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Club Alleva Coppolo (Part 11!)

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#941
sps500 said:
Ok anyone willing to give us the lowdown on the new RR and BV signature models and anyone got their hands on them as well as the resurrection model...
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The Ruben Rodriguez bass is an RA5 with an extended cutaway to reach the last fret with ease, I call it the "Ruben cutaway" and am still comtemplating on getting it for my incoming LM5. It's also got a fat; and I mean fat; neck profile... A man's man neck if you know what I mean. Those are the 2 main differences I recall.

The Bobby Vega is an LG4 that all passive, with a control plate and a '62 style stack knob setup. It's also got the old school string mutes.

For all intents and purposes I see the Resurrection as a passive LG4 with a plate... Maybe some dimensions are different but I didn't ask Jimmy about it... Don't think I even played it at NAMM. Hmmmm....
 
#944
YCBass said:
The Ruben Rodriguez bass is an RA5 with an extended cutaway to reach the last fret with ease, I call it the "Ruben cutaway" and am still comtemplating on getting it for my incoming LM5. It's also got a fat; and I mean fat; neck profile... A man's man neck if you know what I mean. Those are the 2 main differences I recall.
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When I was checking out the Cappolo's, just about the only
thing I didn't love, was the fact that I couldn't reach the top
few notes. This was especially frustrating coming from a bass
with a two octave neck. The explanation I got was that there
were no "money" notes up that high on the bass. Why would
you want to play up there anyways?!

It was a total turn off, even if it was mostly tongue in cheek.
Why is it fine for "name" player to get basses you can really
use, but the rest of us would have to pay a chunk of money
for that same option?
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#945
B String said:
When I was checking out the Cappolo's, just about the only
thing I didn't love, was the fact that I couldn't reach the top
few notes. This was especially frustrating coming from a bass
with a two octave neck. The explanation I got was that there
were no "money" notes up that high on the bass. Why would
you want to play up there anyways?!

It was a total turn off, even if it was mostly tongue in cheek.
Why is it fine for "name" player to get basses you can really
use, but the rest of us would have to pay a chunk of money
for that same option?
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Jimmy told me the same thing when I said I was considering the extended cut... And really, I think he's right. I mean really, I know we go back and forth here on TB about what is "bass playing" but bass players usually don't get hired to play up there. But that doesn't mean I don't want it. :D

I don't think Ruben got it cause he's a name player, I'm sure a lot of it is his close friendship with Jimmy and who knows how much back and forth went on before Jimmy decided to give in. And in fairness, Jimmy has not said anything about the extended cut being an option and has not posted a price if it were available... So the end of your post is a bit premature.

And to clarify what I meant about considering the extended cut for my LM5... I mean, I was considering trying to convince Jimmy to do it on mine... Not sure if he will.
 
#946
YCBass said:
Jimmy told me the same thing when I said I was considering the extended cut... And really, I think he's right. I mean really, I know we go back and forth here on TB about what is "bass playing" but bass players usually don't get hired to play up there. But that doesn't mean I don't want it. :D

I don't think Ruben got it cause he's a name player, I'm sure a lot of it is his close friendship with Jimmy and who knows how much back and forth went on before Jimmy decided to give in. And in fairness, Jimmy has not said anything about the extended cut being an option and has not posted a price if it were available... So the end of your post is a bit premature.

And to clarify what I meant about considering the extended cut for my LM5... I mean, I was considering trying to convince Jimmy to do it on mine... Not sure if he will.
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I may have a different opinion about this than some, but these
aren't cheap basses. I'd buy one of these to be my "dance
partner" bass. Sometimes I'm hired to play a certain function
as a bassist. Other times I'm more of an artist and an equal to
the rest of the ensemble. I can play all the notes on my stock
Fender mia deluxe 5, my 60's Fenders, and all the boutique
basses I've ever owned.
Please help me understand the "dumbing down" reasoning on
these wonderfully made, very expensive basses. Also, I'd bet
money that if Cappolo would make a bass more playable,
you're gonna pay extra for the time and effort.
 
