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Club Sadowsky!!!

Yes, I had the same identical issue w/ a new P/J 5. It was only on my A string. I thought maybe the nut was cut too low so I wrote to Lisa H. and she had me adjust the string retainer(?) on the headstock and put a little relief in the neck. (It was almost flat) I also had the action set very low so I raised it a small amount. This took care of my "knock" and the "feel" didn't change. Call or email the shop, someone will help you.

Same here with my PJ4 - mostly the A string around the 5th-7th frets and only when I play more "lively" numbers.

The strings are TI flats so a bit "flexible" and the strings were smacking against the board.

I adjusted the truss rod to give more relief but the strings buzzed past the 12th fret. So the rod went back to pretty much how it was, with just a tiny bit of relief. That stopped the buzzing and gave me a tiny bit more relief (there was next to none before).

I just raised the strings a bit more and it's ok now. If I used other strings or used a pick I doubt I'd have the problem, as some call these strings "noodle-like" but I love 'em. It'll teach me to play more gently too.

Funny how the A gets it first . . .
 
Played 4098 at another gig last night. Man. I'm never ever ever ever ever ever ever selling that bass... ever. Did I say ever? Yeah, never ever. Wow.

You talk about one angry pissed off growling thunderous J bass with a B string that is a force to be reckoned with... THEN you talk about 4098. Everything I did, it was like, gimme more biotch, is that all you got? Hit me harder, see what happens... yeah uh huh, deal widditt. :)

LOL
 
Cool! more stuff to try. Thank you for the help.

I was going to change the strings and see if another brand might help. But before I do that I'll take your suggestions. I did raise the action on the E and the A to where it is significantly higher than the other strings but no joy there.

One question, on the string retainer did you raise it or lower it?

I think it ended up being about 1/2 turn CW (tightening?) on the B string side & 1/4 turn on the G string side. It wasn't much. On this particular bass I didn't need to significantly raise the action. Adding relief helped. Were you able to get a hold of the folks @ Sadowsky? Lisa walked me through the process on the phone so I just followed directions and didn't keep notes.

Hope this helps.
tom r
 
I think it ended up being about 1/2 turn CW (tightening?) on the B string side & 1/4 turn on the G string side. It wasn't much. On this particular bass I didn't need to significantly raise the action. Adding relief helped. Were you able to get a hold of the folks @ Sadowsky? Lisa walked me through the process on the phone so I just followed directions and didn't keep notes.

Hope this helps.
tom r

Hi Tom, thank you for the info. I'll give that a try. I also think that I am going to go back and set it up where I started and go from there.

I'm not able to call the shop since I am on the road to work before the shop opens and don't get off until they are closed.:hmm:
 
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nice.
Yeah, it's not really much to look at, pretty much as generic looking as you can get, but that's also kinda' part of what I like about it. It's ALL about function. Plus, I bought it used with a few tiny little dings already on it, and I just feel like I can take it anywhere and not worry about it. It doesn't draw attention, and while I do take care, if I do accidentally bump it on something, it won't totally break my heart. :)
 
My MV5JJ is really similar. As I came up playing several Fenders of that exact color scheme, it doesn't seem plain or pedestrian at all to me.

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My MV5PJ, "due in soon!!," is the same color scheme.
 
My MV5JJ is really similar. As I came up playing several Fenders of that exact color scheme, it doesn't seem plain or pedestrian at all to me.
Well, I wouldn't use "pedestrian", as I think that sounds too negative... because I really do like the looks. It's very classy. But when you compare it to basses with exotic woods and/or designs, it doesn't get first looks... especially by people who aren't "in the know" about Sadowsky basses. I kinda' like that. :)

My MV5PJ, "due in soon!!," is the same color scheme.
YAY!!! :hyper:
 
Ok... so I did the most foolish thing ever in my 25+ years of playing bass... and it was to my beloved Sadowsky #233. I broke my cardinal rule: When leaving a gig, always put your gear into your vehicle BEFORE you chat with friends, answer your cell phone, or in other ways, get distracted. I failed to do so, and without going into greater detail, I rolled my 2+ ton pickup over my Sadowsky after last night's worship gig at my church. Talk about "that sunken feeling" in my gut. Yikes!! Needless to say, I quickly jumped out of my truck, pulled my bass out of a visibly damaged gig bag, an instantly looked at the neck, fully expecting it to be snapped or crushed. Now here is where the Grace comes in: The neck was untouched. Sighting down the neck, it was clearly over-bowed. I now became distraught that the truss-rod had been damaged, so I quickly adjusted the truss wheel to provide relief to the neck. Happily, the over-bow was replaced with a nearly flat neck profile. It was then that I saw the visible damage.

My Aquilar TLC pedal was in the gig bag gear pocket sitting above the neck/body junction of my bass and it was what thankfully took the brunt of the damage. Unfortunately, the steel wings of the pedal body were pressed down through the gig bag into the lower horn of my bass by the weight of my truck (see pix) and did some real damage to the body. I am hopeful that Roger and his team might be able to repair this, but in all honestly, I was and am ultimately more concerned with the condition and stability of the neck (and any other potential damage that I can't see), especially since the truss-rod had to be put into a significantly different position for a decent relief that it had been before rolling over it.

