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Club Sadowsky!!!

Ok... so I did the most foolish thing ever in my 25+ years of playing bass... and it was to my beloved Sadowsky #233. I broke my cardinal rule: When leaving a gig, always put your gear into your vehicle BEFORE you chat with friends, answer your cell phone, or in other ways, get distracted. I failed to do so, and without going into greater detail, I rolled my 2+ ton pickup over my Sadowsky after last night's worship gig at my church. Talk about "that sunken feeling" in my gut. Yikes!! Needless to say, I quickly jumped out of my truck, pulled my bass out of a visibly damaged gig bag, an instantly looked at the neck, fully expecting it to be snapped or crushed. Now here is where the Grace comes in: The neck was untouched. Sighting down the neck, it was clearly over-bowed. I now became distraught that the truss-rod had been damaged, so I quickly adjusted the truss wheel to provide relief to the neck. Happily, the over-bow was replaced with a nearly flat neck profile. It was then that I saw the visible damage.

My Aquilar TLC pedal was in the gig bag gear pocket sitting above the neck/body junction of my bass and it was what thankfully took the brunt of the damage. Unfortunately, the steel wings of the pedal body were pressed down through the gig bag into the lower horn of my bass by the weight of my truck (see pix) and did some real damage to the body. I am hopeful that Roger and his team might be able to repair this, but in all honestly, I was and am ultimately more concerned with the condition and stability of the neck (and any other potential damage that I can't see), especially since the truss-rod had to be put into a significantly different position for a decent relief that it had been before rolling over it.

After assessing the damage in those first few minutes after the mishap, I quickly checked to see if my #233 could tune up (it did) and also checked the intonation - it was almost spot on! Playing felt a bit different than normal (not surprisingly), but I gained more hope that my bass might have been spared.

I let it sit for the night and then spent a good deal of time this morning assessing things. Other than the obvious damage to the lower horn of the body, there were two additional visible cracks on the inside of the upper and lower horns, one on each side of the neck pocket. Hopefully they are only cosmetic. Additionally, the E string was damaged pretty good, so I decided to change all the strings out. Once that was done, re-checked and adjusted the intonation and again looked the neck over very carefully and made sure the relief was set correctly. Thankfully, the truss rod continues to be functioning normally, and in every way I could see, the neck has suffered no visible damage. Playing still felt a bit different than normal, however, and then it dawned on me to check the neck attachment bolts. The front two were nice and tight, but the back two needed a slight re-tightening. Once that was done - BAM - there is my old friend! WOW! I am going to take it to my gig tonight, and am going to keep a very careful eye on how stable the neck remains over the next few weeks, but I believe I was given a serous dose of grace on this one guys!

Roger - you make one seriously tough instrument! Thank you sir!!!! I hope to get my bass back to you for evaluation and any possible and/or needful repairs in the next few weeks.

I will also check my Aguilar pedal this evening. If it still functions, I will be pleasantly surprised well.

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Grooves left in the lower horn and pickguard by my TLC pedal being crushed into my Sadowsky by my 4400 lbs truck.

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Pots crushed down and inward and lower wings splayed outward by pressure of pickup truck rolling over it!

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Man, that sucks!!! Thankfully Sadowskys are tough!!!
 
Limeman said:
Ok... so I did the most foolish thing ever in my 25+ years of playing bass... and it was to my beloved Sadowsky #233. I broke my cardinal rule: When leaving a gig, always put your gear into your vehicle BEFORE you chat with friends, answer your cell phone, or in other ways, get distracted. I failed to do so, and without going into greater detail, I rolled my 2+ ton pickup over my Sadowsky after last night's worship gig at my church. Talk about "that sunken feeling" in my gut. Yikes!! Needless to say, I quickly jumped out of my truck, pulled my bass out of a visibly damaged gig bag, an instantly looked at the neck, fully expecting it to be snapped or crushed. Now here is where the Grace comes in: The neck was untouched. Sighting down the neck, it was clearly over-bowed. I now became distraught that the truss-rod had been damaged, so I quickly adjusted the truss wheel to provide relief to the neck. Happily, the over-bow was replaced with a nearly flat neck profile. It was then that I saw the visible damage.

My Aquilar TLC pedal was in the gig bag gear pocket sitting above the neck/body junction of my bass and it was what thankfully took the brunt of the damage. Unfortunately, the steel wings of the pedal body were pressed down through the gig bag into the lower horn of my bass by the weight of my truck (see pix) and did some real damage to the body. I am hopeful that Roger and his team might be able to repair this, but in all honestly, I was and am ultimately more concerned with the condition and stability of the neck (and any other potential damage that I can't see), especially since the truss-rod had to be put into a significantly different position for a decent relief that it had been before rolling over it.

After assessing the damage in those first few minutes after the mishap, I quickly checked to see if my #233 could tune up (it did) and also checked the intonation - it was almost spot on! Playing felt a bit different than normal (not surprisingly), but I gained more hope that my bass might have been spared.

I let it sit for the night and then spent a good deal of time this morning assessing things. Other than the obvious damage to the lower horn of the body, there were two additional visible cracks on the inside of the upper and lower horns, one on each side of the neck pocket. Hopefully they are only cosmetic. Additionally, the E string was damaged pretty good, so I decided to change all the strings out. Once that was done, re-checked and adjusted the intonation and again looked the neck over very carefully and made sure the relief was set correctly. Thankfully, the truss rod continues to be functioning normally, and in every way I could see, the neck has suffered no visible damage. Playing still felt a bit different than normal, however, and then it dawned on me to check the neck attachment bolts. The front two were nice and tight, but the back two needed a slight re-tightening. Once that was done - BAM - there is my old friend! WOW! I am going to take it to my gig tonight, and am going to keep a very careful eye on how stable the neck remains over the next few weeks, but I believe I was given a serous dose of grace on this one guys!

