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Club Clement (Part 3: Post your basses here)

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#821
palmbay said:
I am a complete novice to Bass guitar,( 4 string ) and at this time my main goal is to have fun :bassist: and to become competent and learn all that I can, to have a rewarding hobby that I can persue from home ( I do not get out a lot for family reasons )
Roy
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I had played (practiced) solely on 4 strings off and on for 30 odd years before trying out a 6. Surprisingly it wasn't much of a difference and found that it opened up a much wider understanding of music.
I understand your statement as far as the bass being a rewarding hobby. At this point I don't see myself joining any type of group, at least until I retire and can devote more time to that situation. For now, it's just practice, learn, record ideas and expand on where the instrument can take me musically.
Congrats on the commitment... can't wait to see the end result.
 
#823
palmbay said:
Thanks for your further imput MrWalker and I am taking it all onboard :)

In my younger days ( I am now the wrong side of 50 ) I used to do a lot of clay target shooting, and I had 4 shotguns in total

2 trap guns for down the line and double rise, a skeet gun, and one for sporting, because each competition would require different barrel lengths, choking and even different cartridges.

I think that might also apply to the Bass Guitar and what it was you were looking to achive as you have eluded too.

I am a complete novice to Bass guitar,( 4 string ) and at this time my main goal is to have fun :bassist: and to become competent and learn all that I can, to have a rewarding hobby that I can persue from home ( I do not get out a lot for family reasons )

I have today made a firm commitment to Tom to place an order, and between us both, we need decide what it will be.

Can't wait

Roy
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Hey Man! Welcome aboard! Always good to have some newbies around here.
For any areas of the construction that you dont already have firm ideas about, Tom has some wonderful ideas, but he's also willing to listen to your own suggestions too.

Also, dont be shy about asking us Clement Club members too- we're only too willing to make suggestions!!
 
#826
#209 will be a

A 4 string wide body Joan

Swamp ash body with veneer accent line under a spalted maple top

1 piece 1/4 sawn Maple neck with fretted bloodwood board

For a variety of tone it will be passive with 2 Bart picks 2 volumes and a master tone control.

:)
 
#827
Welcome on board, palmbay! :)

You are #070! :-)

Nah, a confirmed order is more than enough to become a member :-) Good luck and enjoy your process! I'm sure it will be very enjoyable, as it has been for the rest of us!

Clement Club Members
#000 tjclem (Tom Clement) (#1,3,40 and 150)
#001 MrWalker (#069, #076(now sold), #089, #110, #114, #135 & #169)
#002 richnota (No. 082, 101, 166)
#003 pinobass (No. 065, 79)
#004 JNowiski
#005 HenfieldJ
#006 Anthbass (#078)
#007 Stewmc5222 (#112)
#008 erezbass (#086)
#009 Professor X (#062)
#010 steelrose (#081)
#011 bigbassman (#017)
#012 scranton531 (#34 & #46)
#013 johnmesoloras (#087)
#014 drbabu2607 (#090 & #133)
#015 kjpollo (#094)
#016 Azoore (#096)
#017 jasesng (#097)
#018 beethumpin4 (044 & 058)
#019 kbreez (#048)
#020 JOEP054 (#095 & #100)
#021 fretlessB (#103)
#022 NateMan (#077)
#023 GODBASSMAN (#122 & #196)
#024 Hyper-Flexion
#025 fish_slapper
#026 wkohler
#027 NWB
#028 kmoraine
#029 aproud1
#030 igorsgroove
#031 carlitosway
#032 BigOldHarry
#033 SwampBass
#034 Snaxster
#035 pmd
#036 Renegade Bison
#037 jcbofa
#038 0volts
#039 LightGroove
#040 rythman6969
#041 N.F.A.
#042 Redraven
#043 Lincoln (#63 and #167)
#044 rnlytton
#045 john nam
#046 Rawkabilly
#047 WarThumb
#048 NoFretz6 (#174, #184 & #195)
#049 wavey davey (#164 & #177)
#050 BassParrot
#051 neobassman (#181)
#052 H2ODog (#182)
#053 tombowlus (#171 and #186)
#054 morguedoc71 (#153 and #156)
#055 arcangel6 (#183)
#056 jonmusician (#180)
#057 kepabass (#73)
#058 manjushri (#190)
#059 Moe Monsarrat (#4)
#060 retardedpossum (#188)
#061 Natthan (#130)
#062 edfriedland (#189)
#063 bfawlty (#72 and #191)
#064 billbern
#065 PUCKBOY99
#066 shrigg
#067 pn_day
#068 3NotesABar
#069 Antares
#070 palmbay
#071 M2roger
 
