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Club Alleva Coppolo (Part 9)

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God willing in 3 weeks..i will be an official AC owner..

goin to cali to meet up and make the Fodera for Alleva Trade!
wishin the days would just HURRY UP...

i have a gig in San Diego (dec 10th) and we decided to meet..hopin nothing falls through!

i will post pics ONCE i get it..if i dont post..its cuz i didnt get it..HAHAHA!!!
 
No troll intended here... got an idea that it's time for another go at a super jazz

Why Alleva over Sadowsky or the reverse for that matter?

Lots of guys that I respect here at TB play both, although it would seem that there is less frothing at the bit hysteria with Alleva fans.

Someone fill a brother in

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving,

They are both great basses. I have never played a Sadowsky. I have an LG5. It has a great vintage tone and feel to it. (60s Fender). Through extensive reading of these boards, it would appear Sadowsky has a more modern tone. I guess it all depends on what you are looking for in a bass. One isn't better than the other.
 
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No troll intended here... got an idea that it's time for another go at a super jazz

Why Alleva over Sadowsky or the reverse for that matter?

Lots of guys that I respect here at TB play both, although it would seem that there is less frothing at the bit hysteria with Alleva fans.

Someone fill a brother in

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving,

I own an LG5, and I've previously owned a Metro RV5, although I was never able to A/B the two.

IMO, the natural sounds of the Alleva and the Sadowsky are very, very different. Jimmy builds his basses to be essentially vintage-style basses with a few modern appointments (the low B, a very nice, natural preamp, and solid hardware). Sadowskys, on the other hand, seem to go for a very modern J Bass sound; the split-coil pickups that I have experience with seem to scoop out some of the mids, and the preamp boosts the bass and treble dramatically, which would seem to favor the modern, sizzly slapper sound.

I've heard the Sadowsky single-coils have more mids than the splits, which is a tone I may have preferred more. Still, the Alleva is right up my alley as far as inherent tone, whereas the Sadowsky inherent tone is more or less the opposite of what I go for. Construction-wise, the Sadowsky was very nice for an import, and I'm sure the NYC models would rival an Alleva for fit and finish.

This is kind of a poor man's comparison; I'm not nearly as versed in describing tone as guys like Ken and Vic are, but to me, the tones of an Alleva and Sadowsky are different enough that once you know what kind of sound you want, the choice is obvious.
 
...got an idea that it's time for another go at a super jazz

Why Alleva over Sadowsky or the reverse for that matter?
Depends on your goals (as always). To compare apples/apples, I've A/B'd a SC equipped Sadowsky with the AC basses and the main diffs are that the AC really goes hard at being faithful to the original J theme, whereas the Sadowsky does not. The AC has a more traditional body shape and size, a more traditional (smaller) fingerboard radius, and especially, a more traditional sound (as some others have commented.)

So really it just boils down to if you really want something designed specifically, even with the preamp engaged, to sound like the "perfect example" of a Fender J, you should probably get an AC. If you want something that is well "based" on that, but then modified to cut mixes more effectively, you might be happier with a Sadowsky. This isn't to slam the AC's ability to maintain an identity in the mix, not by a damn sight. It's just that Roger's altered his tone to emphasize that beyond what's truly faithful to the original sound.

Lots of guys that I respect here at TB play both, although it would seem that there is less frothing at the bit hysteria with Alleva fans.
I think that's just a matter of time and population (market awareness/presence). I see the AC fanaticism as being just as strong with the AC lovers myself.
 
Why Alleva over Sadowsky or the reverse for that matter?

I would rate both brands VERY high on the look, feel and build criteria and the necks feel quite similar in shape to me.

Where is see the biggest difference is in the tone - the AC that I have (LG-5) is more "vintage sounding" than the Sadowsky's I have played. The Sadowsky's have been more modern sounding - the choice is what tone you want, NOT anything else. I really could be extremely happy with either.

FWIW, the two AC's I own (LG-5 and KPB-5) have displaced my long-term #1 bass - a Ken Lawrence Brase 5 that I had built 8 years ago for most of my playing.

Dan K.
 
Besides the tone discussion which has been expressed very well I absolutely find the feel to be very different when comparing the fairly flat 12 degree sad radius to the rounder more fenderish 10 degree of the AC's.
I totally agree. Not only that, but at least on my LG, the C profile of the neck seems just a tad thinner than a Sadowsky. I didn't mention that earlier because I wasn't sure if that was always the case, but it gives the AC a pretty different overall neck feel. I wouldn't rate it above or below the Sadowsky profile, but I do LOVE it.
 
I made a HUGE mistake! I asked our friend thndrstk6 to mock something up for me and now I've got REALLY BAD GAS for an LM!!!! ARGH!!!!

My next "dream" AC. As shown I think it'd be pretty pricey, as those blocks and binding are expensive options, but man, that is my all time favorite look on a J bass... wow...

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I think a vintage gold anodized guard would look killer on that bass!
Jimmy's gotta be on board to do that being it is a vintage look!


I think Jimmy would have to have that made up one off custom. I only say this because if there is any bass that a Gold guard belongs on its the Ash/Maple trans white P bass...... and it doesn't have one.(see attachment below)



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This is a classic look from the 70's ,Period correct for that combo would be a black guard. The burst would be different to.

BUT WHO CARES CAUSE THAT LOOKS AWESOME!



Aj
 

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