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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 18)

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#821
mothra2 said:
You might be observing more about Jimmy's build/PU's there than you are about the Fender maple/alder build, as Geddy plays one and ain't nobody called him sluggish sounding :rollno: (my Fender GL absolutely SMOKES!).
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I thought this AC forum topic was about the comparative sounds of those basses.

I honestly don't see how a Geddy Lee Jazz jumps into that arena ? I assume we are talking a non 72 Jazz bass, the Made in Japan model that sell locally for about $1000--- and everyone I saw was passive and a 4 string and only 20 frets. I could hardly put a Fender Geddy Lee beside a MasterBuilt Made in the USA, active/passive, custom home made pickups, 21 frets, and a 5 string bass guitar.

My comment about sluggish was purely based on the enclosed A-B tests. Yup I agree nothing sluggish about homeboy (Toronto) on any of the basses he has used throughout his long career. I am curious how the Geddy Lee would have sounded actually in that AC- AB test.

Cheers ;)
 
#827
narud said:
totally disagree. i own the boutique stuff and ive got some monstrosities that sound as good as anything.
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I really have to agree with this as well. And with me owning several boutique instruments, folks should have every expectation I'd be a die hard boutique defender, but the truth is, there really are "pedestrian" instruments out there that truly compare to the boutique stuff from a "musical" (tone/playability) standpoint, which, if we have to be honest with ourselves, should matter the most.

This is why it's often such a can of worms when people feel like they're put on the defensive for spending tons of cash on a bass and someone questions their choice to do so.

It all just boils down to what you can, and are willing, to spend on what inspires you most. It's not necessarily always about pure logic and economics.

IMHO anyway.
 
#830
I don't want to pile on here but I would add that when it comes to fender style basses I've found it much easier to find a 4 string that agrees with me. It's the 5 string versions that I find it more difficult to find something I'm happy with off the shelf at a local GC or similar type store.
 
#832
I know we're kinda past the subject but I just wanted to give props to Jimmy, Rick and my man Mitch Starkman for the clips... As mentioned before it is probably the best source yet as to the comparison between models... And the playing... Wow, awesome as usual Mitch! You got me practicing some of your licks now!

Great work all around!

And as for my LG's status, hopefully it'll be ready by the Bassacre... Can't wait!
 
#833
My reasons for playing/owning AC:
-committed, artisan grade craftsmanship.
-a preamp/pickup combination that continues to sound passive and organic, even if you choose to use a lot of boost.
-when these things (and some others, yeah) combine with someone I genuinely like and respect, if I have the coin I'm happy to spend it supporting a small company that's kickin' it.
 
#834
Great playing Mitch.....as always! A very useful comparison between Jimmy's models. I'm sure you didn't have the time to fully "STARKMANIZE" those basses but they all sound good and thick like all ACs. Your setups are the best and you can really bring out the potential of any instrument. Can't wait for the vids to be edited and posted. I think I'm still partial to alder bodies.
 
#836
adarvas said:
Great playing Mitch.....as always! A very useful comparison between Jimmy's models. I'm sure you didn't have the time to fully "STARKMANIZE" those basses but they all sound good and thick like all ACs. Your setups are the best and you can really bring out the potential of any instrument. Can't wait for the vids to be edited and posted. I think I'm still partial to alder bodies.
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+1 See, all the guys up here in Toronto already know about Mitch' monster talent. Whether he is playing the ultra sweet LM, the Jaco-esq LG or the highly versatile RA, the result is always the same, some of the tightest, thick-assed grooves you'll ever hear, with just the right amount of stank and grit to give the funk it's due.

The A-C SoundCloud clips clearly present each bass in a highly professional light, without any excess redundant flash or BS. With all due respect to the entire A-C pose, Jimmy could not ask for a more knowledgeable or highly skilled player to showcase his basses. I personally consider it an honor to know Mitch and I also plan on stealing ( I mean borrowing ) as many of his licks as I can thanks to those clips.;)

Cheers,
Paul Theriault
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#837
These clips sound great! Should be very helpful for those trying to decide on what to get.

The sound of the LMs are VERY consistent...mine sounds just like that one in the clip (and so does Ken's). The one from the NAMM video last year with Marcus playing it sounds the same as well.
 
#838
peterpalmieri said:
I don't want to pile on here but I would add that when it comes to fender style basses I've found it much easier to find a 4 string that agrees with me. It's the 5 string versions that I find it more difficult to find something I'm happy with off the shelf at a local GC or similar type store.
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Didn't think I would be piled on in the A-C Club thread. I have nothing again Fenders (I own a few) and agree it is possible to get as good a sound out of a production bass as an A-C. However, the one Geddy Lee I've owned and the 3-4 other I've played pale in comparison to my RA4, IME/IME/YMMV. One of the main things you are paying for in a boutique instrument is consistent quality and playability. I am sure the are some killer GL jazzes out there but you might need to hunt to find one. Every A-C I've played was killer.
 
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The A-C SoundCloud clips clearly present each bass in a highly professional light, without any excess redundant flash or BS. With all due respect to the entire A-C pose, Jimmy could not ask for a more knowledgeable or highly skilled player to showcase his basses. I personally consider it an honor to know Mitch and I also plan on stealing ( I mean borrowing ) as many of his licks as I can thanks to those clips.;)

Cheers,
Paul Theriault
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a BIG +1 to that. If Mitch wasn't such a great player, he should be a builder. I have never met anyone with such a keen antenna for the details of sound and attention to setup details. He set up both my LG and RA and while they were great basses out of the box, now they are two of the best basses I've ever played. I'm lucky to have a friend like Mitch and Jimmy has done well to have him as his "Northern Ambassador". One side effect of knowing Mitch is bad GAS!!
 
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vision said:
These clips sound great! Should be very helpful for those trying to decide on what to get.

The sound of the LMs are VERY consistent...mine sounds just like that one in the clip (and so does Ken's). The one from the NAMM video last year with Marcus playing it sounds the same as well.
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+1 Amazing how consistent all the LM's seem to be (which is a very good thing) regardless of player, etc. Wonderful 70's style J, and as Chef posted, it is the closest thing I've found to that old passive Fender tone in an active 5 string. The perfect fit and finish, rock solid 'old wood', and neck profile is just a bonus!

Here is my current 'favorite clip' from my clip library of m LM5, with the STreamliner and the Thunderchild112. Very nice 'through a tube mic preamp into a mixing board through studio monitor' type vibe!:bassist:

Genz Benz Streamliner 900, Audiokinesis Thunderchild 112, Alleva-Coppolo LM - YouTube

This is more of a 'rig' demonstration versus an A-C demo, but the LM5 sounds GOOD!
 
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