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Club Bordwell Part 3

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Not bad!!!

Not complaining about the weight of mine, just observations. Super low weight wasn't a concern of mine with the 6 and 7 strings. My lumber choice on the 4 just happened to be extremely light. Still not bad weights for the 6 and 7 given that I've played the occasional guitar, or 4-5 string that weigh as much or more.

I'm thinking about somehow chambering the next two, but more for tonal purposes. Certainly doesn't hurt to make things lighter simply because you can.
 
Not bad, I'd say awesome. Especially since it gives up NO tone whatsoever for its feather weight, and it also has a fully featured preamp and of course battery. :)

Not bad at all! I can imagine I'd save significant weight if I could go passive, but not sure if I can do that.

Cliff reminded me that I need to be a little careful with weight on the fanned 7. The top horn on my 7 goes near the 10th position, which is probably exactly where it needed to be given that the neck woods were a little heavier than the body woods from a balance perspective.
 
Not bad at all! I can imagine I'd save significant weight if I could go passive, but not sure if I can do that.

Cliff reminded me that I need to be a little careful with weight on the fanned 7. The top horn on my 7 goes near the 10th position, which is probably exactly where it needed to be given that the neck woods were a little heavier than the body woods from a balance perspective.
Very true. Price you pay for playing that weird stuff. ;) :D
 
What would prevent you from going passive?

I really end up liking a boosted signal and (ab)using the pre-amps to get my basses to be able to sound like something they're not.

I more or less like to set my amp EQ and pre-amps to allow my Rob Allens to sound like an upright, my Stambaugh to kinda sound like Wooten's Fodera (only not as talented), and my CB 4 and 7 to have that Jaco sound simply by switching basses.
 
Does anyone have experience with modern headless systems?

I'm kinda thinking about trying headless out on a CB some day. The goal is to have piezo, which I think Hipshot might be able to do and some sort of half headstock for string clams that allow me to use standard strings.

Does anyone know of companies that make a nice clamp? I realize that one can use the headstock and string through that, but I figure I'm better off with Hipshot. Not that I'd expect it to ever fail, but it's good to have parts you can easily replace. That being said, part of me realizes that standard bridges and tunners don't really have that sort of risk.
 
hello my favorite bass club!

since I'm getting financially back on track I'm pondering of getting another beauty.

I'm curently on a jazz bass sound trip.
yeah I know it's so generic but I've never owned a jazz bass.

I recently tried out a 5-string sandberg jazz bass but the ergonomics were killing me.

basically I want a jazz bass sound like what I can hear from a sadowsky but in a very playable package.

can the more educated people give me their opinions on how to configure my CB in order to get the sadowsky jazz bass tone.

maybe it's not really possible due to construction differences but how close can you get with your bass?

thanks for your help.

cheers.

by the way, spade2you, how's your 32" scale bass. any pro's and con's in playability and sound ?
 
hello my favorite bass club!

since I'm getting financially back on track I'm pondering of getting another beauty.

I'm curently on a jazz bass sound trip.
yeah I know it's so generic but I've never owned a jazz bass.

I recently tried out a 5-string sandberg jazz bass but the ergonomics were killing me.

basically I want a jazz bass sound like what I can hear from a sadowsky but in a very playable package.

can the more educated people give me their opinions on how to configure my CB in order to get the sadowsky jazz bass tone.

maybe it's not really possible due to construction differences but how close can you get with your bass?

thanks for your help.

cheers.

by the way, spade2you, how's your 32" scale bass. any pro's and con's in playability and sound ?

If you were really interested, Cliff has offered bolt-on necks in the past or perhaps you could go for some sort of wood combo that has a little more snap.

No real cons to the playability/sound. Playability isn't much different on my 32" scale or 34" scale bass. Being that the 7 is 32" scale, that aspect helps a little. I don't really think the scale length helps or hurts the tone much, other than my upper register having a little less tension.

The only real con of the 32" scale is that you might need custom strings, depending on how many strings you have on the bass. If it's a 4, I think several companies make stock medium scale strings. If you want a low B, then options start to get limited since it's good for the string to start tapering before it gets to the tuner, as thick as the strings are.
 
Does anyone have experience with modern headless systems?

I'm kinda thinking about trying headless out on a CB some day. The goal is to have piezo, which I think Hipshot might be able to do and some sort of half headstock for string clams that allow me to use standard strings.

Does anyone know of companies that make a nice clamp? I realize that one can use the headstock and string through that, but I figure I'm better off with Hipshot. Not that I'd expect it to ever fail, but it's good to have parts you can easily replace. That being said, part of me realizes that standard bridges and tunners don't really have that sort of risk.

Check out this JP Bass >>
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f126/fs-ft-jp-basses-zia-7-strings-headless-420311/
Similar idea to what you're thinking about, I think.

Also, Alan (Skelf on here) of AC Guitars has made a fair few headless basses, and he uses very low profile clamp that allows the use of double ball end strings if you're going for a 34" scale length or regular strings can be clamped in place if you want to use regular strings.
He's got his own custom designed solution for this now, but in the past he's used ABM, I think.
Might be worth giving him a shout on the subject...

Cheers,
Eude
 
First I have to apologize to everyone if this argument has already been covered among the vaste Bordwell community, simply I did not found a satisfying clip (or, better, many clips). In fact I'm an european based musician. For the last 4 years I have been intrigued with Cliff's woodwork, but, I confess, I took time to find more reliable info about the tone of these awesome pieces of art. My finances do not allow me to pull the trigger on a totally blind purchase. I know that tone is in the hands and can vary pretty drastically depending upon amp, strings and so on, but my request remains the only possibility I have to "experience" the tone of these basses. In one occasion I found a youtube clip, decently recorded, but I wanted a wider perspective. Hope you all do not feel hurted by my sudden chiming...I thank everyone who takes the time and effort to suggest me something useful. Ciao from the ancient continent. :help:
 
Check out this JP Bass >>
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f126/fs-ft-jp-basses-zia-7-strings-headless-420311/
Similar idea to what you're thinking about, I think.

Also, Alan (Skelf on here) of AC Guitars has made a fair few headless basses, and he uses very low profile clamp that allows the use of double ball end strings if you're going for a 34" scale length or regular strings can be clamped in place if you want to use regular strings.
He's got his own custom designed solution for this now, but in the past he's used ABM, I think.
Might be worth giving him a shout on the subject...

Cheers,
Eude

Thanks. I'll look some at clamps. I'm hoping to have a small headstock, so that makes things a slight challenge. There was a LeCompte that had something that might work. The Zia's config might work, too. Any idea how durable the clamps are? I generally buy basses for life, so I'm always looking a the long haul.
 
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