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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 20)

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KJung said:
+1 To me, the key is a builder who makes all the parts work together the get his signature tone and feel... Ken Smith, Fodera, Alleva-Coppolo, F Bass, Sadowsky, Norsdtrand, etc. All great stuff.
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At least one example of a "hybrid" version of this would be Jerzy Drozd. He has proprietary (JeDXS) pickups that were designed originally very specifically to work optimally with the OBP3. More recently he has I think a new version and makes the claim for both the Aggie and the Pope Flexcore as well, so maybe that's a grey area now, but I think originally he really did work pretty specifically with the JeDXS/OBP3 combo. FWIW anyway.
 
#182
Vic said:
At least one example of a "hybrid" version of this would be Jerzy Drozd. He has proprietary (JeDXS) pickups that were designed originally very specifically to work optimally with the OBP3. More recently he has I think a new version and makes the claim for both the Aggie and the Pope Flexcore as well, so maybe that's a grey area now, but I think originally he really did work pretty specifically with the JeDXS/OBP3 combo. FWIW anyway.
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He makes beautiful basses. I am not a fan of the OBP3 though (even though I'm in a current TH500 lovefest, which is supposedly based on the OBP3... I sure don't hear that at all), and when I had my Jerzy, I actually thought that was a strange mismatch to the voicing of those pickups. Pure IMO there. The rest of Jerzy's design is so unique, I always scratched my head that he would just plunk an OBP3 in there. Pure IMO there.
 
#183
KJung said:
He makes beautiful basses. I am not a fan of the OBP3 though (even though I'm in a current TH500 lovefest, which is supposedly based on the OBP3... I sure don't hear that at all), and when I had my Jerzy, I actually thought that was a strange mismatch to the voicing of those pickups. Pure IMO there. The rest of Jerzy's design is so unique, I always scratched my head that he would just plunk an OBP3 in there. Pure IMO there.
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Not to get too OT here, but I did/do like the JD tone, though I do also have some issues with the OBP preamp... mainly functional, but also some tonal.

Back to AC now. :)
 
#184
Vic said:
Nah, I think you are right... at least about some of this. I know there are some mass produced Nordstrand pickups made overseas, as well.

I guess I'd like to know if Jimmy actually makes his preamps, or like Carey, designed it and maybe prototyped it, but still has them made elsewhere for stock. If you wanna' get real detailed, I'd ask if his preamp is PCB based, and if he actually has PCB etching equipment.

Not a big deal at all, but it is kinda' interesting, because at least for the lion's share of Jimmy's instruments, I doubt there are many others in the world doing as much directly as he does (getting back to the OP on this), so the point stands.
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I highly doubt he's etching his own boards.

In any of these cases, I've always been a believer in sourcing the things that someone else could do better than you can. In other words, if you can have someone else wind your pickups or do your finish work at a higher level of quality than you could do it in house, that's the way to go. Particularly if they're executing against your spec.

Totally agreed that it should all be designed to work holistically together -- but I don't care all that much if, after that point, some of the manufacturing is farmed out.
 
#185
Joelc73 said:
I highly doubt he's etching his own boards.

In any of these cases, I've always been a believer in sourcing the things that someone else could do better than you can. In other words, if you can have someone else wind your pickups or do your finish work at a higher level of quality than you could do it in house, that's the way to go. Particularly if they're executing against your spec.

Totally agreed that it should all be designed to work holistically together -- but I don't care all that much if, after that point, some of the manufacturing is farmed out.
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+1
 
#187
KJung said:
The only builder that comes to mind is Fodera, if you count the Mike Pope proprietary preamp as 'in house'.

To me, the important issue is a luthier that designs each piece of the instrument to work together, with their own versions of pickups, preamps, etc. that are designed to work together. So, Nordstrand and Sadowsky reach that important IMO criteria, as do quite a few others.

I actually think external CNC of the rough body and neck, and finish is probably a smart thing to do to decrease delivery/build times and allow the luthier to work on the important stuff. IMO there.
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Doesn't Nordstrand do everything but paint inhouse?
 
#191
It's here! 2013 St Valentines Day Bassarce Who's going?

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#195
esoxhntr said:
What the heck is Korina wood???
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Nice tonewood ...sometimes called Limba too ( various species). I have a fretless with it - you know the bass George.

I've generally liked the wood so it will be interesting to hear how it sounds in a Coppolo package.
 
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