#831
OK, so... what have I been up to during the weekend. Well, I pulled out one of my favourite basses, the Dean Jeff Berlin Standard. It's a fabolous little bass, fast and an awesome player. Great sounding, too. So I had a little jam session with myself and my tiny lil Roland Micro Cube drummer.

Then I was thinking... ok, how does this little bass compare to my Clements? Well, I picked up my fretted 4-string Lise and compared the action on them. Hmmmmm The Lise is FASTER and allows lower action!!! ***! The Dean Jeff Berlin is supposed to be one of the fastest players out there, and the Lise feels so much more sophisticated and smooth, I never really thought of her as a fast one, but heck... she has the Dean Jeff Berlin, too! Her two Nordstrand Dual Coils and the piezo bridge makes it a completely different bass, and with the shedua neck and mahogany/limba/koa body she's got a totally different tonality than the Dean Jeff Berlin (alder body, maple neck with ebony fretboard), but still!!! I was amazed and surprised to find that the Clement is faster and just as accurate as the Dean. :) I love my Lise, but I always thought she was more of an "old-style" jazz walker. :) The sound of the Dean is totally different, but still... it came as a surprise to me that the Lise could match it or even surpass it for playability and action!

So, I picked up my 6-string Anne. she's heavily chambered, a very responsive nature, she's such a totally different approach to bass than the Dean. mahogany/bubinga neck, heavily chambered swamp ash body with a cedar top, those two cannot really compare at all! Still, the action is on par with the Dean if not better, and it's just as fast, even given her acoustic chambered character. Again, they sound totally different, of course, but it's just a confirmation of what we already knew... that Mr. Tom Clement builds an awesome bass that holds it own against a lot of the very excellent competition out there.

I think comparing the Clements to the Dean Jeff Berlin is a somewhat good comparison. The Dean Jeff Berlin I'm talking about was built in the Czech Republic (not Korea, like the later ones), it sports good workmanship and very high quailty parts (US Barts, Badass bridge, Schaller tuners, etc). It's a factory instrument, and retailed at a somewhat lower price than a custom Clement will go for. However, it's the same as Jeff Berlin is using himself, actually, so it's not a bad factory built bass. :)

Just wanted to share my weekend experience. :)
 
#832
palmbay said:
Hi Guys

I have noticed in the gallery, a number of fret boards have an extra fret up near the nut ( a zero fret ? )

Could anybody please tell me the benefit of this :hiding:

Thank you in advance
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The theory is that when you play an open string, it should also vibrate off of a fret, as it would when you are fretting a note further up on the neck. It makes sense, and it works, but there is still a difference in character between an open note and a fretted one. But it closes the gap somewhat. and it makes an open string feel very much like a fretted string. So it's a good treat. :)

I've got a Grendel bass (which was a MTD built in Czech Republic), and it's got a zero fret. It's a great feel, but I wouldn't kill to have that zero fret... I don't really think of it much when playing other instruments. It's a nice feature.... but not a crucial one :)
 
#833
MrWalker said:
OK, so... what have I been up to during the weekend. Well, I pulled out one of my favourite basses, the Dean Jeff Berlin Standard. It's a fabolous little bass, fast and an awesome player. Great sounding, too. So I had a little jam session with myself and my tiny lil Roland Micro Cube drummer.