Roger - you make one seriously tough instrument! Thank you sir!!!! I hope to get my bass back to you for evaluation and any possible and/or needful repairs in the next few weeks.

I will also check my Aguilar pedal this evening. If it still functions, I will be pleasantly surprised well.

Grooves left in the lower horn and pickguard by my TLC pedal being crushed into my Sadowsky by my 4400 lbs truck.

Pots crushed down and inward and lower wings splayed outward by pressure of pickup truck rolling over it!

That is amazing! I'll be honest, have Roger check it out. However, I might just leave those two grooves! That is some real "relic" with a story now! Glad your bass came out alive!!!
 
That is amazing! I'll be honest, have Roger check it out. However, I might just leave those two grooves! That is some real "relic" with a story now! Glad your bass came out alive!!!
Personally, I'd still at least do something to cover the wood back up, but yeah, officially fixing it is optional. :)
 
Post gig report:

The Aguilar pedal did not survive. At this point it is just a fancy paperweight with a cool blue light. I'll call them on Monday and discuss options to either repair or junk.

My Sadowsky was merely OK... not quite right. I will definitely be sending it back to Roger for an evaluation. I remain hopeful he and the crew can bring her back to her glory.
 
Post gig report:

My Sadowsky was merely OK... not quite right. I will definitely be sending it back to Roger for an evaluation. I remain hopeful he and the crew can bring her back to her glory.
Sad, but all things considered, not that much of a shock, and I'll cross my fingers for ya. One thing you can be CERTAIN of, is they'll treat you right. :)
 
Question guys and gals:

I love this bass, I really do (Buckeye burl top/Ash/maple Reverse PJ5)...light as a feather, gorgeous, plays like butter once I got the setup figured out and the sound works great under most circumstances...BUT I miss having a mids control :hiding:

There just seems to be not as much low mid punch in there as I'd like, boosting the bass helps somewhat but it's voiced low (which is fine, it IS bass boost afterall), so IME if I boost only a little, its not enough to get the frequencies i'm after (based on a gig last night, among others, it's somewhere between 300 - 550 Hz)...if I boost a lot, well...it's too much boom, not enough definition.

So on to my question: I know the Will Lee mid-boost switch is not an option outside of that model, so i'm wondering is it possible to drop a mid frequency boost/cut (either a switch or an actual knob) into a pre-existing preamp wiring?
 
Question guys and gals:
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So on to my question: I know the Will Lee mid-boost switch is not an option outside of that model, so i'm wondering is it possible to drop a mid frequency boost/cut (either a switch or an actual knob) into a pre-existing preamp wiring?
Only if the mid module was designed specifically for the preamp in question. IMHO, your only real option here is to replace the entire preamp unless Roger decides to make the mid module available.
 
I believe the technology behind the mid eq is completely different from the hi/low boost. This is so the mid control (being either on or off) doesn't effect the rest of the pre.

I think if you want to keep the Sadowsky sound, your best bet would be to look towards your amp's eq or speaker cabinet choice.
 
I believe the technology behind the mid eq is completely different from the hi/low boost. This is so the mid control (being either on or off) doesn't effect the rest of the pre.

I think if you want to keep the Sadowsky sound, your best bet would be to look towards your amp's eq or speaker cabinet choice.

I hear ya, but for a situation like last night where my bass amp died on me just before the gig was about to start and I had to go straight to the mixing board, that control on the bass would have been useful.
 
johndough247 said:
Question guys and gals:

I love this bass, I really do (Buckeye burl top/Ash/maple Reverse PJ5)...light as a feather, gorgeous, plays like butter once I got the setup figured out and the sound works great under most circumstances...BUT I miss having a mids control :hiding:

There just seems to be not as much low mid punch in there as I'd like, boosting the bass helps somewhat but it's voiced low (which is fine, it IS bass boost afterall), so IME if I boost only a little, its not enough to get the frequencies i'm after (based on a gig last night, among others, it's somewhere between 300 - 550 Hz)...if I boost a lot, well...it's too much boom, not enough definition.

So on to my question: I know the Will Lee mid-boost switch is not an option outside of that model, so i'm wondering is it possible to drop a mid frequency boost/cut (either a switch or an actual knob) into a pre-existing preamp wiring?

I've been hoping and wondering the same thing. On gigs I find myself looking for more mids and I use a Thunderfunk with my Sadowsky, but I don't want a WL.
 
My solution was one of these:

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Used strictly as a mid-boost, it solved any issues I was having with the Sadowsky mids. And all the other features of and uses for this great box are kinda like whipped cream and cherries and jimmies on top.

/rick
 
My solution was one of these:

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Used strictly as a mid-boost, it solved any issues I was having with the Sadowsky mids. And all the other features of and uses for this great box are kinda like whipped cream and cherries and jimmies on top.

/rick

Thanks RickC, it does seem like a great option, but I hate the idea of having to use a pedal everytime I use my bass (if I want the tone i'm looking for that is)...still thinking about an onboard option...