Yes! Man, I'm really digging that color. I'm thinking the exact same thing but with a red tortoise shell pickguard and cream pickup covers.
Something like this Kick *** Valenti:
Hmmmmmmmmmm..........
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Carvin SB5000 / SB4000 Roll Call!
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Yes! Man, I'm really digging that color. I'm thinking the exact same thing but with a red tortoise shell pickguard and cream pickup covers.
Something like this Kick *** Valenti:
Hmmmmmmmmmm..........
If you're all up in that copper look, take a look at the Warmoth web site - there is a very interesting body for sale you might dig...
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No, it wasn't you...
Well, frankly I haven't totally bonded with the setup yet. What happened was that I bought a bx500 to pair up with an epifunky 2x10. The combination sounded fantastic. However, the bx500 went belly-up on day 2 or 3 so I arranged to send it back and I bought a genz benz shuttle 6 which I thought was amazing.
However, carvin ended up sending me a new bx500 instead of a refund so when I compared the 2 I decided I liked the carvin better . Then, I decided to upgrade the epifunky because it's a bit spongey at times and folks were raving about the BRX 210 cab so I bought one used off ebay. So far, it seems to have the same thuddy sound that I've heard from most of the neo speaker cabs other than the Epifani UL-210 and Euphonic NL-210.
The bx500 through the epifunky 210 still sounds great albeit a bit weak in the extreme low register of the B string. I may try putting Delta 10" speakers in the carvin and see if that improves things. Otherwise, I may sell it and look for an Epi UL 2x10
*Interesting*! - You liked the sound of the Carvin more the GB! Eeeeenteresting...
And it is annoying how many of these newer Class-D amps have "issues" (that's another active thread...) - - Otherwise, I'd be all over that.
Now, as far cabs - my primary cab is a Epifani NYC 2x10 and I could NOT be happier. No matter what amp I run on it, it sounds GREAT. Thus far, I have been underwhelmed by the neo cabs I've tried out, and that includes the Epifunky. I'll bet that if you find a NYC Epifani on Ebay, you'll be happy you did. Sure, it's not light... but we're bassists! We are *supposed* to have strong backs, right? So were I you, I'd steer clear of the UL2x10 if you don't like the "Epifunky". Heck, I don't much like the whole "epifunky" idea, it being offshored & all...
Good luck
Wow... metallic tobacco sunburst! That looks awesome! Thanks for the tip.
Yeah, If I had a "need", I'd buy that body and build me a fun, funky bass right *now*...
The epifunky uses non neo speakers I was told. I actually like the sound of it but I don't think it can handle high sound pressure very well. It sounds tighter than the carvin brx. I kind of wondered if it's the shelf vs oval port issue but last time I mentioned that I was tarred and feathered here. Whatever the reason, neither cab is as tight sounding as the EA NL210 I used to have. I'll search for the NYC Epi though...
oh and by the way, the BX500 is a fantastic amp. Very clear and transparent sounding. The genz has a little bit more LMII vibe to it whereas the carvin is more transparent and versatile. You can make the carvin sound like the MB but you can't make the MB or genz sound clear like the carvin...
The epifunky uses non neo speakers I was told. I actually like the sound of it but I don't think it can handle high sound pressure very well. It sounds tighter than the carvin brx. I kind of wondered if it's the shelf vs oval port issue but last time I mentioned that I was tarred and feathered here. Whatever the reason, neither cab is as tight sounding as the EA NL210 I used to have. I'll search for the NYC Epi though...
Good on ya - you won't be disappointed. I've read that the "Performance Series" is the same as the older NYC, but I dunno - I've never gotten to check one out.
A good buddy of mine decided he didn't like the Epi he bought because it was A) kinda heavy and B) had "Too much bass". This notion of "too much bass" made my brain hurt. A 2x10 with "Too much bass"??? So take that for what it's worth. I know that I played an outdoor gig a few weeks ago using just my 2x10 and it RIPPED.
Now, if you are interested in a 4x10 NYC epi, I got one I'm selling... I just never need it as I have two 2x10s...
I bet if you quit with the name calling things would be a lot more civil. Let' try not to make this like a TGP blow up or something. People will disagree with you. Doesn't mean they are childish or need to be called names because of it.
I've been gigging with a BR515 for a couple of months now. I'm SOOOOOOOO happy I got this amp. My "ooow my aching back" days are over. Light, powerful, versitile. I'm getting by with just the combo alone. However I think I will get a Carvin 2x10 to get the full 500watts and to push more air. I'm sure it will be killer.
The last thing I want to do is fuel the fire here, but having owned a total of nine Carvin's and two Sadowsky Metro's, I feel the need to weigh in on the discussion. If I am to be labeled a fanboi(?) of either, I suppose Carvin has earned it with my money. For the record, I am now currently down to two Carvin's and one Metro.
In my opinion (for what it's worth), nothing I have tried sounds better than the Sadowsky. That obviously does not make it a fact, it's just my opinion. We should all know at this point that tone is a subjective thing and I simply prefer the modern tone of the Sadowsky. That said, my SB4000 sounds freakin' sweet!! At last week's gig I ran the SB4000 through my Carvin B1500 and the tone was to die for!! I remember thinking to myself "wow, this sounds almost as good as my Sad..." well, you get the point. Let me put it this way though...it would be much easier for me to live without the Sadowsky (if need be) now that I have my SB4000. I'm sorry if anyone views that as a jab at Carvin because it was not meant to be. In any case, for those that are not comfortable dishing out the extra cash for a Metro or simply prefer more of a tradtional J-bass vibe, I'm sure you will be thrilled with an SB series bass. I certainly have no regrets buying mine.
