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Club Clement (Part 6: Post your basses here)

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Welcome to the club, #122 ahollowhd, #123 aegagropila and #124 Acoustik. :)

Clement Club Members
#000 tjclem (Tom Clement) (#1,3,40 and 150)
#001 MrWalker (#069, #076(now sold), #089, #110, #114, #135, #169, #211 & #250)
#002 richnota (No. 082, 101, 166)
#003 pinobass (No. 065, 79)
#004 JNowiski
#005 HenfieldJ
#006 Anthbass (#078)
#007 Stewmc5222 (#112)
#008 erezbass (#086)
#009 Professor X (#062)
#010 steelrose (#081)
#011 bigbassman (#017)
#012 scranton531 (#34 & #46)
#013 johnmesoloras (#087)
#014 drbabu2607 (#090 & #133)
#015 kjpollo (#094)
#016 Azoore (#096)
#017 jasesng (#097)
#018 beethumpin4 (044 & 058)
#019 kbreez (#048)
#020 JOEP054 (#095 & #100)
#021 fretlessB (#103)
#022 NateMan (#077)
#023 GODBASSMAN (#122 & #256)
#024 Hyper-Flexion
#025 fish_slapper (#126)
#026 wkohler
#027 NWB
#028 kmoraine
#029 aproud1 (#130 & #213)
#030 igorsgroove
#031 carlitosway
#032 BigOldHarry
#033 SwampBass
#034 Snaxster
#035 pmd
#036 Renegade Bison
#037 jcbofa
#038 0volts
#039 LightGroove
#040 rythman6969
#041 N.F.A.
#042 Redraven
#043 Lincoln (#63 and #167)
#044 rnlytton
#045 john nam
#046 Rawkabilly
#047 WarThumb
#048 NoFretz6 (#174, #184 & #195)
#049 wavey davey (#164 & #177)
#050 BassParrot
#051 neobassman (#181)
#052 H2ODog (#182)
#053 tombowlus (#171 and #186)
#054 morguedoc71 (#153 and #156)
#055 arcangel6 (#183)
#056 jonmusician (#180)
#057 kepabass (#73)
#058 manjushri (#190)
#059 Moe Monsarrat (#4)
#060 retardedpossum (#188)
#061 Natthan (#130)
#062 edfriedland (#189)
#063 bfawlty (#72 and #191)
#064 billbern
#065 PUCKBOY99
#066 shrigg
#067 pn_day
#068 3NotesABar
#069 Antares
#070 palmbay (#209)
#071 M2roger (#202 & #215)
#072 Dave Klausner
#073 Kwesi
#074 Subscript
#075 KDA
#076 ratfink03
#077 bompabass
#078 dharmashawn
#079 jsmilez
#080 Hot Sauce
#081 sruby6
#083 Hankenstein
#084 Neonbass
#085 phiphenom
#086 j.kernodle
#087 delucajohn2000
#088 sdlstn
#089 FunkyMcNasty
#090 cbennettjr
#091 The Bartender
#092 kbuschmann
#093 jbybj (#244)
#094 bass5str (#238, #239 & #271)
#095 banditcosmo (#171)
#096 SantiagoGT15 (#246)
#097 MisterWraith (#248)
#098 Jazzchaos (#243)
#099 Ethernal Thorn
#100 tylerwylie
#101 Dodgeviperracer
#102 pitbill
#103 jsumbi
#104 Dreagen
#105 oilfieldtrash
#106 tcydennis
#107 PassivAggressiv
#108 Sparky Mark
#109 JoelFT (#270)
#110 xerogh (#273)
#111 chops000 (#267)
#112 plumcouleeman
#113 AlNino10
#114 icyhell
#115 btbraden
#116 Spencerthegreat
#117 CQBass
#118 Dioscuri
#119 nordicjazz
#120 krustwell
#121 DaveTomasi
#122 ahollowhd
#123 aegagropila
#124 Acoustik
 
First questions toward a new bass order...

#170 is a very comfortable bass to play. Therefore, I will use it as a benchmark for any changes in a new bass.

Scale length - #170 has a 34-inch scale, and I have it strung EADGC. I'm looking to go to either a 6 or 7 string, stacking 4ths on top (not going lower). With the thinner high strings, would a shorter scale length be prudent? Can someone describe the differences they have found (feel, sound, etc.) between a Clement 34 and 32-inch scale?

