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I believe there has to be a natural law that says "If you have bought a Clement bass, you have to buy another one!".
So... Clement numero 2 is ordered. A fretless 5, 17/34 with 1 Bart pup and preamp. Pau ferro or rosewood FB with epoxy. One piece ash body with matching ramp. Think that will be good.
So... Clement numero 2 is ordered. A fretless 5, 17/34 with 1 Bart pup and preamp. Pau ferro or rosewood FB with epoxy. One piece ash body with matching ramp. Think that will be good.
Sounds sweet! I think you're right about the rule. 306 will be my fourth Clement. And my first that comes with a case (free too!).
Oh Lord... Does the rule go to four....?
Thanks for the case reminder! Didn´t think about that
Oh Lord... Does the rule go to four....?
Thanks for the case reminder! Didn´t think about that
No problem. Excited the have a giggable case for my clements.
And only time will tell my friend. 306 is not likely to bemylast Clement. Though i nees to takea break and let my finances recover.
Here are my specs for next one, when that might be.
Clement Darlene #2
5 string
Scale 35"
19 mm string spacing at bridge
one Bart XXM55C pick up @ 31" center from nut wired straight to jack
Spanish cedar body
Buckeye top
Black accent between top / body
Port Orford neck
Pao Ferro fret board
20 small frets
Satin Hipshot “A” bridge and ultra light tuners
Dean Markley strings
Top mount jack
Flush mount Dunlop strap locks
Larger belly cut
Diagonal or more rounded back of leg cutout so bass sits back at top or rocks in sitting position.
Clement Darlene #2
5 string
Scale 35"
19 mm string spacing at bridge
one Bart XXM55C pick up @ 31" center from nut wired straight to jack
Spanish cedar body
Buckeye top
Black accent between top / body
Port Orford neck
Pao Ferro fret board
20 small frets
Satin Hipshot “A” bridge and ultra light tuners
Dean Markley strings
Top mount jack
Flush mount Dunlop strap locks
Larger belly cut
Diagonal or more rounded back of leg cutout so bass sits back at top or rocks in sitting position.
Here are my specs for next one, when that might be.
Clement Darlene #2
5 string
Scale 35"
19 mm string spacing at bridge
39.0" from string ball ends at bridge to center of B string post
one Bart XXM55C pick up @ 30" center from nut ( I have)
Spanish cedar body
Buckeye top
Black accent between top / body
Port Orford neck
Pao Ferro fret board
20 small frets
Black Hipshot “A” bridge and ultra light tuners
Dean Markley SR2000 strings (I have)
No electronics
Top mount jack
Flush mount Dunlop strap locks
Larger belly cut
Diagonal or more rounded back of leg cutout so bass sits back at top or rocks in sitting position.
Wow. Sounds like you've been doing some thi king and accumulating some data. That promises to be a beastly b string!
Guys 
I'm still alive, I know some of you might wonder...
I have a "problem" that is halfway Clement Bass related... Point is, I want a setup that allows me to informally pull out a bass and play for and with people. My Clement basses are the core of my sound, however, I feel that bringing a large amp breaks the informal setting somewhat... It turns things into a planned concert... Whereas for example whipping out an acoustic bass would keep the informal situation going. When someone asks you to play something, and you say sure, and run to your car and haul out a chunky amp it doesn't feel like an unplugged cozy sofa session anymore :-D
So how do we approach these settings as bass players? If I was a guitar player I would bring my acoustic guitar... But acoustic basses sound different... Although I've looked at the Warwick Alien and the Boulder Creek... I've never really wanted an acoustic bass guitar... Vox pathfinder?
What would you do?
I'm still alive, I know some of you might wonder...
I have a "problem" that is halfway Clement Bass related... Point is, I want a setup that allows me to informally pull out a bass and play for and with people. My Clement basses are the core of my sound, however, I feel that bringing a large amp breaks the informal setting somewhat... It turns things into a planned concert... Whereas for example whipping out an acoustic bass would keep the informal situation going. When someone asks you to play something, and you say sure, and run to your car and haul out a chunky amp it doesn't feel like an unplugged cozy sofa session anymore :-D
So how do we approach these settings as bass players? If I was a guitar player I would bring my acoustic guitar... But acoustic basses sound different... Although I've looked at the Warwick Alien and the Boulder Creek... I've never really wanted an acoustic bass guitar... Vox pathfinder?
