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Club Alleva Coppolo (Part 7)

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Thanks! Yes, I too like the more raw upper mids and slightly bigger low end of the LM also. But there is just 'something' about that combination of warm, tighter low end combined with that more pure top end coming of that poly gloss finished maple board that is really addicting.

The more I play it, it sounds a bit like the LM played through a really good tube loaded studio compressor. It doesn't have that immediacy off the board on the front end of the attack like the LM. The tone is still very bright and alive (versus the LG), but it has just a bit of compression and 'give' to it that makes it very fun to play, and a bit more 'forgiving' than the brutally quick and immediate LM.

The RA might be a very good choice for players who want one J Bass type instrument that can cover the widest range of tones... from very warm and organic (almost LG-ish with the tone control dialed down a bit), to a pretty good aggressive slap and sizzle (almost LM-ish with everything wide open). The only thing this bass won't do particularly well IMO is that fat 'bridge pickup burp' (due, I assume to the 70's bridge pickup placement... I think Narud mentioned this in a previous post when we were discussing this model/spec). It's OK with the bridge pickup favored, but my LG spanks it for that tone (that more Jaco-ish kind of low mid burp tone).
I love your tonal descriptions kinda like describing a bottle of wine or fine whiskey.
 
Just don't take the RA on a gig Ken, the LM will NOT be happy. :cool:

I've had it out twice now, and it is really nice! Again, all personal preference, but the LM is safe, since I really do like that more classic late 70's type ash/maple tone.

However, the cool thing is, the RA stays in Detroit, and the LM is my road bass (it stays in another city)... so both will see lot's of action. The LG will continue to be my 'woodshed' bass, and will see a little bit of gigging on the rare 100% jazz hits I do (although now that I have a fretted Rob Allen that I can actually play in tune, that will see some work in those contexts also!).

All great stuff.

Man, I've become a total fan boy. The RA put me over the edge of 'gushing and giddy'.

Sorry about that:eek::D:bassist:
 
What the heck, I'm on a roll! Here's a very brief clip of the LG5 with relatively broken in DR Lo Rider Nickels. It's not 'night and day' versus the Hi Beams, but I really do hear and like the softer upper treble, the shift of the treble down a bit in general, and that bit more of a warm growl (which I assume will continue to build as these strings get a little older). Again, the TecAmp rig I'm using is BRUTALLY transparent and 'accurate' to my ear, so take that into account. It's not sterile by any means, but it lays bare every frequency to my ear. Through many rigs, this bass would sounds a bit darker, 'warmer', and a bit more old school. I guess I could dial in more 'old school' easily with the PUma 'taste' control (which is similar to the TF Timbre control), but thought the more 'pure into the mixing board' sort of tone would be more helpful in hearing what the bass really sounds like. IMO!

Here's the clip (same everything from the previous clips... rig, volume, location, EQ, etc.):

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And, here's the bass again:

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Ken, thanks! That is a GREAT sounding bass!#@!. It rocks my world more than the RA. Just has more attitude a clear character versus the RA (IMO). The LG5 is sounds great on everything. I even loved the slap tone. Ash/Maple can border on 'uber bright' where the LG slap tone has just a bit of warmth. Dunno in a direct A-B if I'd prefer an LM5 over the LG5 or not. I love that color scheme with the Rosewood board. Had an awesome vintage vibe that screams 'Cool!'

Well done. Really nice clip. It would be illuminating to hear that through the Berg AE410. My best guess is that I would like it even better. But even through the TEC Puma rig, it sounds great. Thanks!

What the heck, I'm on a roll! Here's a very brief clip of the LG5 with relatively broken in DR Lo Rider Nickels. It's not 'night and day' versus the Hi Beams, but I really do hear and like the softer upper treble, the shift of the treble down a bit in general, and that bit more of a warm growl (which I assume will continue to build as these strings get a little older). Again, the TecAmp rig I'm using is BRUTALLY transparent and 'accurate' to my ear, so take that into account. It's not sterile by any means, but it lays bare every frequency to my ear. Through many rigs, this bass would sounds a bit darker, 'warmer', and a bit more old school. I guess I could dial in more 'old school' easily with the PUma 'taste' control (which is similar to the TF Timbre control), but thought the more 'pure into the mixing board' sort of tone would be more helpful in hearing what the bass really sounds like. IMO!

Here's the clip (same everything from the previous clips... rig, volume, location, EQ, etc.):

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And, here's the bass again:

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Ken, thanks! That is a GREAT sounding bass!#@!. It rocks my world more than the RA. Just has more attitude a clear character versus the RA (IMO). The LG5 is sounds great on everything. I even loved the slap tone. Ash/Maple can border on 'uber bright' where the LG slap tone has just a bit of warmth. Dunno in a direct A-B if I'd prefer an LM5 over the LG5 or not. I love that color scheme with the Rosewood board. Had an awesome vintage vibe that screams 'Cool!'

