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Carvin SB5000 / SB4000 Roll Call...Part 7!

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Umm..not sure if one of the noise is from you soloing the pickups and you're hearing the 60 cycle hum. (Which kind of sounds like it to me.) Or other power issues like fluorescence lighting, computer monitor, washer/dryer etc... or in my case the Dishnet box. Or you have a poor ground issue within. Check for some loose or poorly soldered ground wire.

The tone knob noise, try some pot/tuner cleaner?

Or, the preamp has sustained some damage from the battery wire incident. Which is totally probable since +18v was being shorted out to ground.

Or, chuck that awful, but fancy looking output jack in favor of a standard stereo jack. My first B24's jack starting to crap out causing poor contact when engaging the minus side of the battery, along with some horrible crackling noises when touching the instrument cable while plugged into the bass. Carvin sent me a new jack, but I installed a Switch Craft stereo jack instead and have no issues after that. My second B24 is doing fine with the orig jack, thus far.

If it was a grounding issue, the noise would actually get louder when I touched the strings. It's more of a poor shielding symptom, which is very weird because Carvin's basses insides are completely covered with copper foil...
I don't think the tone knob pot is dirty because the scratching noise stops when i'm touching the metalic parts...
Is the output jack awful? I haven't really thought about that possibility.

Carvin said they could send me new replacement electronics for free and then I would have someone to replace them for me (a local luthier probably, since the only Carvin authorized dealers here in Brazil are in another city...)

That sucks, I really wasn't expecting to have this kind of problem with such a well known company like Carvin. The short circuit incident was really amateurish! :mad:
 
If it was a grounding issue, the noise would actually get louder when I touched the strings.
I believe you have it backwards, if it is a ground issue it will make noise unless you touch something metal on the instrument. I have basses that are grounded perfectly and in some conditions they still buzz ever so slightly until I touch the bridge or strings.
 
I believe you have it backwards, if it is a ground issue it will make noise unless you touch something metal on the instrument. I have basses that are grounded perfectly and in some conditions they still buzz ever so slightly until I touch the bridge or strings.

Actually it IS the other way around.

Quoting SubSectorSucker at this thread:
One of the most common misconceptions going around the internet (if you touch the strings and the hum stops, its a grounding issue). It's the exact opposite. If you touch the strings and the hum gets louder, THEN its a grounding issue! You have a shielding problem, my friend! Here is a great article that will explain what is going on with your bass.....I hope more people find it ;)


http://www.guitarnuts.com/technical/noisebucket.php

Take a read at the article this guy recommended. If your basses are grounded perfectly but still make noises till you touch the metal parts, then they're probably not shielded properly...
 
Actually it IS the other way around.

Quoting SubSectorSucker at this thread:


Take a read at the article this guy recommended. If your basses are grounded perfectly but still make noises till you touch the metal parts, then they're probably not shielded properly...

Interesting. That makes sense because when I'd touch the pole pieces on my single coils (of any brand that sticks out a bit from the pickup cover) they would make a lot of noise. Talked with Jason Lollar and he was kind enough to explain to me how to ground the pole pieces. Wired it up and now no buzz.

I'd alway been told that when you touched the strings and buzz went away that you were grounding them so I guess I never questioned it. :eek:
 
Carvin said they could send me new replacement electronics for free and then I would have someone to replace them for me (a local luthier probably, since the only Carvin authorized dealers here in Brazil are in another city...)

That sucks, I really wasn't expecting to have this kind of problem with such a well known company like Carvin. The short circuit incident was really amateurish! :mad:

Faulty grounding or shielding issues usually just don't happen over night. If it was fine days ago and things started to crap...maybe it's the preamp. It's very simple to replace, just a couple connection.

Amateurish? Agreed.
 
Interesting. That makes sense because when I'd touch the pole pieces on my single coils (of any brand that sticks out a bit from the pickup cover) they would make a lot of noise. Talked with Jason Lollar and he was kind enough to explain to me how to ground the pole pieces. Wired it up and now no buzz.

I'd alway been told that when you touched the strings and buzz went away that you were grounding them so I guess I never questioned it. :eek:

Haha, to be honest, I also thought that way (that we were grounding the strings by touching them), till I read that!

Faulty grounding or shielding issues usually just don't happen over night. If it was fine days ago and things started to crap...maybe it's the preamp. It's very simple to replace, just a couple connection.

Amateurish? Agreed.

