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Can anyone tell me why this happens?

Ok, this is a question about strings and hopefully this is the right place for this type of question. If not, mods feel free to move it.

I have two Musicmaster basses, one each of the Squier and Fender version. The Fender one I've had since late 90's and has been through many changes, but was recovered from a barn in dreadful shape so any changes did not affect the value. Just to get that discussion out of the way before anyone asks.

Over the last couple years the arthritis in the hand hasn't gotten better and the original Fender neck was very much like a Louisville slugger, very thick and there was alot of pain after playing it for a gig. I had assembled a Bronco from parts purchased here in the TB classifieds and loved the smooth and comfortable feeling of the neck. So I took that neck and installed it on the Musicmaster body.

Here's the question. I purchased set of D'addario flat wound short scale chromes for this bass. These are the same strings I had purchased before, a couple years ago I bought two sets, one for each bass. But now when I went to install them the winding is too short and extends over the nut? I'm confused, the scale is the same, the set up required very little if any movement of the saddles, so how can the new neck change the way the windings line up like this. See the photos below.

I did measure from ball end to winding and confirmed it was 32" and based on the list of winding lengths I found on here I've already ordered a set of medium scale, 34" of winding. So I have the problem solved I'm just asking because I'm curious about how this changed so much?

Thanks in advance.

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And just to clarify, I put an old set of Black Beauties on temporarily because the original E string got caught in the through body bridge and unwound last weekend when I removed strings to paint the headstock. That photo is the new E that I started with and found the issue.
 
As far as I know, D'Addario "short scale" has always been 32" in winding length.

Is it possible it has something to do with the difference in the bridge design between the two basses as to where the ball ends are positioned?

For example, between my P bass with the stock Fender high-mass bridge and my J bass with the Badass II bridge, the ball ends on the J sit farther way from the headstock, and as a result, the silks on the same strings line up closer to the nut.

EDIT: By the way, are they both top-loaded? It's not a case where one is top-load and the other is thru-body, is it?
 
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If I'm understanding you correctly, and you're stringing thru-body... that's going to use up a little more of the length of the string at the ball end, bringing the end of the silks down closer to, or as in your case, below the nut.

I think some manufacturers make special thru-body strings to accommodate this. I don't have any string-thrus myself, so I'm just going off what I think I've seen lol.
 
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@WI Short Scaler:
if the Musicmaster body doesn't have special mods to it, I'm assuming the bridge is their standard top-loader.

Are saddles placed noticeably forward? A slightly botched bridge placement, combined with a string winding length to the south side of tolerance, could do that.
 
@WI Short Scaler:
if the Musicmaster body doesn't have special mods to it, I'm assuming the bridge is their standard top-loader.

Are saddles placed noticeably forward? A slightly botched bridge placement, combined with a string winding length to the south side of tolerance, could do that.

No mods to the body. The Bronco neck needed minimal sanding on the sides width-wise to go in, other than that the neck and bolt holes went in with no other work.

The bridge is a thru body, exactly like the one on my Squier MM. That was put on probably 10 or more years ago and have gone through other kinds of strings before with no issues. And as I said, those last sets a couple years ago was identical on both basses. Only change is the Bronco neck since that time.

Here's the bridge.....don't see issues with that. No changes since the neck was installed in Jan 2021. And come to think of it I'd add that the chrome short scales from a couple years ago were put back on the bass with the new neck and were still there until last weekend when the one came unwound. Thanks

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As far as I know, D'Addario "short scale" has always been 32" in winding length.

Is it possible it has something to do with the difference in the bridge design between the two basses as to where the ball ends are positioned?

For example, between my P bass with the stock Fender high-mass bridge and my J bass with the Badass II bridge, the ball ends on the J sit farther way from the headstock, and as a result, the silks on the same strings line up closer to the nut.

EDIT: By the way, are they both top-loaded? It's not a case where one is top-load and the other is thru-body, is it?

Need pics of both bridges.

Both bridges are thru body and have been for a long time. When my son was doing the paint work in high school I found a Squier Musicmaster bridge and installed it at that time. Son is 28 now so at least 10 years ago the bridges were the same.

Sorry, no photos of the Squier bridge, no mods done to that bass other than a refin of the body since it looked like the original owner had used the body as a garden shovel.

I generally put the same size/style of strings on each bass when replacing. I am one of those people that likes my basses set up as similarly as possible.
 
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Ah. This fact alone makes use of short-scale strings (proper) iffy, generally speaking, but at this point I see you're mainly interested in understanding why the same set can work on one bass but not the other. Could body thickness be different between the two?

I've honestly never measured them but never really noticed a difference. I'll look at that though.

It's just so odd, this is probably the 4 time I put identical string sets on the basses and now this set doesn't work just after the neck change.
 
I've honestly never measured them but never really noticed a difference. I'll look at that though.

It's just so odd, this is probably the 4 time I put identical string sets on the basses and now this set doesn't work just after the neck change.
Is the bridge pic from after the neck replacement, and after setting intonation for the strings it was wearing? If so, saddles don't look especially forward to me either: other than heel sides needing some sanding, the neck must be a perfect fit, and the Chromes not fitting correctly after the neck swap seems to be just coincidence. That individual set (or just the E) must have been wound a bit shorter.
 
Is the bridge pic from after the neck replacement, and after setting intonation for the strings it was wearing? If so, saddles don't look especially forward to me either: other than heel sides needing some sanding, the neck must be a perfect fit, and the Chromes not fitting correctly after the neck swap seems to be just coincidence. That individual set (or just the E) must have been wound a bit shorter.

yes, after the neck replacement.
 
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Is the bridge pic from after the neck replacement, and after setting intonation for the strings it was wearing? If so, saddles don't look especially forward to me either: other than heel sides needing some sanding, the neck must be a perfect fit, and the Chromes not fitting correctly after the neck swap seems to be just coincidence. That individual set (or just the E) must have been wound a bit shorter.

I thought that too, and that's why I measured it per the specs listed on here. 32" right on the spot.
 
I had this happen with my Hagstrom I bass with short scale strings- every string was like this, although Hagstrom is technically 30 inch scale. Thing is that the headstock is longer than normal or something, so i got mediums and it worked fine. I guess not all short scales are created equal? :)
 
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This might be a goofy answer that you may have already checked out, but I remember I put strings on my string thru G&L and found that the ball end for whatever set of strings I was using was too big to seat properly in the ferrule. I had the same issue where the silk wraps were past the nut and I didn't figure it out until I swapped strings with smaller ball ends that for in the ferrule correctly, giving the string about another inch or so of travel which placed the silk wraps behind the nut. Maybe this is what is happening?
 
Once I bought a whole 5 string elixir set and it was fine.
Bought the same set but it was assembled from singles and the same thing happened,the B was too short.

I have a through body mustang and it needs medium scale or DR short scale(these are longer).