Then I was thinking... ok, how does this little bass compare to my Clements? Well, I picked up my fretted 4-string Lise and compared the action on them. Hmmmmm The Lise is FASTER and allows lower action!!! ***! The Dean Jeff Berlin is supposed to be one of the fastest players out there, and the Lise feels so much more sophisticated and smooth, I never really thought of her as a fast one, but heck... she has the Dean Jeff Berlin, too! Her two Nordstrand Dual Coils and the piezo bridge makes it a completely different bass, and with the shedua neck and mahogany/limba/koa body she's got a totally different tonality than the Dean Jeff Berlin (alder body, maple neck with ebony fretboard), but still!!! I was amazed and surprised to find that the Clement is faster and just as accurate as the Dean. :) I love my Lise, but I always thought she was more of an "old-style" jazz walker. :) The sound of the Dean is totally different, but still... it came as a surprise to me that the Lise could match it or even surpass it for playability and action!

So, I picked up my 6-string Anne. she's heavily chambered, a very responsive nature, she's such a totally different approach to bass than the Dean. mahogany/bubinga neck, heavily chambered swamp ash body with a cedar top, those two cannot really compare at all! Still, the action is on par with the Dean if not better, and it's just as fast, even given her acoustic chambered character. Again, they sound totally different, of course, but it's just a confirmation of what we already knew... that Mr. Tom Clement builds an awesome bass that holds it own against a lot of the very excellent competition out there.

I think comparing the Clements to the Dean Jeff Berlin is a somewhat good comparison. The Dean Jeff Berlin I'm talking about was built in the Czech Republic (not Korea, like the later ones), it sports good workmanship and very high quailty parts (US Barts, Badass bridge, Schaller tuners, etc). It's a factory instrument, and retailed at a somewhat lower price than a custom Clement will go for. However, it's the same as Jeff Berlin is using himself, actually, so it's not a bad factory built bass. :)

Just wanted to share my weekend experience. :)
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Cool to read that. Those Jeff Berlin Dean's always peaked my interest. The new USA "patchworks" model looks beautiful. Ive always felt like Dean guitars gets a bad rep, they have some great playing stuff. Promising to hear the Clement's play even nicer!
 
#834
@ Palmbay - I guess Antare beat me to the punch on the Zero fret thing! My understanding is that having a zero fret means that an string played open will resonate between the bridge and the zero fret, giving it the same tonal character as playing a fretted note, that would resonate between the bridge and whatever fret you're playing. A standard nut, played open will resonate between the nut and the bridge and the material of the nut and the depth of the nut then comes into play, colouring the tone slightly differently than if you were playing a fretted note.

177 has the zero fret and 166 doesn't - they are both very different beasts tonally - 177 is a Funk Monster and 166 has a more 'traditional' jazz type sound. So its hard to tell the difference when they are plugged in. Unplugged though, playing open strings on 177, they are a bit brighter than 166, and the timbre is the same for fretted and open strings.

Its not a huge difference, but it is there - my next fretted bass will definitely have a zero fret!

@ Mr Walker
Thanks for the insight! I've not played any Deans ever - in fact to see that signature bass was a surprise! I thought Deans were pointy and 'good for metal'

Before stumbling upon the Master of 'C', I was always a Warwick GAS'er. I had the Corvette $$ 4 string with a custom Ovangkol body for extra Grrrrr. They bill the 'vette $$ as the master of all sounds due to the highly versatile pup arrangement. I would disagree! 177 knocks spots off it in every style - and is far more versatile that the bridge loaded pickup would seem. Then steps up 164, which is blisteringly fast and makes the 'wick look like / feel like a plank of 2x4! And THEN add in the VFM factor - I sold the 'Wick 2nd hand for more than what 164 cost me!

I think what I'm trying to say is - no matter what the comparison, there is only one winner in this game - Tom Clement's Basses!
 
#836
Note the disclaimer - next 'fretted' bass!!!

The next 'any' bass - if all goes according to plan - will be a 6 string Fretless. But that still leaves room for a fretted 6 :)

BTW - Any one seen this on [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]?

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Tom's Single Cuts are way sexy!
 
#837
wavey davey said:
Note the disclaimer - next 'fretted' bass!!!

The next 'any' bass - if all goes according to plan - will be a 6 string Fretless. But that still leaves room for a fretted 6 :)

BTW - Any one seen this on Toms Blog?

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Tom's Single Cuts are way sexy!
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That bass is phenomenal. Love the lightcolored ash with the dark hardware and neck.
 
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