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Club Fbass (Part 10!)

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Good morning Tom

I was wondering if you can tell me what your fingerboard radius is on your Fretted AC? is it stock...was there any other custom changes you made to the bass...can you give specs.

thanks Randyt
 
Good morning Tom

I was wondering if you can tell me what your fingerboard radius is on your Fretted AC? is it stock...was there any other custom changes you made to the bass...can you give specs.

thanks Randyt
The radius is whatever the radius is on an AC6.

At the time the standard body top for an AC6 was spruce, but all 3 of mine are redwood, including my fretted AC6.

The standard for AC6s is one magnetic pickup near the bridge, my fretted AC6 has two.

Standard AC6s are bolt necks, my fretted is neck through.

I think those are the main changes.

BTW, as my only neck through Fbass, I really recommend that. I can get the action on that bass so low that I can barely play a harmonic because that teeny tiny bit of pressure on the string to pull off the harmonic gets the string close enough to the frets to contact them if I pluck the harmonic too hard with my right hand.

Yet even with that extremely low setup, playing fretted notes is no problem at all for the bass anywhere on the neck.
 
Thanks Tom for the reply...at the present I have an extensive list that Im looking at...yet most of it already falls under the AC fretted catergory,....I have dwindled the list down to two builders..Fodera and F Bass...
This is a large investment for me ...i wanna make sure i have everything in order before I pull the trigger.
 
The radius is whatever the radius is on an AC6.

At the time the standard body top for an AC6 was spruce, but all 3 of mine are redwood, including my fretted AC6.

The standard for AC6s is one magnetic pickup near the bridge, my fretted AC6 has two.

Standard AC6s are bolt necks, my fretted is neck through.

I think those are the main changes.

BTW, as my only neck through Fbass, I really recommend that. I can get the action on that bass so low that I can barely play a harmonic because that teeny tiny bit of pressure on the string to pull off the harmonic gets the string close enough to the frets to contact them if I pluck the harmonic too hard with my right hand.

Yet even with that extremely low setup, playing fretted notes is no problem at all for the bass anywhere on the neck.

Hi, Tom.
Are they really different in a sound? I ask, 'cause sometimes I think of buying BN6 instead of my BN5, but still I'm not sure to do that. I love the sound of my BN5 NYC. I haven't got an opportunity to buy BN6, not selling my BN5 now. But if the standard BN's are similar I'd probably sell BN5 for BN6.
 
Hi, Tom.
Are they really different in a sound? I ask, 'cause sometimes I think of buying BN6 instead of my BN5, but still I'm not sure to do that. I love the sound of my BN5 NYC. I haven't got an opportunity to buy BN6, not selling my BN5 now. But if the standard BN's are similar I'd probably sell BN5 for BN6.
This is kind of a hard question to answer.

The tone of BN6s and BN5s are similar, but they are definitely not the same either.

Both have a fantastic Fender-like tone with both pickups full on, but you can hear a difference between the BN5 and the BN6.

When you start to tweak the basses with volume balance, tone and the preamp is when you really hear a difference though.

I've found that my BN5 is more versatile, more agile sonically.

Consequently I kept my BN5 and bought a BN6 with a different finger board wood so that the two basses would definitely sound different.
 
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My F-babies are sleeping after a hard night :)
 
This is kind of a hard question to answer.

The tone of BN6s and BN5s are similar, but they are definitely not the same either.

Both have a fantastic Fender-like tone with both pickups full on, but you can hear a difference between the BN5 and the BN6.

When you start to tweak the basses with volume balance, tone and the preamp is when you really hear a difference though.

I've found that my BN5 is more versatile, more agile sonically.

Consequently I kept my BN5 and bought a BN6 with a different finger board wood so that the two basses would definitely sound different.

Oh, I see. Thanks a lot, Tom. I think I'll save some money to buy BN6 and compare if a good buyer doesn't suddenly appear. :)
 
Hi Guys...

I got my BN6 today! First impressions are through the roof, probably the finest instrument I have ever owned. I dreamed up something a little outside of George's standard build and he and his team delivered. I am blown away by the result! Right out of the box I was able to play anything I normally play on my Alleva-Coppolo 5 string, this thing doesn't even feel like it has 6 strings. I'm really starting to be convinced that all things considered F basses are the best bang for your buck.

