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Canada bans Dire Straits song!!!!

#81
Mark Latimour said:
So is the general consensus in this thread that the word f***** when used as a derogatory insult is an acceptable word to be used on broadcast radio at all times?

I'm somewhat surprised by that. Whilst I personally don't have a problem with "curse words" etc being used on the radio (particuarly when they are in songs) and prefer when they are not edited out, I can totally see why parents don't want their kids listening to the radio and hearing curse words. I find it extremely odd that someone would then treat the word "f*****" as any less of an offensive word as "s***" for example (IMO its more offensive). I would have thought that most people (especially parents) would find it unacceptable to have the word "f*****" be allowed on the radio at times when kids could be listening. The fact that it just happens to be in Money For Nothing is just by the by.
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^Also this.
 
#83
lo_freq_geek said:
This is different from American schools banning Huck Finn? Political correctness knows no boundaries.
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Banning Huck Finn? I don't think it was banned, but rather the n-word was removed and replaced with "slave" in teh newer editions? Still, I didn't agree with that at all - sometimes the past 'aint pretty and there's no use in trying to suger-coat it. But yeah, it's not just Canada we have some goofy stuff going on as well.
 
#85
lo_freq_geek said:
This is different from American schools banning Huck Finn? Political correctness knows no boundaries.
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Yes, it is different. The Huckleberry Finn case alters the actual text. Were the reader none the wiser, he would think that the word "slave" was what the author originally wrote. The equivalent regarding "Money For Nothing" would be if all subsequent editions of the Dire Straits album had the word "******" replaced with something deemed less offensive. That isn't the case. The measures suggested concerning "Money For Nothing" are merely temporary and apply only in very particular circumstances (radio play). There is no permanent altering of the lyrics, simply a "bleep". Such "bleeping" has been customary for a long time, especially with hip-hop ("clean" versions).

Here's a blatant example that is especially relevant here. Anyone familiar with N.W.A. will know just how much editing was necessary to make this track "clean" without even listening to it. What's interesting is that, despite all of the "backwards" edits, the word "fag" remains intact:

 
#86
bmc said:
Maybe someone should make the CRTC, or whoever, of this group from Toronto. It's being broadcast on the internet without any filters and I am beside myself with horror.



Give it a good listening. :p

Have a great weekend folks.
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Thanks for that bmc... the whole office is crying with laughter!
Get ready to watch the count go up on that one as I think I have started to make it go viral!
LM*O!!!!
Fishheadjoe
 
#87
I'm officially pissed. Dug out what Dire Straits CDs I could find last night (one appears to be missing) and only the greatest hits CD has Money for Nothing on it. It's the damned edited version.
Nowhere on the disk can I find any advisory that any of the songs were edited. Truthfully, I didn't look very hard but that should be in plain sight anyway. I don't remember where I bought it or how much it cost, but I want my money back (good luck with that, I know). This is not the song I used to listen to.
 
#88
Hatred and violence towards gays is still very much in effect in many parts of the world despite the advances made in the past few decades regarding acceptance. If you have any doubt of this have a look at the following video. Then have a look at the comments made by viewers. Anyone familiar with Jamaican slang will recognise just how insanely hateful some people still are regarding gays.



N.B., "Batty boy" is the Jamaican equivalent of "fag" and "Boom Bye Bye" is a reference to a song of the same name that celebrates the death of gay men.
 
#89
bass12 said:
Yes, it is different. The Huckleberry Finn case alters the actual text. Were the reader none the wiser, he would think that the word "slave" was what the author originally wrote. The equivalent regarding "Money For Nothing" would be if all subsequent editions of the Dire Straits album had the word "******" replaced with something deemed less offensive. That isn't the case. The measures suggested concerning "Money For Nothing" are merely temporary and apply only in very particular circumstances (radio play). There is no permanent altering of the lyrics, simply a "bleep". Such "bleeping" has been customary for a long time, especially with hip-hop ("clean" versions).

Here's a blatant example that is especially relevant here. Anyone familiar with N.W.A. will know just how much editing was necessary to make this track "clean" without even listening to it. What's interesting is that, despite all of the "backwards" edits, the word "fag" remains intact:

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From the standpoint of storytelling and structure that's a very effective piece of song craft and arranging. It actually had my adrenaline pumping. It'll be interesting to hear what these songwriters come up with after another ten years or so of living & learning.
 
#90
Canada: Dire Straits’ song using “******” should be censored
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Canadian Radio Stations Proudly Ignore ‘Money For Nothing’ Ban By Putting ‘Little ******’ Lyrics On Repeat
http://www.gayagenda.com/2011/01/ca...an-by-putting-little-******-lyrics-on-repeat/
 
#91
MIJ-VI said:
Canadian Radio Stations Proudly Ignore ‘Money For Nothing’ Ban By Putting ‘Little ******’ Lyrics On Repeat
http://www.gayagenda.com/2011/01/ca...an-by-putting-little-******-lyrics-on-repeat/
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Sure, they'll take the trouble to do that, but ask them to play a song that doesn't fit neatly into their pre-fab same-across-the-continent playlist... :rollno:
 
#94
bass12 said:
Yes, it is different. The Huckleberry Finn case alters the actual text. Were the reader none the wiser, he would think that the word "slave" was what the author originally wrote. The equivalent regarding "Money For Nothing" would be if all subsequent editions of the Dire Straits album had the word "******" replaced with something deemed less offensive. That isn't the case. The measures suggested concerning "Money For Nothing" are merely temporary and apply only in very particular circumstances (radio play). There is no permanent altering of the lyrics, simply a "bleep". Such "bleeping" has been customary for a long time, especially with hip-hop ("clean" versions).

Here's a blatant example that is especially relevant here. Anyone familiar with N.W.A. will know just how much editing was necessary to make this track "clean" without even listening to it. What's interesting is that, despite all of the "backwards" edits, the word "fag" remains intact:

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Granted, I'm a white guy whos never been in a ghetto, so I occasionally get some flak for being a big N.W.A. fan, but from a purely artistic point of view, the edit interupts the flow of the song. I also think, whether people like it or not, N.W.A. intentionally chose those words to make their point. Watering down their artistic vision with censorship, in my eyes, isn't even remotely acceptable.
 

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