Well done. Really nice clip. It would be illuminating to hear that through the Berg AE410. My best guess is that I would like it even better. But even through the TEC Puma rig, it sounds great. Thanks!

Thanks Gary! It's a beautiful sounding bass. Of course, I'm a maple board lover. but it's cool Jimmy makes all these different flavors of J. Even just turning the tweeter down a bit more on the TecAmp rig smooths it out and increases the 'growl to sizzle' ratio more.

I'll tell you what, this bass through the Thunderfunk/DB112 x 2 stack was just old school but articulate beauty. It also sounds GREAT through the rig you have... the LMII/BergAE410.
 
Well done Ken...those nickels while certainly not high beams) are brighter than I would have imagined.
I'll have to give them a try (when the LG arrives) based on your clip.

Thanks
 
Well done Ken...those nickels while certainly not high beams) are brighter than I would have imagined.
I'll have to give them a try based on your clip.

Thanks

+1 They are still roundwounds, and have a touch of zing, but you can really hear the difference when you dig in a bit. Way more grind and growl, less upper treble, and a warmer sort of low end. Not totally my thing, but again on an alder/RW bass that was designed to sound 'old', they are a nice compromise between the aggressive zing of stainless steel, and the really old school flatwound type tone. They will soften a bit in the upper end in a while also, of course.

They feel 'made for this bass' though. The feel and tension are great!
 
+1 They are still roundwounds, and have a touch of zing, but you can really hear the difference when you dig in a bit. Way more grind and growl, less upper treble, and a warmer sort of low end. Not totally my thing, but again on an alder/RW bass that was designed to sound 'old', they are a nice compromise between the aggressive zing of stainless steel, and the really old school flatwound type tone. They will soften a bit in the upper end in a while also, and of course.

They feel 'made for this bass' though. The feel and tension are great!


Tension, for me is key...and is what keeps me from liking the High Beams more than I do (aplication aside)
 
Tension, for me is key...and is what keeps me from liking the High Beams more than I do (aplication aside)

+1 While I find SS strings, in general, to feel a bit stiffer, the Hi Beams feel much more like nickels to me. The Lo Rider nickels are surely not 'high tension', but they are noticeably stiffer than the Hi Beams.
 
Ken,

All 3 sound great, but to my ears the LG5 has significantly more booty and authority, irrespective of strings. I know you go more for the snappier tones, but the LG5 just has a much more commanding tone, IMO.

That's why I'm putting the clips up (through the most neutral rig that I own). These all sound different enough that it would be surprising if almost everyone didn't have a favorite, or hear something that would be more or less appropriate given the 'tone in their head'.:)
 
What the heck, I'm on a roll! Here's a very brief clip of the LG5 with relatively broken in DR Lo Rider Nickels. It's not 'night and day' versus the Hi Beams, but I really do hear and like the softer upper treble, the shift of the treble down a bit in general, and that bit more of a warm growl (which I assume will continue to build as these strings get a little older). Again, the TecAmp rig I'm using is BRUTALLY transparent and 'accurate' to my ear, so take that into account. It's not sterile by any means, but it lays bare every frequency to my ear. Through many rigs, this bass would sounds a bit darker, 'warmer', and a bit more old school. I guess I could dial in more 'old school' easily with the PUma 'taste' control (which is similar to the TF Timbre control), but thought the more 'pure into the mixing board' sort of tone would be more helpful in hearing what the bass really sounds like. IMO!

Here's the clip (same everything from the previous clips... rig, volume, location, EQ, etc.):

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And, here's the bass again:

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Wow! That's all I have to say. That was by-far my favorite soundclip out of all the soundclips you have recorded. Really warm, fat, punchy, and growly with the unmistakable "J bass bite."

The nickel lo-riders are definitely warmer and plumper in the mids than the high beams, which have a really extended high end and growly, deep bottom.

How does the LG5 sound through the UL-410 and and Puma 500? I imagine a little fatter?
 
Ken,

All 3 sound great, but to my ears the LG5 has significantly more booty and authority, irrespective of strings. I know you go more for the snappier tones, but the LG5 just has a much more commanding tone, IMO.

+1. have to say the authority and booty of the LG is most compelling to me also. Though I love and respect the LM5 tone. The LG5 sound is what works best for me. ...and in my opinion, it does it "all." Growl, burp, old school, funky, great usable slap tone and more.
 
Wow! That's all I have to say. That was by-far my favorite soundclip out of all the soundclips you have recorded. Really warm, fat, punchy, and growly with the unmistakable "J bass bite."

The nickel lo-riders are definitely warmer and plumper in the mids than the high beams, which have a really extended high end and growly, deep bottom.

How does the LG5 sound through the UL-410 and and Puma 500? I imagine a little fatter?

Based on our PM's, I would have guessed this would be closer to the vibe you dig.:)
 
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