Neck Radius - Tom advised that he does not have the tools to radius a neck wide than 6 strings. #170 has a 16-inch radius, and as mentioned above, is very comfortable. Does anyone have a non-radiused Clement fretboard that they can describe?

String spacing - #170 has a 19mm space which, again, is pretty comfortable. I understand that many players go to 18mm at 6 or more strings. How much of a discernible difference is there in feel? I play more of a thumb and 4 finger fingerstyle style, but reserve the right to pop when needed.

Thanks, and I am sure more questions will be forthcoming.

Jeff

Hello!
Welcome to the club, you have a membership number now! :) #124, I believe?! :)

The questions you raise are very "personal" in that they are subjective feelings and opinions. Some people love flat fingerboards, some people can't stand them. Personally... I don't need a LOT of curve, but I do need some.

If you have the chance, I would have checked out a Groove Tools bass. The GT7 (not the Bill Dickens model) has an almost flat fingerboard. To me, it seems it's curving the wrong way, cause your strings are getting thinner, so the straight line easily becomes almost an "outwards curve". I believe the GT-7 is also 18 mm string spacing at the bridge. IF you can get to compare it to the Bill Dickens signature, you should know how you feel about it. It has 16.5 mm string spacing, and it has a curved fingerboard. I find it a lot more comfortable than the flat ones. And the narrower string spacing makes the whole thing a little less intimidating to approach.

That said, I still don't use it much :D It is totally parked by my Clement 6-string. To me, there's a "mental" limit at 6 strings. I just can't seem to get accustomed to the extra string. I have my GTBD-7 tuned B-F, for information.

The thinner strings on a 7-string if you go all the way up, will be very thin, and they will be unwound. I have a bass (my Lise 4-string) tuned to piccolo (D-G-C-F for tension issues), and it's got a very clear and crystal-like tone. I like it a lot. The one or two lightest strings are unwound, and if they get too tense, they cut your fingers (or so it feels, anyway). So again, if you could get to check this out on a Dingwall or a Conklin GTBD-7, it would be an advantage, I think.

All in all, what you're asking for is doable... but whether you'll like the end result or not is difficult to answer up front. You are going to have a hard time selling it, though, that's for sure :D but then again, we don't build Clements to sell them, now, do we?! :D

Cheers,
Jon-Inge
 
Yup, right up my alley; right down my boulevard. I have 256 which is fretless 7 string but tuned F# to C, flat finger board and 19 mm string spacing.
The flat board at first feels almost concave because of the gauge of the strings as you go from C to F#. The strings are all as close to the board as the others but not the top where your fingers touch; therefore your fingers are going either uphill or down hill. but I got use to the feel and now it is very natural to my fingers even in swapping off to other basses that do have a radius and mine run 16", 12", 7.5". Finger adjustment only takes a few seconds now.
I get string lost at times on the 7 because of the range. Probable cause I play the 4 strings in the middle and then branch out at times.
I was very use to 19mm as a born to play condition and that has not changed on the 7 string.
my .02 - welcome aboard, y'all.
 
Thanks GODBASSMAN. At the moment, I'm trending toward 6 strings and a radius, altough until an order is placed, changes will happen... I realized that a 6 string E tuning (EADG-CF) is actually about the same as piccolo tuning with 2 additional low strings (FB-EADG). Not sure I would want to go any higher than that.

As a bit of background, my thought process has evolved from taking my 2 main instruments - a 7 string acoustic fingerstyle guitar (BEADGBE, although I never play in standard) and my high-c tuned #170 (EADGC) and trying to conceptualize a hybrid playing style and instrument to fit the style.
 
5ths tuning opens up a whole repertoire of cello music (including my favorite Zoe Keating), and the left side of the Chapman Stick, and extends the range of the instrument without adding strings. Another interesting possibility to ponder...
 
5ths tuning opens up a whole repertoire of cello music (including my favorite Zoe Keating), and the left side of the Chapman Stick, and extends the range of the instrument without adding strings. Another interesting possibility to ponder...

My classical guitar is currently tuned in fifths with strings 6-3 at cello pitch; it's so much fun to play this way. When I get my next bass guitar, it will also be in tuned in fifths...more range with less muting.

I did own a Chapman Stick in the past, an SB8 to be exact, but it was tuned in standard 4ths.

I'll have to check out Zoe Keating.
 
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I received last week #281. :hyper:
The guys of the band and myself were really delighted about her beauty and sound.

Un update of my collection.

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From left to right #217, #233, #266, #281.

You can find the specs on Tom's website in the bass gallery.

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