I also only noticed the tone knob thingy after that incident (coincidence maybe? I don't know). But I do believe it is very likely that the preamp was damaged... will wait for the replacement electronics and see if the problem gets solved. Good thing Carvin has one of the best support service I've ever seen
 
Well this sucks. Tonight I pick up my SB5 and played it in active mode for about 10 minutes then I start to hear some popping and crackling then it just completely dies. The batteries are new, and i just received the bass 4 days ago. been playing it in passive mode until tonight and this happens. It still works in passive mode.
 
Well this sucks. Tonight I pick up my SB5 and played it in active mode for about 10 minutes then I start to hear some popping and crackling then it just completely dies. The batteries are new, and i just received the bass 4 days ago. been playing it in passive mode until tonight and this happens. It still works in passive mode.

i read that duracell batteries are little shorter so they cant make good contact, people said that if you raise the battery everything will be ok.
 
i read that duracell batteries are little shorter so they cant make good contact, people said that if you raise the battery everything will be ok.

These are energizer batteries but you're right ! I opened the battery compartment and notice that the battery cavity is just slightly too big for a standard 9v. They were bouncing around in there, so I took some electrical tape and folded it to the thickness of the space between the battery and cavity wall. Now they are snug and tight and don't move. Problem solved!
 
These are energizer batteries but you're right ! I opened the battery compartment and notice that the battery cavity is just slightly too big for a standard 9v. They were bouncing around in there, so I took some electrical tape and folded it to the thickness of the space between the battery and cavity wall. Now they are snug and tight and don't move. Problem solved!

I am glad I could help.
 
Well this sucks. Tonight I pick up my SB5 and played it in active mode for about 10 minutes then I start to hear some popping and crackling then it just completely dies. The batteries are new, and i just received the bass 4 days ago. been playing it in passive mode until tonight and this happens. It still works in passive mode.

That happened to my brand new SB4001 too, but it wasnt a matter of battery compartment size. The batteries were goddamn HOT when I checked them, then when I opened the knob plate I realized that the soldered wires connecting the 9v+9v batteries were touching the blend knob interface, resulting in a short circuit. Result of that was 2 sets of batteries lost and a slightly damaged pre amp :hmm:. Make sure to check that in your bass too.
 
These are energizer batteries but you're right ! I opened the battery compartment and notice that the battery cavity is just slightly too big for a standard 9v. They were bouncing around in there, so I took some electrical tape and folded it to the thickness of the space between the battery and cavity wall. Now they are snug and tight and don't move. Problem solved!

The problem is that there is no "standard" 9v size. Every manufacturer is different. Glad that the problem was solved.
 
The problem is that there is no "standard" 9v size. Every manufacturer is different. Glad that the problem was solved.

Music man basses have a great 9v compartment it actually squeezes itself around the battery. I may put a little piece of double sided tape on the inside of the cavity , that should work nicely.
 
Well this sucks. Tonight I pick up my SB5 and played it in active mode for about 10 minutes then I start to hear some popping and crackling then it just completely dies. The batteries are new, and i just received the bass 4 days ago. been playing it in passive mode until tonight and this happens. It still works in passive mode.

Hmm, never have had this issue with my SB 4000 or 5000. I use Duracell 9V's.
 
Hello SB folks

I thought I would through this out to the group first.

I have come to the conclusion that I sound snifigently cleaner on 5 strings that have neck pickup (if it is a 2 pickup bass) further back (specifically on the B). I have a heavy attack and it shows on any J 5 (less with the SB).

So as much as I love the tone and playability I'm moving my SB5K

Trans Black Finish
Cream Pickups
Vol/Vol/Tone/Bass-Treble
Gloss Neck
Ebony Board
Ash Body
Low Wide Frets
Schaller strap buttons
$800 shipped

I will put this up tomorrow in classifieds but again...Here first.
 
Hello SB folks

I thought I would through this out to the group first.

I have come to the conclusion that I sound snifigently cleaner on 5 strings that have neck pickup (if it is a 2 pickup bass) further back (specifically on the B). I have a heavy attack and it shows on any J 5 (less with the SB).

So as much as I love the tone and playability I'm moving my SB5K

Trans Black Finish
Cream Pickups
Vol/Vol/Tone/Bass-Treble
Gloss Neck
Ebony Board
Ash Body
Low Wide Frets
Schaller strap buttons
$800 shipped

I will put this up tomorrow in classifieds but again...Here first.

You're a TB vet, you know the deal! PICTURES!!!:scowl:
 
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