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Chris Squire on NPR rant

That was an interesting listen, thank you. Actually, the interview with Rabin and the demo confirms what I was saying - yes, Rabin wrote a lot of material, some of it before the project became a Yes project and maybe even earlier. But the album didn't become what it became until it was Yes. Rabin says in the interview that Squire and Anderson added to and changed what he had created and deserved the credits they got, he was mostly reacting against Trevor Horn claiming to have also co-written it. If you listen to the demo compared to the final, you can completely hear why. The lyrics are the demo are very "tangible," a song about an introverted guy who doesn't want to go clubbing. Sounds like something Foreigner would have done. The final lyrics still have that underlying theme but are much more abstract - "The eagle in the sky, how he dances one and only." That's pure Anderson, not Rabin. And the demo does NOT have Squire's bass line, if you listen - only the basic riff which Squire joins in, but none of the fills, and the rolling chorus bass line is completely absent. You can see how this demo is the seed of the final song but it wouldn't have been the same if it had remained a Trevor Rabin tune.

My understanding is that Trevor Rabin had been a pop star in South Africa and had gone to London hoping to break into the international music scene. Yes was at a watershed - Anderson had left, and then the Buggles had too (Horn and Downes), and Steve Howe went to join Asia. All that was left were Squire and White. Apparently there's been some contradiction in the interviews; White said that as far as he ever thought, they were just at a point where they had to rebuild Yes, and getting Tony Kaye back and bringing Rabin on were part of that plan from the beginning. Seems to me he must have just been oblivious and out of the loop. Squire and Horn say that Yes was done and they were looking to create a new project. They did demos with Jimmy Page for a project called XYZ (Ex-Yes and -Zeppelin) where Chris was going to sing lead as well, but the chemistry wasn't there and it didn't move forward (the demos are around, and they're not great). Then Horn hooked them up with Rabin for the "Cinema" project, which morphed back into Yes only when they called Anderson in. Howe was ticked when he heard about it because he had gone to Asia on the understanding that Yes was disbanded and now here they were putting an album out without him.

And there you go, quite the hodge podge. Which proves my own p.o.v. as well. Sure it's YES, of course, sort of. Probably the most disjointed, circuitous version ever, which led to a very different sounding album, a big step away from all previous YES methodologies, and even a lot of misinformation and opposing p.o.v.s amongst themselves and the music press. -- No argument. Nothing to convince me of. -- And in the hands of YES people, of course the Rabin songs developed as a result - thank dog :)
 
For me, the Fragile album was fresh when it came out. The music was totally different from anything I heard up to that point and it was obvious to me that Yes was a band of highly professional musicians. The intricate changes that the music goes through keeps the music fresh to this day. As a bass player, the sound that Chris Squire produced from his bass was simply rocking! Chris Squire played rock music in a melodic and intricate way. Paul McCartney was melodic, but Chris Squire was "electric" like lightening. Fragile Yes is just a fantastic and timeless work of art. Close To The Edge and Tales of The Topographic Oceans are also classics, but these works were created during the AOR period, which meant that they were themed. Other groups that I liked at that time were John Mclaughlin and the Mahavishnu Orchestra (Birds of Fire), ELP (Brain Salad Surgery), Pink Floyd (Meddle, DSOTM).

I can understand you not liking Yes being that the music was far from anything mainstream. Chris Squire, Rick Wakeman, Steve Howe, Jon Anderson and Alan White were unique.

BTW, I'm a big fan of Car Talk too! Saturday morning... 9am cst!

Nothing against Alan White but the Bill Bruford era was the ultimate Yes lineup for me. Still one of my favorite percussionists.
 
@reddog

May I suggest you give a listen to:

"Yours Is No Disgrace"
"I've Seen All Good People"
"Long Distance Runaround"
"The Fish (Schindleria Praematurus)"
"Heart of the Sunrise"
"And You and I"
"Siberian Khatru"

I think these tunes would give you a good footing in early-mid Yes and in particular, because Bruford was the drummer, the interplay between the bass and drums is particularly good. I always liked Bruford's drumming more than his replacement, Alan White.

Mind reader.
:D

That's one of my favorite playlists when I'm on a long drive. The interplay between Squire and Bruford is amazing and when you consider it came out of nowhere in the early 1970's... Squire's timing and note choices played against Bruford's unique feel blew me away then and still holds up today. Like Rocco Prestia & Dave Garibaldi or Paul Jackson & Mike Clarke, the sum of these tandems was greater than the parts and the magic wasn't there with other pairings.
 
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I haven't brought it up here in deference to Mr. Squire, but Bruford relates a few issues he had with Squire in the book. IIRC, they were not musical issues, but rather Bruford felt it was very unprofessional of Squire to always, always be late and keep his fellow band mates waiting for gigs, practices and so on.
 
One of my all time favorite interviews. Chris Squire met Jimi Hendrix...


Although I can certainly appreciate the musicianship and know it's heresy around these parts, I admit to not being a big fan of Yes (nor Rush nor most prog rock in general). But, man, I could listen to Chris telling stories for a long, long time.
 
Yeah, that is probably one of my favorite 'views' that Chris did as well. And a good measure of the man, for those that never had the pleasure to meet him in person.
And @JollySpudd, thanks for the Rabin, linkey. It never ceases to amaze me, the minutiae that is floating around on the net. Thanks for snagging and reeling this one in.
With that demo clip, my curiosity has been sated to no longer wonder about, what the lovechild of Thomas Dolby, & Grace Slick, would have sounded like. :D
 
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As regards the initial post rant.

Search and due diligence my bass brethren.

I am 62 and listen to NPR daily.

On Monday morning Renee Montagne (age 65) was the first to break the news regarding Chris Squire passing.

At the time all she had was initial scant information regarding Chris' s passing.

Her segments utilized "Roundabout" for the bed track.

As the day progressed the segment evolved into more information and subsequently different bed tracks.

I would surmise the later segments were done by younger production room techs.

So throughout the day the info and bed tracks evolved and became versatile for those unique individuals that followed in the "on air chair" .

Quite the tribute to a unique, evolving and versatile bassist.

RIP Chris
You will be missed and remembered.

P.S.

Did not hear squat on the local "classic rock" FM station. At least until Alice Cooper ' s show came on Monday evening.
 
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