Here are the specs again for those who may not have caught my initial post upon ordering...

Natural Ash w/ Black Grain in Satin finish
Big body - about 1/4" wider all around and a reshaped upper horn
Maple fingerboard
60's/BN5 pickup placement (which is now back as the new standard after this and a couple other successful tests!)
Drop-tuner on the B string (to A)

And now for some eye candy... Courtesy of Marcel Furlanetto.
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Thank you George and crew! Cheers!
 
NICE!!!! Congratz pare! Heard UPS was giving you and Miko some trouble? Didn't that make the anticipation hell? Hehehe... I'm
Seriously loving the new body shape and added wood mass...hmmm does this come in a 4 string :P
 
NICE!!!! Congratz pare! Heard UPS was giving you and Miko some trouble? Didn't that make the anticipation hell? Hehehe... I'm
Seriously loving the new body shape and added wood mass...hmmm does this come in a 4 string :P

Yes Pare the UPS people were not very helpful... Anticipation? How's this for anticipation... On Wednesday night we were at the UPS station and the box was sitting right in front of us then to have to leave it there til it all got sorted out.

I'm sure you can request for George to do the same with a 4 string... The bass sounds HUGE! I love the fact that at least for now it is my very own unique F bass!
 
Yes Pare the UPS people were not very helpful... Anticipation? How's this for anticipation... On Wednesday night we were at the UPS station and the box was sitting right in front of us then to have to leave it there til it all got sorted out.

I'm sure you can request for George to do the same with a 4 string... The bass sounds HUGE! I love the fact that at least for now it is my very own unique F bass!
Not to discourage you, but I had a hassle with UPS that literally lasted over a year.

It involved me being forced to pay something around $200 to get my bass from them over and above the shipping, then getting another branch of UPS to acknowledge they should not have charged me that, and sending me a refund... only to have them insist I owe them the money they just refunded me and threaten to turn me over to collections for not paying it back to them.

Most infuriating was I never talked to one UPS employee who could listen. It was just beyond every person's capacity.

Without exception, EVERY employee was convinced the lie in their computer was the gospel, and they flat would not even listen to me. They either stayed quiet for 3 seconds then start talking over the top of me, or they'd stay quiet in feigned interest, then say what they'd always planned to say, oblivious to every word I'd just told them.

My wife is still furious with them. Furious to the point that she would not have okayed the purchase of my BN6 LE Replica if it meant that George had to send it to us via UPS. Instead George brought it with him to NAMM in California, then used a friend driving near to where I was to deliver it to me.

UPS seriously has to get its act together -- particularly when dealing with customer disputes.
 
I'm with you Tom, the attitude of the employee on Wednesday night was probably the worst part of the situation... I can understand that someone mistagged our box which cause the confusion for the fee but this guy was a straight smart***... The conversation went kind of like this (I'm paraphrasing of course):

UPS Guy: Oh, it looks like you owe quite a bit in broker fees.

Me: That's can't be right, I called on the phone and spoke to 2 different people at the 2 different times and both confirmed there was no fee. C'mon man I've been waiting for this all day.

UPS: Well, they must be dumb cause it's clear as day on my screen... $284.65. And how did you miss it if you've waited all day?

Me: My neighbor was going to sign for me and got the door tag. How could that be, aren't you looking at the same system?

UPS: It's either they're lying or I'm lying and I'm not lying. How can you think there would be no fee?

Me: Because we have NAFTA and I was told by the sender there wouldn't be fees... He's been doing that for 30+ years.

UPS: Well, I don't know much about NAFTA but if you reverse the situation and sent something to Canada don't you think they would charge them?

Me: I don't know... I'm going off what I'm told.

UPS: But how can your guy know what will happen on the other side of the border?

Me: Cause he's been in business 30 years.

UPS: Just because he's been flying under the radar for 30 years doesn't mean they won't catch on... And they caught on to this one.

Me: What?!!! He is a legitimate business who does their homework.

UPS: Have you received anything from him before?

