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Can no longer enjoy fresh roundwounds

Sep 28, 2002
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Long time player here, and I do mean long, like about 40 years.

Back when I started playing, I knew nothing about basses, strings, amps, etc. My first bass was a Cortley Jazz copy with one pickup. I think it had flat wounds on it, and I ordered a NEW set of Fender strings from a local record store. I remember them being $32, which was a lot of money for me at the time. Those were flats. I didn’t know if I liked them or not; nothing to compare.

Fast forward about 10 years, and I’m a field tester for Trace-Elliot rounds. I was fully a rounds player and didn’t even look at or consider flats. I wanted the piano string / bell tone and that was it. If my strings got a little dead, I had to replace them. In recent years, Dunlop Super-Brights became my choice of string.

Then about 6-8 years ago here on TB, the discussions about flats were everywhere. I had to try some. I ordered the cheapest at the time, which were Fender. Didn’t like them & took them off the bass in about a week. The TB discussions continued, TI Flats, Chromes, LaBella 1954 originals, there was a flurry of flat wound discussions daily.

I tried the Fenders again. Still a no go for me. I was doing a setup on a bass for a friend that had Ernie Ball flats (pre-Cobalts). Also a no go. I figured it was just me, but I hadn’t tried the most discussed brands (Chromes & TI’s). I tried Chromes first & I liked them much better. Bought another set for another bass. Still liked them. Bought a short scale set for my Mustang. Liked them.

Still willing to experiment, I tried TI Jazz flats. They were not what I expected, but I did like them on my acoustic fretless and my P bass.

Still experimenting based in TB threads, I order Ernie Ball Cobalt flats. Really like them, especially the tone.

I retired from full time work in August 2020 and joined a new band in Feb 2021. I’ve been playing A LOT (33rd gig this year is tonight 6/25/22). I’ve been playing 4 strings (Peavey Foundation, P-parts bass, SB MM Stingray, all with flats.
Last night I played my ‘98 Carvin LB75 for the first time in a while. It has Rotosound 66 light gauge strings on it. I could not get a tone I liked. Amp fiddling, onboard EQ fiddling, EQ pedal, nothing worked. I grabbed my ‘87 Peavey Foundation S that has new EB Cobalt flats on it. All problems solved.

I sill have basses with Rounds and I think I’ll continue to play rounds on occasion, but they have become “slap only” use for me & the EB Cobalt flats are starting to take over that role.

Unless I discover some type of magic round wound In the future, I doubt I’ll buy any more. Seems the thickness of mids and high mids of flats has become something I can’t live without which really seems strange since I was in to bright piano tone for a few decades.

Looking for lower cost flats these days…
 
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You might have a good time with Dunlop flats or Sadowsky flats. Good luck finding any flats for cheap. I can think of a couple roundwound that I like the mids on. Ken Smith Rockmasters and Dean Markley Blue Steels. Both seem to give me good mid range which is a must for the tone I like.
 
Cobalt flatwound sound great on my Jazz bass. The 2816 set has Holy tone on my friend's EBMM SR5 special and the 2811 just juicy up the classic Stingray. Meanwhile, been load the 2814 set on my cheap CV50P and make it sound angry with aggressive pick playing.
 
I just bought some EB Cobalt Flats for my Ibanez ATK 5-string. This is sort of a gamble... since the ATK thrives with bright round wound strings. If they stink on the ATK... I can always move them to my ESP 5-string fretless. I have a feeling I'm gonna like the Cobalt Flats on the ATK.
 
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Unless I discover some type of magic round wound In the future, I doubt I’ll buy any more.
i can relate to your 'rounds story' --- i used to want that round wound "bell/piano" thing, too (and i play fretless! :wideyed: ), but i got passed that 'requirement' even though i've continued to use rounds...i just play them longer (a lot longer) than i used to.

i love the roto 66s i've used for decades, but my all-time favorite has to be TI jazz rounds! plenty of mid punch if that's what you need, but they don't have all that 'glass' that new/fresh rounds have. in fact, like flats: they need a few hours/days/weeks? of break-in before they even sound good! but once they are settled = wowza! :D and for a round wound, they last 'forever' (1-2+ years for me, depending on how well i take care of them).

i recommend you consider TI jazz rounds for a very special round-wound experience if you haven't tried them. they just don't get as much play on TB as their flat wound stablemates, but they're special, one of a kind!

i can't help you with flats, but i wish you luck getting the string set that gets your mojo workin'! :thumbsup:
 
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i played in a classic rock outfit for over a decade and did a few years of rounds, a few yrs of flats, then back again. i guess i love both!
currently i play with a rock group and a soul/rnb group. rounds!
also a singer songwriter group---using a Jack Cassidy with flats
 
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