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CheapGuitarStores.com "replica Chinese basses"
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Has nothing to do with making me happy. But throwing opinion around like it is a fact when it's clearly not should be pointed out. That's all.
If I bought one of those, looking at it every day it would remind me that I have little or no moral compass.
Never ceases to amaze me the various acts that get rationalized. Yet another "victimless crime."
"But dude, I got a deal..."
Ymmv.
Never ceases to amaze me the various acts that get rationalized. Yet another "victimless crime."
"But dude, I got a deal..."
Ymmv.
Vantage is Matsumoku
the headstock is different from Gibson and Epi
but the problem is Gibson and other companies
outsource to Asian companies to save on costs
so when it comes back and bites them in the arse
they really can't squeal
They let the wolf in.
A lot of guitars and basses were built by Samick
for instance.
the headstock is different from Gibson and Epi
but the problem is Gibson and other companies
outsource to Asian companies to save on costs
so when it comes back and bites them in the arse
they really can't squeal
They let the wolf in.
A lot of guitars and basses were built by Samick
for instance.
If you own a million dollar Astrobass (for example)
and some other guy buys a copy for fewer dollars
does it take the sheen off your million dollar baby?
and some other guy buys a copy for fewer dollars
does it take the sheen off your million dollar baby?
No it doesn't. But that isn't the point. It is what it can do to the Astrobass company and their brand.
And if buying a copy makes someone happy, it would be interesting to know why, as I fail to see any upside that includes the concept of integrity.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
Dude, you miss the point. Gibson has the right to build stuff overseas. That does NOT give the overseas manufacturers the right to misappropriate protected intellectual property.
Replica, because you never know. There are dozens of P and J copies and some are just as good as the more expensive Fenders. My Chinese made SX Ursa 1 is a prime example. Looks and sounds just as good as any MIM Fender P Ive ever owned and it was 1/4 of the price. I couldn't care less the headstock says SX and not Fender.
It devalues its resale value by damaging the overall brand's reputation, so yes, it does.
Now we get to the crux of the difference in opinions
If I was holding an original there's no way I would feel mine was
devalued in any way. Authentication is key.
So the copy looks the same
until you pop the hood
and see what's underneath.
You really think if you had a Ricky
and some guy bought a Tricky
it devalues your purchase or your instrument?
How?
Heard this argument regarding Cobra replicas versus real Cobras. The people buying the replicas can't afford to buy the real ones. Real ones in limited supply.
Please explain how exactly the replica devalues the original.
I'm all for copyright, trademark, intellectual property rights.
Your position doesn't hold water.
buldog5151bass
Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.
I get so tired of this. The P and J copies are legal. Other than headstock shape (which is why other than licensed copies like with Warmoth, these copies have different shapes), those are not protected IP property. The counterfeits are ILLEGAL.
Blame the victim. I suppose if someone steals your bass from your house it is your fault for not securing it well enough.
Someone stealing from my house is indeed criminal
Giving the specs and dimensions to outsourcers
who catalog them and duplicate with minor changes
is something else completely.
Value is based on scarcity. By creating a substitute, scarcity is reduced; that is, there are fewer people desiring the same number of items. The value decreases because there is less competition for the item.
Say you have an original 58 Strat
I have a Samick copy
we both have papers
are you saying, do you believe
that a collector would think your original
is devalued by my copy?
Can a diamond be devalued by glass?
Ever?
Noting that the substitute is virtually always of much lesser quality than the original, thereby damaging brand reputation and suppressing resale values even further than mere dilution.
Sorry Ross, the argument holds plenty of water. Besides, I don't really care about the argument, I've been trying to discuss the legality of the issue, and that is very clear cut, in my opinion. I personally think the moral and ethical implications are just as obvious, but everyone gets to make their own call on those. The law, on the other hand, doesn't give a (darn) what you think of the argument.
Clearly the answer is yes. I don't particularly care whether you agree or not.