Me: My friend [Interrupted]

UPS: No, have YOU received anything from them?

Me: No, but my friend did a month ago and he has (referring to Miko Espanol)...

Miko jumped in and tried to explain what he knows from experience....

The conversation goes further than this for a total of 1 hour... Then he tries to be "nice" and said, tell you what, "I'll lock it up for you." And here's the number to UPS Brokerage and UPS International... Call them tomorrow.

A-HOLES... UPS sucks... That is all.

I will write them a letter if I can get a hold of an email address and not held to a 500 character limit on their site.
 
That conversation sounds all too familiar.

I probably shouldn't write this, but I started making audio recordings of my conversations with UPS "for quality control purposes." I figure if they can make them, I can too.

I planned to play them to their own supervisors, and if that didn't get results, I was going to make a YouTube video documenting the entire runaround UPS was giving me, and sends its URL to some news agencies to see if anyone thought this would make a good story.

Fortunately, with George's direct involvement, it did not come to that and after more than a year, some UPS employee said she'd take the charge off, but even then she was acting like she was doing me some big favor.

What exactly is the big favor again? Undoing the charges they never should have charged me.

What's amazing is UPS sent me a letter -- an old fashioned, typed letter with a hand signature on it -- acknowledging they made a mistake, and enclosed a refund check.

Then they tried to collect the money back and treated me like a liar for saying I have a letter from them and a refund. The guy said they have no record of that, like I fraudulently invented the letter on their letterhead.

Oh, I almost forgot, after she said she'd take the charges off, I continued to get harassing calls threatening to send me to collections, so I emailed that lady who said she'd take the charges off again. THEN she did it.

UPS was 100% in the wrong every step of the way, and would not listen long enough or well enough to remedy the problem. Like your experience, they were smug, and would not even entertain the notion that they could be wrong. They had no idea how their unjustified sense of rightness was embarrassing themselves, hence my idea to use their own audio in a youtube video, along with the image of the letter they sent me. I hoped that would help them finally see themselves through their customers' eyes and make them rethink their so called customer service.

It's a shame because their drivers are usually very cool guys and often go a bit out of their way to help make sure our deliveries are safely delivered. The problem is management and how their phone support people act.

If you need to get something from A to Z, then UPS in my experience is as reliable as FedEx. If, however, something goes wrong, then UPS becomes a living nightmare.

Anyway, please let us know when you get your bass.
 
I'm glad I'm not crazy for feeling that way...

On the bright side, I have my bass!!! This all happened Wednesday evening after the failed delivery attempt as they tried to collect the check from my poor neighbor who thought he was simply signing for the package since I was at work.

I got on the phone with George early Thursday morning and by lunch time it was all sorted out and I ran straight to the UPS station.

The bass is everything I thought it could be... It's only been a couple days but I've played probably a total of 12 hours... I just can't put it down! I have some gigs coming up so I'm trying to get used to it - which is almost no adjustment from my Alleva-Coppolo 5 - but I just want to make sure I don't fumble playing the usual tunes with my groups.

The sound, feel, playability, quality and craftsmanship of this bass is beyond belief... I'm seriously considering going all F bass.
 
Hi Guys...

I got my BN6 today! First impressions are through the roof, probably the finest instrument I have ever owned. I dreamed up something a little outside of George's standard build and he and his team delivered. I am blown away by the result! Right out of the box I was able to play anything I normally play on my Alleva-Coppolo 5 string, this thing doesn't even feel like it has 6 strings. I'm really starting to be convinced that all things considered F basses are the best bang for your buck.

Here are the specs again for those who may not have caught my initial post upon ordering...

Natural Ash w/ Black Grain in Satin finish
Big body - about 1/4" wider all around and a reshaped upper horn
Maple fingerboard
60's/BN5 pickup placement (which is now back as the new standard after this and a couple other successful tests!)
Drop-tuner on the B string (to A)

Thank you George and crew! Cheers!

So happy to hear you love your new BN6 Yohann and thank you for putting your spin on it...the richness/fullness in tone on this beast was unreal. The added wood mass really beefed up the higher strings too.

Wish we had more control over UPS but I apologize for the heartache they put you through.
 
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