After assessing the damage in those first few minutes after the mishap, I quickly checked to see if my #233 could tune up (it did) and also checked the intonation - it was almost spot on! Playing felt a bit different than normal (not surprisingly), but I gained more hope that my bass might have been spared.

I let it sit for the night and then spent a good deal of time this morning assessing things. Other than the obvious damage to the lower horn of the body, there were two additional visible cracks on the inside of the upper and lower horns, one on each side of the neck pocket. Hopefully they are only cosmetic. Additionally, the E string was damaged pretty good, so I decided to change all the strings out. Once that was done, re-checked and adjusted the intonation and again looked the neck over very carefully and made sure the relief was set correctly. Thankfully, the truss rod continues to be functioning normally, and in every way I could see, the neck has suffered no visible damage. Playing still felt a bit different than normal, however, and then it dawned on me to check the neck attachment bolts. The front two were nice and tight, but the back two needed a slight re-tightening. Once that was done - BAM - there is my old friend! WOW! I am going to take it to my gig tonight, and am going to keep a very careful eye on how stable the neck remains over the next few weeks, but I believe I was given a serous dose of grace on this one guys!

Roger - you make one seriously tough instrument! Thank you sir!!!! I hope to get my bass back to you for evaluation and any possible and/or needful repairs in the next few weeks.

I will also check my Aguilar pedal this evening. If it still functions, I will be pleasantly surprised well.

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Grooves left in the lower horn and pickguard by my TLC pedal being crushed into my Sadowsky by my 4400 lbs truck.

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Pots crushed down and inward and lower wings splayed outward by pressure of pickup truck rolling over it!

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Ok... so I did the most foolish thing ever in my 25+ years of playing bass... and it was to my beloved Sadowsky #233. I broke my cardinal rule: When leaving a gig, always put your gear into your vehicle BEFORE you chat with friends, answer your cell phone, or in other ways, get distracted. I failed to do so, and without going into greater detail, I rolled my 2+ ton pickup over my Sadowsky after last night's worship gig at my church. Talk about "that sunken feeling" in my gut. Yikes!! Needless to say, I quickly jumped out of my truck, pulled my bass out of a visibly damaged gig bag, an instantly looked at the neck, fully expecting it to be snapped or crushed. Now here is where the Grace comes in: The neck was untouched. Sighting down the neck, it was clearly over-bowed. I now became distraught that the truss-rod had been damaged, so I quickly adjusted the truss wheel to provide relief to the neck. Happily, the over-bow was replaced with a nearly flat neck profile. It was then that I saw the visible damage.

My Aquilar TLC pedal was in the gig bag gear pocket sitting above the neck/body junction of my bass and it was what thankfully took the brunt of the damage. Unfortunately, the steel wings of the pedal body were pressed down through the gig bag into the lower horn of my bass by the weight of my truck (see pix) and did some real damage to the body. I am hopeful that Roger and his team might be able to repair this, but in all honestly, I was and am ultimately more concerned with the condition and stability of the neck (and any other potential damage that I can't see), especially since the truss-rod had to be put into a significantly different position for a decent relief that it had been before rolling over it.

After assessing the damage in those first few minutes after the mishap, I quickly checked to see if my #233 could tune up (it did) and also checked the intonation - it was almost spot on! Playing felt a bit different than normal (not surprisingly), but I gained more hope that my bass might have been spared.

I let it sit for the night and then spent a good deal of time this morning assessing things. Other than the obvious damage to the lower horn of the body, there were two additional visible cracks on the inside of the upper and lower horns, one on each side of the neck pocket. Hopefully they are only cosmetic. Additionally, the E string was damaged pretty good, so I decided to change all the strings out. Once that was done, re-checked and adjusted the intonation and again looked the neck over very carefully and made sure the relief was set correctly. Thankfully, the truss rod continues to be functioning normally, and in every way I could see, the neck has suffered no visible damage. Playing still felt a bit different than normal, however, and then it dawned on me to check the neck attachment bolts. The front two were nice and tight, but the back two needed a slight re-tightening. Once that was done - BAM - there is my old friend! WOW! I am going to take it to my gig tonight, and am going to keep a very careful eye on how stable the neck remains over the next few weeks, but I believe I was given a serous dose of grace on this one guys!

Roger - you make one seriously tough instrument! Thank you sir!!!! I hope to get my bass back to you for evaluation and any possible and/or needful repairs in the next few weeks.

I will also check my Aguilar pedal this evening. If it still functions, I will be pleasantly surprised well.

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Grooves left in the lower horn and pickguard by my TLC pedal being crushed into my Sadowsky by my 4400 lbs truck.

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Pots crushed down and inward and lower wings splayed outward by pressure of pickup truck rolling over it!

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I did almost the same murder on my M5-24f last year. The bass is still here, working........thanks Roger.
 
...rolled my 2+ ton pickup over my Sadowsky after last night's worship gig at my church. Talk about "that sunken feeling" in my gut...
WOW! :eek:

Kinda' gives you a reality check though... we get all worried about hard cases and double boxing with all kindsa bubble and foam packing. At the end of the day, a well constructed instrument made of high quality woods is... well... quite frankly, very durable.

Not that it needs to be tested, mind you, but still... it's true. :)