What would you do?
howdy mrwalker. tough question as imho an abg has an uphill battle to hold its own in jam sessions if there are 2 acoustics also playing. the bodies just are not big enough 
while i think it would be stylish and appropriate for the page to toss out the idea of one of tom's big body hollow basses and a small amp, it doesn't sound like that is what you are looking for.
given the choices posted i would try out an alien for sound and consistency. there are different models so you can opt for one with the better bridge perhaps?
to really answer your question it would help to know fretless or fretted, preferred scale, # of strings etc.
when i broke down and went on a hunt for an bag i held out for a wechter and was quite pleased... and lucky.
taylors, thunder chiefs breedlove and of course ribbecke would probably fit what you need. the harder question is finding one that fits what you need and are comfortable enough to take it to random outings/etc. if that is the case i would suggest lower end choices. not trying to be an elitist, just practical
while i think it would be stylish and appropriate for the page to toss out the idea of one of tom's big body hollow basses and a small amp, it doesn't sound like that is what you are looking for.
given the choices posted i would try out an alien for sound and consistency. there are different models so you can opt for one with the better bridge perhaps?
to really answer your question it would help to know fretless or fretted, preferred scale, # of strings etc.
when i broke down and went on a hunt for an bag i held out for a wechter and was quite pleased... and lucky.
taylors, thunder chiefs breedlove and of course ribbecke would probably fit what you need. the harder question is finding one that fits what you need and are comfortable enough to take it to random outings/etc. if that is the case i would suggest lower end choices. not trying to be an elitist, just practical
howdy mrwalker. tough question as imho an abg has an uphill battle to hold its own in jam sessions if there are 2 acoustics also playing. the bodies just are not big enough
while i think it would be stylish and appropriate for the page to toss out the idea of one of tom's big body hollow basses and a small amp, it doesn't sound like that is what you are looking for.
given the choices posted i would try out an alien for sound and consistency. there are different models so you can opt for one with the better bridge perhaps?
to really answer your question it would help to know fretless or fretted, preferred scale, # of strings etc.
when i broke down and went on a hunt for an bag i held out for a wechter and was quite pleased... and lucky.
taylors, thunder chiefs breedlove and of course ribbecke would probably fit what you need. the harder question is finding one that fits what you need and are comfortable enough to take it to random outings/etc. if that is the case i would suggest lower end choices. not trying to be an elitist, just practical
Hi, and thanks for your thoughts, which to a large degree coincide with mine. I do have a large hollow Anne, and I also own a small Ampeg 25W amplifier. As you say, I feel bringing those are definitely an option, but it does lift the "informal" into "not-so-informal" setting :-D maybe I'm just looking for excuses to buy other gear, I don't know...
It's 5 (or 6) strings, fretted and 34" scale length, and I love my Clement solid body sound. I would like something that will sound round and mellow, not totally bright and "stringy". And price is also important. It shouldn't cost a zillion dollars
this is for bringing in the car when you visit family or friends, and want to sit down and play for and with them.So, a decent "lunch box" amp that could fit in the pocket of the gig bag could be a real alternative, honestly.
I would consider a fretless abg for my jazz combo, and work towards an upright sound, like Alain Caron's abg, but for what I have in mind here, fretted is the way to go. I think a 5 or 6 string Alien, preferably the cheaper Rock Bass model, or a boulder creek would be where I would aim price wise. And you're spot on, not elitist at all
I think something like the Vox Pathfinder amp could be an alternative. My last Clement bass is small and headless and takes up less space in the trunk than an alien, and with a cool looking little lunch box amplifier to go along, I somehow feel that it could be close to the functionality og an alien.
Am I thinking along lines that people aren't at all? Lol Is my idea weird to you guys? Sometimes I envy guitar players (not to mention harmonica players) their freedom to bring an instrument wherever they go and create that "campfire" setting around the coffee table Sunday afternoon at Grandma's. Lol that's what I'm looking for.
It's more like having the opposite need of a silent practice setup. Normally we look to finding tiny solutions that enable us to hear ourselves and not bother others. This time I'm looking for a tiny solution that enables me to BE heard
Am I weird? I guess that is the third solution to the problem. Accept your place, bass is bass and not a campfire ingredient ;-)
Thanks for your thoughts, bass5str.
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I have a big bodied acoustic bass and happened to have it with me when we lost power during a storm and in order for it to be heard my guitar player had to play very softly. they just don't have the oomph on their own unfortunately.
I know they are somewhat weak. In this setting it might be ok though. Heard some YouTube clips of the Warwick alien, and it might work.
So, a decent "lunch box" amp that could fit in the pocket of the gig bag could be a real alternative, honestly.
