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Club Alleva Coppolo (Part VI)

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emjazz said:
I just ordered a Fat Finger because of you....I've always been curious about them, saw one on your bass in this pic....had a weak moment and ordered one.....I'm just sorry I don't have an AC to place it on.

Has Jimmy made or considered a PJ configuration on a 5 string bass? If I were ever to spend big money on a non 6 string bass then that's definitly what I'd want.
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I don't think so regarding the PJ, since that isn't part of the 'vintage Fender' thing that Jimmy seems to base his basses on.

Interesting on the Fat Finger. Luckily, none of my basses have dead spots noticable enough to have to bother with that. Thank goodness!:bassist:
 
#524
Andrew Jones said:
Notice that Kirks bass has the older smaller headstock.



Aj
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Ah, makes sense. Jimmy's current headstock is like having a built in 'fat finger'. Cool! While all basses have at least one slight deadspot in that classic G string 5th-7th fret area (or close to it), I'm amazed at how even my two Alleva's are. You really have to listen to hear any differential decay of the fundamental in that area. Wonderful execution, considering he uses the classic 34" scale flat sawn maple neck design.
 
#526
KJung said:
Ah, makes sense. Jimmy's current headstock is like having a built in 'fat finger'. Cool! While all basses have at least one slight deadspot in that classic G string 5th-7th fret area (or close to it), I'm amazed at how even my two Alleva's are. You really have to listen to hear any differential decay of the fundamental in that area. Wonderful execution, considering he uses the classic 34" scale flat sawn maple neck design.
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I still think some of his models can have a pretty noticeable one tho... assuming that LM I had was "recent enough" to have the bigger headstock (tho I must admit, I'm not sure). That one didn't have a "bad one", but it was noticeable, and Tony's COJ LG was noticeably better. Not sure if that LM was bad enough for a fatfinger, tho.
 
#527
Vic said:
I still think some of his models can have a pretty noticeable one tho... assuming that LM I had was "recent enough" to have the bigger headstock (tho I must admit, I'm not sure). That one didn't have a "bad one", but it was noticeable, and Tony's COJ LG was noticeably better. Not sure if that LM was bad enough for a fatfinger, tho.
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+1 Any given bass of any design can have a greater or lesser issue with the classic dead spot. I don't think it has anything to do with 'models' versus just the luck of the draw with any individual bass of any brand or design. I'm lucky that neither of my Alleva's have 'meaningful' deadspots. I'm pretty sensitive to them.

It does seem like more mass at the headstock will lower the probability of having an issue.
 
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Yes the fat finger is cool.. this bass really doesnt need it.. but i had no place no place to put it.. and it resides on the P bass now.. it changes the feel depending where to place it on the headstock... at least i think so.. plus i get the extra Chrome bling on my bass:).

This bass doesnt have any noticeable dead spots but the fat finger seems to make it even punchier than it already is.. if that makes sense.




emjazz said:
I just ordered a Fat Finger because of you....I've always been curious about them, saw one on your bass in this pic....had a weak moment and ordered one.....I'm just sorry I don't have an AC to place it on.

Has Jimmy made or considered a PJ configuration on a 5 string bass? If I were ever to spend big money on a non 6 string bass then that's definitly what I'd want.
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KJung said:
Ah, makes sense. Jimmy's current headstock is like having a built in 'fat finger'. Cool! While all basses have at least one slight deadspot in that classic G string 5th-7th fret area (or close to it), I'm amazed at how even my two Alleva's are. You really have to listen to hear any differential decay of the fundamental in that area. Wonderful execution, considering he uses the classic 34" scale flat sawn maple neck design.
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svtb15 said:
...it changes the feel depending where to place it on the headstock... at least i think so...
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Wow, admittedly, I have limited experience with these (used one on an older Fender I had), but I never noticed this, tho it does make sense. Makes me wanna' check'em out again just outa' curiosity. :)
 
#532
KJung said:
+1 Any given bass of any design can have a greater or lesser issue with the classic dead spot. I don't think it has anything to do with 'models' versus just the luck of the draw with any individual bass of any brand or design. I'm lucky that neither of my Alleva's have 'meaningful' deadspots. I'm pretty sensitive to them.

It does seem like more mass at the headstock will lower the probability of having an issue.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to make it sound like an LM vs LG thing... I wasn't real clear about that. It was more about the fact that the LM was older than the LG, so I didn't know if it was the newer bigger headstock or not. Sorry about that.
 
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svtb15 said:
Yes the fat finger is cool.. this bass really doesnt need it.. but i had no place no place to put it.. and it resides on the P bass now.. it changes the feel depending where to place it on the headstock... at least i think so.. plus i get the extra Chrome bling on my bass:).

This bass doesnt have any noticeable dead spots but the fat finger seems to make it even punchier than it already is.. if that makes sense.
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Makes sense. That's always been my theory on Fodera's 'extended B' headstock. The perceived 'fattening' of the tone of the B string has less to do with the couple inches of extra wire behind the nut, and more to do with the big honkin' headstock with significantly more mass than the 'standard' headstock... again, a sort of 'built in fat finger' sort of thing.

Interesting about moving the fat finger around to result in a little different feel. I never thought about that before.
 
#535
KJung said:
Makes sense. That's always been my theory on Fodera's 'extended B' headstock. The perceived 'fattening' of the tone of the B string has less to do with the couple inches of extra wire behind the nut, and more to do with the big honkin' headstock with significantly more mass than the 'standard' headstock... again, a sort of 'built in fat finger' sort of thing.

Interesting about moving the fat finger around to result in a little different feel. I never thought about that before.
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Yeah that makes sense to me as well regarding the Fodera ext B headstock....I dont think id want to use one of those fatfingers live..but in the studio it might be cool to mess with.
 
#539
frandiaz said:
Has Jimmy ever built a natural finish ash or alder bass? I have never seen any photos of natural Allevas.
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Yeah man ... there are a few natural ash basses floating around.
The last one that I remember was on display in the Dunlop booth at Bass Player Live '08.

Check out the picture on Jimmy's website of the Modern 4.
It's natural ash.
It is the only one that Jimmy has made, so far ... and, sadly it was stolen from it's owner, Walter Cosby, a few months ago in the DC area.
 
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