#947
B String said:
I may have a different opinion about this than some, but these
aren't cheap basses. I'd buy one of these to be my "dance
partner" bass. Sometimes I'm hired to play a certain function
as a bassist. Other times I'm more of an artist and an equal to
the rest of the ensemble. I can play all the notes on my stock
Fender mia deluxe 5, my 60's Fenders, and all the boutique
basses I've ever owned.
Please help me understand the "dumbing down" reasoning on
these wonderfully made, very expensive basses. Also, I'd bet
money that if Cappolo would make a bass more playable,
you're gonna pay extra for the time and effort.
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I'm with you on having a bass that you can fully use... For whatever you feel like playing, and if that extra note makes a big difference for you then so be it. But the current models we know are based on old school Fenders and I don't see Jimmy deviating from that too much.

But let me tell you this, I've spent a lot of time with Jimmy since I met him... And the man is an artist and is constantly thinking. I asked him before about a 35" scale bass and he said he would consider making one but will probably change the shape and other things, almost like because he didn't want to mess with that classic formula we all know and love.
 
#949
B String said:
I may have a different opinion about this than some, but these
aren't cheap basses. I'd buy one of these to be my "dance
partner" bass. Sometimes I'm hired to play a certain function
as a bassist. Other times I'm more of an artist and an equal to
the rest of the ensemble. I can play all the notes on my stock
Fender mia deluxe 5, my 60's Fenders, and all the boutique
basses I've ever owned.
Please help me understand the "dumbing down" reasoning on
these wonderfully made, very expensive basses. Also, I'd bet
money that if Cappolo would make a bass more playable,
you're gonna pay extra for the time and effort.
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I don't want to be the spelling police but it's Coppolo.

I think it's pretty simple Jimmy makes basses the way he wants to and is very successful doing it. If he does customizations to your specs thats a bonus but not always gonna happen
 
#950
YCBass said:
I'm with you on having a bass that you can fully use... For whatever you feel like playing, and if that extra note makes a big difference for you then so be it. But the current models we know are based on old school Fenders and I don't see Jimmy deviating from that too much.

But let me tell you this, I've spent a lot of time with Jimmy since I met him... And the man is an artist and is constantly thinking. I asked him before about a 35" scale bass and he said he would consider making one but will probably change the shape and other things, almost like because he didn't want to mess with that classic formula we all know and love.
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I have absolute respect for Jimmy's skill and knowledge. If his
basses are based on old school, I have a 60 P and a 64 Jazz.
All of the notes are accessible on these basses. They are also
four string basses. Perhaps Jimmy doesn't want to change the
body dimensions to accommodate the fifth string. Fender and
Sadowsky (among others) have done this and I think it looks
fine.
Still and all...very nice basses.
 
#952
B String said:
I have absolute respect for Jimmy's skill and knowledge. If his
basses are based on old school, I have a 60 P and a 64 Jazz.
All of the notes are accessible on these basses. They are also
four string basses. Perhaps Jimmy doesn't want to change the
body dimensions to accommodate the fifth string. Fender and
Sadowsky (among others) have done this and I think it looks
fine.
Still and all...very nice basses.
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The old school basses have 20 frets (???), the 5 string A-C's I speak of have 21 hence the challenge to reach all the way... But the 20 frets are very accessible.
 
#953
peterpalmieri said:
I don't want to be the spelling police but it's Coppolo.
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If you hadn't'a I woulda'. :D

I think it's pretty simple Jimmy makes basses the way he wants to and is very successful doing it. If he does customizations to your specs thats a bonus but not always gonna happen
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Jimmy has never advertised himself as a total "anything you want in a J type bass" custom shop. He builds to designs with fairly specific goals. If he chooses to support significant custom options like custom body shapes or alternate scale lengths on his established models, that's fine, but I wouldn't "fault" him for choosing not to offer that.

Just means he doesn't have what you want, and you have to shop elsewhere. Thankfully, there are plenty of great choices out there these days, so that's not really a problem.

Bottom line, yeah, go ahead, throw a custom request his way, but don't take it personal and be offended if he decides it's not within his design philosophy bounds to provide it. Besides, there's something to be said for this... he may be concerned about maintaining some product consistency by generally limiting those design bounds, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
 
#955
I know Jimmy has gotten quite backed up over the last year, rightfully so he makes a great bass, I am hoping this will be done some time this month!

Pete

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#960
Yes and yes....
That bell cover is actually off my old Atelier Z M265 it fit perfectly with some double stick tape.It's off now as with the Jimmy's 21 fret necks it sits a touch closer to the neck heel and not as comfy as on my jazz basses.
Yes I have been using that GT6-B for years and when there programmed correctly can be incredible tools...Some gigs I take my pedal board to and others the GT.
 
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