One area where I feel the Carvin holds it's own against the Sadowsky is build quality. One of the things that kept me going back to Carvin to order bass after bass is the build quality. If Sadowsky's build quality is actually better than Carvin's, then I'm not sure where it is. All of my Carvin's have felt very solid, had great fretwork, excellent setup and ZERO issues.
Still, the Sadowsky feels more comfortable in my hands. The SB4000 is not far off but I find myself reaching more to get to those higher frets. However, in Carvin's favor, I am totally digging the fresh new look of my SB4000. I don't know of any players on the local scene that have one yet...except for me.
In my opinion (for what it's worth), nothing I have tried sounds better than the Sadowsky. That obviously does not make it a fact, it's just my opinion. We should all know at this point that tone is a subjective thing and I simply prefer the modern tone of the Sadowsky. That said, my SB4000 sounds freakin' sweet!! At last week's gig I ran the SB4000 through my Carvin B1500 and the tone was to die for!! I remember thinking to myself "wow, this sounds almost as good as my Sad..." well, you get the point. Let me put it this way though...it would be much easier for me to live without the Sadowsky (if need be) now that I have my SB4000. I'm sorry if anyone views that as a jab at Carvin because it was not meant to be. In any case, for those that are not comfortable dishing out the extra cash for a Metro or simply prefer more of a tradtional J-bass vibe, I'm sure you will be thrilled with an SB series bass. I certainly have no regrets buying mine.
One area where I feel the Carvin holds it's own against the Sadowsky is build quality. One of the things that kept me going back to Carvin to order bass after bass is the build quality. If Sadowsky's build quality is actually better than Carvin's, then I'm not sure where it is. All of my Carvin's have felt very solid, had great fretwork, excellent setup and ZERO issues.
Still, the Sadowsky feels more comfortable in my hands. The SB4000 is not far off but I find myself reaching more to get to those higher frets. However, in Carvin's favor, I am totally digging the fresh new look of my SB4000. I don't know of any players on the local scene that have one yet...except for me.
Huh? You started the whole thing by making childish remarks about "betting that i'll be returning my carvin".
The last thing I want to do is fuel the fire here, but having owned a total of nine Carvin's and two Sadowsky Metro's, I feel the need to weigh in on the discussion. If I am to be labeled a fanboi(?) of either, I suppose Carvin has earned it with my money. For the record, I am now currently down to two Carvin's and one Metro.
In my opinion (for what it's worth), nothing I have tried sounds better than the Sadowsky. That obviously does not make it a fact, it's just my opinion. We should all know at this point that tone is a subjective thing and I simply prefer the modern tone of the Sadowsky. That said, my SB4000 sounds freakin' sweet!! At last week's gig I ran the SB4000 through my Carvin B1500 and the tone was to die for!! I remember thinking to myself "wow, this sounds almost as good as my Sad..." well, you get the point. Let me put it this way though...it would be much easier for me to live without the Sadowsky (if need be) now that I have my SB4000. I'm sorry if anyone views that as a jab at Carvin because it was not meant to be. In any case, for those that are not comfortable dishing out the extra cash for a Metro or simply prefer more of a tradtional J-bass vibe, I'm sure you will be thrilled with an SB series bass. I certainly have no regrets buying mine.
One area where I feel the Carvin holds it's own against the Sadowsky is build quality. One of the things that kept me going back to Carvin to order bass after bass is the build quality. If Sadowsky's build quality is actually better than Carvin's, then I'm not sure where it is. All of my Carvin's have felt very solid, had great fretwork, excellent setup and ZERO issues.
Still, the Sadowsky feels more comfortable in my hands. The SB4000 is not far off but I find myself reaching more to get to those higher frets. However, in Carvin's favor, I am totally digging the fresh new look of my SB4000. I don't know of any players on the local scene that have one yet...except for me.
This conversation involving the comparison between the Sadowsky Metro and the SB series is interesting - I had spent some time with a few SB5000s when I went to a buddy's place to play his new Metro and I was stunned by how much more I liked the Carvin...
And this should NOT be an "Apples to apples" comparison: The Sadowsky, even the Metro, is a whole 'nuther price category - - so there should be no comparison... yet there is, which is very good news for Carvin and its brand cachet...
Besides... I really like the idea of supporting a company that provides jobs to several hundred people in *my* community. I don't own one now, but I hope like heck that the SB series finally puts Carvin into the mainstream with players. I also hope that Carvin learns some things from this... By that, I mean when I side-by-side compared the SB5000's at the factory store with 5 string Icon's and other of their neck through basses, there was no doubt: The SB just blew them away. Why? The neck. The neck felt SO much more correct. The fingerboard radius was *just right* and the neck itself felt great. So if they sell enough SB's, they might do a bit of re-engineering on the Icon & LB lines. I'll tell ya -if the Icon played and sounded as good as the SB, I would have bought one by now - - they are gorgeous basses.
I agree. I love the carvin though. I'm hoping it'll get closer with the dimarzio ultra jazz pickups which is what sadowsky uses. I have the feeling that the carvin is using graphite rods in the neck for stabilization. If so, that may explain part of the tonal difference because they definitely change the sound. It's all subjective of course...
Again with the names. Asking nicely, please ease up on that. And I never said I bet anything. Gotta read a little closer and hopefully work on not taking Internet forums so personally.
hmmmm....Please stop this and take it offline. And for the record, I didn't come onto this thread slinging arrows. I came honestly to get info on a bass which i ended up buying and loving but which I have a few honest criticisms of. I only responded about the sadowsky following 4 or 5 other comments saying it was better than the sadowsky
lol, this is tame compared to what i went through in the f bass thread after i bought my vf-5 and had some criticisms of it.
and its a bass i still have 8 months later and dont intend to get rid of.on topic- i want a sb5000 and i have absolutely no need for one
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