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Carvin SB5000 / SB4000 Roll Call!

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jzucker said:
Point is that you can readily get a used metro for the same price as you can re-sell it for. Try that with an SB...Maybe in a few months but i've only seen a couple used.
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Oh I see we're comparing the purchase of used instruments that have been on the market long enough to establish a stable resale value to the price of a new bass model that recently came out and has only had one or two hit the market so far. Gotcha.

So you came into the thread saying Sadowskys are the best. Then bought an in stock SB5000, got it and didn't like it initially. Then came back and said it was the best bass you'd played in years, then came back and said the pickups hum and that other significantly more expensive, Japanese made basses have better setup, lower action before it buzzes, zero issues, no hum, better preamp, better pickups, etc. My guess is you'll take advantage of Carvin's 10-day return policy soon and return the bass for a full refund since it failed to pass the jzucker test?
 
#723
dgce said:
When I buy an instrument, I’m looking to play it not to eventually sell it on eBay. I want it to sound good, play well, and preferably be easy on the eyes. It’s not a stock or a bond. Wanna invest, buy gold or waterfront property. But when it comes to a bass, unless it’s some vintage axe in amazing condition, I wouldn’t think of it in terms of value appreciation.
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+100
 
#724
BigOldHarry said:
Pretty much. Carvin... Not so much. Now, it is possible that the SB series might change that, at least somewhat. I know they've only been out a while, but it really IS just a matter of time before they start appearing on Ebay... The cheapskate in me REALLY wants to wait until then...

It would be an interesting experiment to see what a used SB would go for right now...
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an sb5000 went for $800 in the emporium a couple weeks ago.

I'm still thinking about buying a fretless...
 
#726
Jarrett said:
Oh I see we're comparing the purchase of used instruments that have been on the market long enough to establish a stable resale value to the price of a new bass model that recently came out and has only had one or two hit the market so far. Gotcha.

So you came into the thread saying Sadowskys are the best. Then bought an in stock SB5000, got it and didn't like it initially. Then came back and said it was the best bass you'd played in years, then came back and said the pickups hum and that other significantly more expensive, Japanese made basses have better setup, lower action before it buzzes, zero issues, no hum, better preamp, better pickups, etc. My guess is you'll take advantage of Carvin's 10-day return policy soon and return the bass for a full refund since it failed to pass the jzucker test?
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Geez...This place can be so nasty. Sorry for voicing an opinion that differs from the collective.
 
#727
Buy a Carvin SB bass and put Sadowsky pickups and preamp in it. Problem solved:bassist::D

FYI I bought a used SB400 loaded with a figured maple top, orangeburst, and active electronics for under 1k. List would have been around $1250. Sold it a few months later for what I paid for it. Wish I still had it though!

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#728
If I use a bass on 30 gigs (Which I probably have in the last couple of months), I don't really care a lot about the resale value. If I used it twice, I probably would. I like to buy things and beat them into the ground, if possible.
 
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dgce said:
When I buy an instrument, I’m looking to play it not to eventually sell it on eBay. I want it to sound good, play well, and preferably be easy on the eyes. It’s not a stock or a bond. Wanna invest, buy gold or waterfront property. But when it comes to a bass, unless it’s some vintage axe in amazing condition, I wouldn’t think of it in terms of value appreciation.
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This gets a HUGE +1 from me.
 
#730
jzucker said:
Geez...This place can be so nasty. Sorry for voicing an opinion that differs from the collective.
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Jack, you had to expect some sort of response. It appeared like your were trolling a Carvin thread saying Sadowskys are better. If you tried the opposite in the Sadowsky thread they would roast you 10 times worse. Just like any roll call thread, the owners are trying to share their enjoyment of their bass with others. Not fend off constant criticisms of the instruments they are enjoying.
 
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Jarrett said:
Jack, you had to expect some sort of response. It appeared like your were trolling a Carvin thread saying Sadowskys are better. If you tried the opposite in the Sadowsky thread they would roast you 10 times worse. Just like any roll call thread, the owners are trying to share their enjoyment of their bass with others. Not fend off constant criticisms of the instruments they are enjoying.
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Trolling, I bought a !@#$ carvin for god's sake. Get over it. It's a tool. These forums are just so full of fan-bois it's pitiful. It's a shame you can't rationally discuss pros and cons of gear. It's like the bass was someone's mother or something.
 
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I don't see where anyone is being irrational. I do see that you appear to losing your temper though, sorry about that. My suggestion to you on discussing pros and cons of J-type basses would be to open a thread that specifically for that. Maybe a Sadowsky Metro v. Carvin SB5000 v. whatever else thread. I'm sure people would flock to it and give their opinion on the pros and cons of each. That would help keep the appreciation threads a little more civil I bet.
 
#735
dgce said:
When I buy an instrument, I’m looking to play it not to eventually sell it on eBay. I want it to sound good, play well, and preferably be easy on the eyes. It’s not a stock or a bond. Wanna invest, buy gold or waterfront property. But when it comes to a bass, unless it’s some vintage axe in amazing condition, I wouldn’t think of it in terms of value appreciation.
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+1. Resale is irrelevant to my purchasing decision.

Carvin gets a bad rap for resale value but then again they don't cost that much (for the quality you're getting) to begin with. Overall, they're really no worse than many other brands.
 
#737
I've gone thought many basses this year and really lost big time on resale, but you know what I don,t care, I was able to try out basses that wasn't available to me other wise and that the chance we take when owning any bass. Basses are like cars some will hold it value and others won't. So let get back to the pro and con.
 
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BigOldHarry said:
Oh, you don't KNOW how the TB Hive can be... Just don't mention Tal, flatwounds, tube amps or "Vintage" 1976 Fenders... :p
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Ok... I'm relatively new here, so I'll bite...

What's wrong with Tal? Are we talking about this Tal:
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#740
I thought this was amusing...

I just spec'd out 2 SB's...a 4000 and a 5000. Same body and neck woods, same color, etc.; the SB5000 came out just $40 dollars more than the SB4000 because the standard 4000 comes as a passive bass and to add the preamp and mid control is an extra $75. Both basses are under $1000...that is a damn good deal no matter how you look at it.
 
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