 109 years old and have been working on the same piece of scots pipe music for the past 79 years!
I believe I'm a good bass player when I feel I played my best, that's when I'm happy.
>>...........>>>>
For the record what are 'throws' and 'burls' - I probably already know, but I'm not to hot on the old bass jargon..
...and does japaneze music use the same system of notes as western music?
i think i'm good, but i know i can be a billion times better, the only reason i think i'm good is because i've had people tell me stuff like that i was the best around my city and stuff, i dont believe that, but i think i can hold up! i can play by ear, and lay down a line to most songs with friends or church or whatever, so i'm pleased with how far i've come over the past year and a half, but damn i cant wait to be better!!
a lot of playing seems to be ranked on how fast someone can slap the thing, i dont like that, i'm not into tap or slap or any of that stuff for the most part, i dont see where it would come into most normal play, especially not jammin and stuff! although i do use slap a bit..oh well
peace!
a lot of playing seems to be ranked on how fast someone can slap the thing, i dont like that, i'm not into tap or slap or any of that stuff for the most part, i dont see where it would come into most normal play, especially not jammin and stuff! although i do use slap a bit..oh well
peace!
Actually, I made a list of stuff I'm working on and can't really do. (and I'm 27, not 127). The point was to keep on working on music that is out of your reach.
I know a lot of Scottish music, but I'm probably not able to whip out ten tunes in a row. I'd like to. To answer your question, burls are 32nd note trills played to add percussion. Throws are a quick burst of percussive notes. They can be simulated on the bass by triple picking with the right hand. Ask a bagpiper; it' their technique.
Japanese music doesn't not usually use the same notation, though music is music. Eric Johnson does a great "koto technique" using harmonics and bends. I suggest it, 'cause if you're out of ideas, you can always try "bass koto." Might be cool.
And if I could ever play a bass solo like Ella Fitzgerald sings, I would be releasing a lot more albums, I assure you.
These are the things I work on.
I know a lot of Scottish music, but I'm probably not able to whip out ten tunes in a row. I'd like to. To answer your question, burls are 32nd note trills played to add percussion. Throws are a quick burst of percussive notes. They can be simulated on the bass by triple picking with the right hand. Ask a bagpiper; it' their technique.
Japanese music doesn't not usually use the same notation, though music is music. Eric Johnson does a great "koto technique" using harmonics and bends. I suggest it, 'cause if you're out of ideas, you can always try "bass koto." Might be cool.
And if I could ever play a bass solo like Ella Fitzgerald sings, I would be releasing a lot more albums, I assure you.
These are the things I work on.
You're scottish aren't you!!!
Bagpipes are so cool. They're such an overpowering and emotional sound. I love 'em... not enough to try and learn to play them mind!
...I guess it's probably illegal too, being a sasenack n' all.
Bagpipes are so cool. They're such an overpowering and emotional sound. I love 'em... not enough to try and learn to play them mind!
...I guess it's probably illegal too, being a sasenack n' all.
"Learn to double Ella Fitzgerald on any of her recordings. Especially focus on mastering her incredible scat solos."
"And if I could ever play a bass solo like Ella Fitzgerald sings, I would be releasing a lot more albums, I assure you."
For the sake of being picky, doubling Ella's scat solo and 'playing like she sings' are two very different things.
You are right, if you could play like she sings (with all the same feel) you would release more albums, but you could potentrially double her scat solo with all the feel of a dead dog and it would be naff.
Why set yourself tasks you cannot complete?
"And if I could ever play a bass solo like Ella Fitzgerald sings, I would be releasing a lot more albums, I assure you."
For the sake of being picky, doubling Ella's scat solo and 'playing like she sings' are two very different things.
You are right, if you could play like she sings (with all the same feel) you would release more albums, but you could potentrially double her scat solo with all the feel of a dead dog and it would be naff.
Why set yourself tasks you cannot complete?
Do any other bassists here play in a band of guitar glory hogs? Or am I the only one? The lead guitarist in the band I'm in jumps right in and tries to "hog" any opening. He say's,"Bass doesn't need to stand out,it just needs to keep a rythym." I disagree. I hope some of you do also. He thinks that I should play about 4 different notes on a 4 or 8 count through the whole song. Tragically,he's the best guitarist in my region,and don't want to just up and leave. Any suggestions on how I can get through his head that there is so much more to bass? Any comments appreciated,thank you. Luke
P.S. "John Turner" You're solo is great,very impressed. = )
P.S. "John Turner" You're solo is great,very impressed. = )
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
A Crest Pro II 8002 bridged into 2 SVT cabs. You'll be at four ohms, so the Crest is putting out 2800W. That will literally, "get through his head."
I think it's dangerous to run around thinking that you suck. If you really thought you sucked at bass, why would you continue to do it. I continue to love and play bass because I think that I'm (am I really going to say it?) good. I know I may be crazy, but I listen to what I do and watch the reactions of people in the audience and the people on stage or in a jam session around me and I feel proud of what I do (most of the time). I'm no star and I don't think people walk out of a gig I play going "wow, what a great bassist!", but I think that I'm good at what I do. Even when I play a bad gig, I like to think that I'm a good bassist playing a bad gig. I think that if you've achieved the level of being able to express yourself through the instrument without constantly worrying about technique and what scales your playing, your good. Now, being great is a whole other story...
I also do not suck! Without an mp3 of my dazzling technique 
it seems kind of pointless to say over the internet that I'm any good though. I have significant strengths, but also some gnawing weaknesses.
As I see more and more of the music industry, one thing that really surprises me is how very good some players are that really never show it off. Take a random band on the radio that sounds like they barely know which end of the instruments to pluck, and maybe that's in fact the case, and maybe in fact half of them went to Julliard or something.
it seems kind of pointless to say over the internet that I'm any good though. I have significant strengths, but also some gnawing weaknesses. As I see more and more of the music industry, one thing that really surprises me is how very good some players are that really never show it off. Take a random band on the radio that sounds like they barely know which end of the instruments to pluck, and maybe that's in fact the case, and maybe in fact half of them went to Julliard or something.
