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Club Sadowsky!!!

#3,061
KJung said:
As a side note, I would also STRONGLY suggest those considering a P/J model (which is HC by definition, I think) to audition the JJ model with single coils (especially if you typically run your PJ with both pickups on). You might be VERY surprised!
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While I do agree I like the SC sound better, in a P/J, the blended mode will NOT get you hum free as you're suggesting here. Remember, the P is already humbucking so it can't be used "with" the J to buck hum. On a P/J, as long as the bridge pickup is being used, you'll get hum if the J is a SC. Period.

Edit: I see you also said this in a later post.
 
#3,062
BOth my Sadowskys have Nordstrand pickups, but the JJ bass has singles, they're just "big". The PJ bass has a humcancelling pickup in the J position as you can't use a single coil in the J position without getting hum (whether the pickups are blended or not) (Its an NJ4SE FWIW). However as its routed for JJ as well, I have a spare set of Sadowsky singles which I can use. Best of both worlds.

FWIW I think hum is less of a problem in the UK and Australia. I am not an EE, but I wonder if its something to do with 240/50 vs 110/60 that you have in the US. You can deifntely induce hum, but its not as bad as I hear people talking about in the US, even on stage.
 
#3,064
Vic said:
While I do agree I like the SC sound better, in a P/J, the blended mode will NOT get you hum free as you're suggesting here. Remember, the P is already humbucking so it can't be used "with" the J to buck hum. On a P/J, as long as the bridge pickup is being used, you'll get hum if the J is a SC. Period.

Edit: I see you also said this in a later post.
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I must not have written this very well, since both you and Tom missed what I was trying to say:hmm:

My point was that you can't really go single coil in the PJ, and the JJ with singles has more 'vintage bite and grit and mids' to it than the PJ with the HC's IMO and IME:) It seems that many who go for the PJ model are doing so for the somewhat fatter, mid oriented tone versus the JJ with HC's.
 
#3,069
maconbass said:
Ken is saying that if you like the sound of the P/J you might also like the sound of the J/J with single coils.

For those who are worried about 60 cycle hum with the SC's, it is VERY minimal. I doubted that mine were actually SC's when I first got it because they were so quiet.
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Although a solo'd P pickup is a HC sound whereas a solo'd SC J pickup is a SC sound. THere is a fairly noticeable tone difference between my PJ 4 and my Standard 4 (with singles), but then again, they are entirely different basses (materials wise).
 
#3,070
KJung said:
I don't think you can do singles in a P/J, due to the need for the singles needing to 'hum cancel' each other. I could be wrong here, but I don't think that's doable.

I was meaning that the extra heft, punch and mid presence of the singles, while not sounding identical obviously, moves the voicing of the JJ a little more toward 'fat and punchy, like I hear with the P/J.
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On some well-intentioned advice from my then-guitar tech, I tried a a single-coil J pickup on a [non-Sadowsky] P/J (Lindy Fralins for both) and the hum was intolerable. Ended up replacing the J with its hum-cancelling equivalent. I'm assuming you'd get the same results with any P/J, including Roger's. As good as he is, I don't think he's been able to repeal the laws of physics. Yet.

-Steve
 
#3,071
Single coil hum is very dependent on the venue, AC wiring, and lighting.
I have spent a lot of my career working with professional musicians who have hum issues. That is why I have put so much energy into humcancelling pickup designs and electrostatic shielding methods.

Yet, I have customers like Hugh McDonald of Bon Jovi, who are using a single coil original P pickup and has no complaints about hum.

Roger
 
#3,072
Sadowsky said:
Yet, I have customers like Hugh McDonald of Bon Jovi, who are using a single coil original P pickup and has no complaints about hum.

Roger
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Hugh told me his secret is that he has hum-canceling fingers (to go along with his very tasty, monster chops!). :cool:
 
#3,073
Sadowsky said:
Single coil hum is very dependent on the venue, AC wiring, and lighting.
I have spent a lot of my career working with professional musicians who have hum issues. That is why I have put so much energy into humcancelling pickup designs and electrostatic shielding methods.
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Yeah, I play some venues that are absolutely unreal...even many humbucking systems make noise in those places... makes me wonder what's happening to my brain (Tom, shut up. ;)).

However, it is true that your grounding and shielding method is superior, because even among single-coil pickup systems, in the same venue, yours are quieter. I also have "hum issues" but love the SC tone, so this has always been a thorn in my side.
 
#3,077
Mark Latimour said:
Speaking of which, what the hell is that for?? i've got 4 of them that I don't know what to do with!
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Those are covers for the ends of your stand. You know, the part that rests up against the bottom of the headstock if you put your bass in a 'hanging' stand.

Tom.
 
#3,078
tombowlus said:
Those are covers for the ends of your stand. You know, the part that rests up against the bottom of the headstock if you put your bass in a 'hanging' stand.

Tom.
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Or for the "U" shaped neck support of a regular floor stand.
A lot of those rubbers can melt or stain a nitro finish.

Roger
 
#3,079
Mark Latimour said:
Speaking of which, what the hell is that for?? i've got 4 of them that I don't know what to do with!
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Those are covers for guitar stands that have the surgical tubing on them to protect the nitro finish on the necks from being damaged.

Edit: DOH! Too late! :D
 

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