I would consider a fretless abg for my jazz combo, and work towards an upright sound, like Alain Caron's abg, but for what I have in mind here, fretted is the way to go. I think a 5 or 6 string Alien, preferably the cheaper Rock Bass model, or a boulder creek would be where I would aim price wise. And you're spot on, not elitist at all
I think something like the Vox Pathfinder amp could be an alternative. My last Clement bass is small and headless and takes up less space in the trunk than an alien, and with a cool looking little lunch box amplifier to go along, I somehow feel that it could be close to the functionality og an alien.
Am I thinking along lines that people aren't at all? Lol Is my idea weird to you guys? Sometimes I envy guitar players (not to mention harmonica players) their freedom to bring an instrument wherever they go and create that "campfire" setting around the coffee table Sunday afternoon at Grandma's. Lol that's what I'm looking for.
It's more like having the opposite need of a silent practice setup. Normally we look to finding tiny solutions that enable us to hear ourselves and not bother others. This time I'm looking for a tiny solution that enables me to BE heard
Am I weird? I guess that is the third solution to the problem. Accept your place, bass is bass and not a campfire ingredient ;-)
Thanks for your thoughts, bass5str.
I have played maybe 3 acoustic (not upright) basses that were pretty loud. probably loud enough to play with unplugged guitars but not sure. I have looked at many acoustics, bought one and immediately returned it. I like the feel of playing standard bass guitars too much and the needs for acoustic just don't outweigh the benefits of electric for me...
I have played with an acoustic middle eastern group and have a lightweight combo I take with me. Sounds great and works perfectly with the group. Plus I'm confident I will always have the volume level I need.
The sound and feel of my bass is more important to me than having that fireside ability. So I eventually just came to that conclusion and stuck with it.
you could possibly go with a pedal compressor and portable speakers? Just a thought... either way good luck.
Tom made me a 32" scale headless. I've got also an acoustic bass. It's much easier to take the headless with me and a small amp. The headless is smaller and especially less vulnerable. The sound of the acoustic when not plugged in is as we all know but if I read what you want then I shouldn't do it. It's not bright but it sure sounds "stringy", if I understand well what you mean. I use a Roland Cube 30-bass amp when I go on holiday or when I can't take much with me. It sounds not like I want it but it is easy to handle, has got some nice extra's like a rhythm box, tuner, ... and it's cheap. The new small Hevos is really interesting but it costs almost as much as a pro combo.
Thanks guys.
I do agree that the feel of the electric is the one that I'm comfortable with, and would be my reference when getting an abg. So it might be to look for the unlikely. I guess I need to go and see if there are some in town that I can test out.
I do agree about the headless being very portable. It's as much the informal feel that I'm after. I don't know if this makes sense to anyone but me LOL
Thanks for your input, guys. Feel free to keep them coming !
I do agree that the feel of the electric is the one that I'm comfortable with, and would be my reference when getting an abg. So it might be to look for the unlikely. I guess I need to go and see if there are some in town that I can test out.
I do agree about the headless being very portable. It's as much the informal feel that I'm after. I don't know if this makes sense to anyone but me LOL
Thanks for your input, guys. Feel free to keep them coming !
I allways play electric, even on informal sessions. I´m using an old Polytone from the -80´s. Quite portable, and a real plug-and-play amp. Never thought of buyng an acoustic bass. Not enough output on any of these basses to cope with guitars or pianos. The Polytone works very well with fretless basses. Looking forward to test my new fretless Clement soon..!
I remember those
I have an Ampeg Ba10,the small 25w with a 10" speaker and a Yorkville Bloc80B that was, and sort og still is, my main amp to date (cause I sound better on that than on my Genz...). I just saw they had a Warwick Alien 6-string so I jumped overboard and ordered it from Germany. I want to be able to bring it with me for practice purposes and those family gatherings I was talking about. And I always wanted something simple to deal with on the hotel room when on travel. It may not be a wise idea, but I've bought basses on a whim before and have learned a lot in the process... So consider me your crash test dummy :-D It can't be totally bad, it gets nice reviews, and then I can always bring my Ampeg if there are more than one guitar picking a fight.
I'd rather it be a clement... Maybe I could hack the headstock? O
I'd rather it be a clement... Maybe I could hack the headstock? O
Yeah! Give them a better image
Speaking of which, does anyone know if You can get a Hard case that will fit the larger Clement shapes? I'm very much thinking about ordering one when I have the scratch, and I like hard cases because I'm young and spry yet. Is it a hassle to find one that fits? I'm thinking Mike, for reference.
Otherwise, I'm sure that the cases Tom has available will be perfectly suitable. I'd probably get one of those anyway, since It would be nice to have a lighter, yet still protective Gig bag for times where I just don't want to lug the hard case around.
I absolutely cannot wait to start building this bass I have in my head, but it will have to wait.
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