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That's pretty nice!!

If that coating is polyurethane (which I believe Pat does) I believe you will be very happy with it. Much warmer and more natural sounding than epoxy with outstanding wear characteristics. The other thing you can do with polyurethane is hit it with OOOO steel wool to take that shine off it, if you want more of a natural matte wood look to it. Great stuff.
Yup, it's poly. The bare ebony sounded great, but I prefer the sound with poly.
 
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I, unfortunately, had to do this to a Will Lee once. Once.

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Brutal !! I can`t even look lol.
 
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View attachment 1046682 View attachment 1046683 View attachment 1046684 View attachment 1046685 View attachment 1046686 View attachment 1046687 View attachment 1046688 Just got my fretless NYC Modern back from Pat Wilkins. He applied a poly coat to the formerly bare ebony fingerboard. It was a gamble- not on Pat, who does the best finish work on the planet, but rather a gamble tonally. Happy to report the bass sounds fantastic. Seems to have a bit more mwaah than it did bare. Between Roger and Pat, I'm keeping top shelf company.
Did you ship the bass to Pat or are you located close enough to him? I'm considering having a bass refinished at some point.
 
I did this on a WL metro and it saved about 200g/0.5lb, so I thought it was helpful. The side effect is that you see the extra 4 holes from the larger tuner plate on the back of the headstock.

I will weigh some tuners (not at the shop today) but there is no way the weight difference could be as much as 8 ounces. Plus, normal Hipshot Ultralites have aluminum posts. We use those on 5 strings, but we use steel posts on 4 strings.....you do want the additional mass to help reduce deadspots. Again, the biggest cause of neck dive is not the weight of the tuners, but how slippery the underside of your strap is.
 
I will weigh some tuners (not at the shop today) but there is no way the weight difference could be as much as 8 ounces. Plus, normal Hipshot Ultralites have aluminum posts. We use those on 5 strings, but we use steel posts on 4 strings.....you do want the additional mass to help reduce deadspots. Again, the biggest cause of neck dive is not the weight of the tuners, but how slippery the underside of your strap is.
My bad as I'm going from memory (I did this a little over a year ago). According to the docs on Hipshot's website, which is where I got the US ultralites, it would take off about only about half of that, although they don't show numbers for the Xtenders that I found. So to the extent that this doc is relevant, and it may not be given the alu vs. steel point above, it was still a noticeable difference to me on neck balance and I weighed the total bass post-install and it was a few ounces.
 
Hi, I don't own a Sad yet but I'm considering it after trying a MV5 last weekend. But before finally acquiring one
I'd like to know the tonal differences between a Metro MV5-24 and a Metro Modern M5-24?

My main axes since "forever" are my two Fender American Deluxe V. One from 2000 the other one from 2002. But since I tried the Sad, I feel like those basses switched from fantastic to just nice stuff ;)
 
My main axes since "forever" are my two Fender American Deluxe V. One from 2000 the other one from 2002. But since I tried the Sad, I feel like those basses switched from fantastic to just nice stuff ;)

I came to the Sadowsky fold from a being a longtime Fender guy myself. I liked my Metro RV5 so much I bought a 2nd Metro. Within a year. Yeah, G.A.S. hit me hard....

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Modern will have dual coil pickups. The dual coil sound is hard to describe but very distinct, especially when soloed. To overly generalize, it sounds more like a stingray than a jazz or P. The bass I most associate with the dual coil sound is Smith. My Roscoe certainly had it also.
 
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Hi, I don't own a Sad yet but I'm considering it after trying a MV5 last weekend. But before finally acquiring one
I'd like to know the tonal differences between a Metro MV5-24 and a Metro Modern M5-24?

On the Modern, the pickups are closer to the bridge than on the vintage which has the classic Fender Jazz configuration. The end result is that the Modern sounds a bit more modern: more growl and punch. The other perspective is that the Modern has a bit less depth/thump than a J. With EQ you can adjust depth versus punch on any bass, but the basic tonalities will vary: a P-bass can growl, but not like a Stingray... a Stingray can thump, but not like a P... etc etc.
 
I have owned a Sadowsky modern, and they are absolutely wonderful. But, imo, I find less them versatile than some of the other models.

As mentioned, they use the soapbar pickups, which tends to be, well, "modern" sounding. But, imo, the unique character of the modern comes from the placement. The bass doesn't really have a neck pickup. It is more of bridge and mid pickup. This creates a very tight, mid present tone that you can't completely escape on that bass. Not saying it's a one-trick pony, but its character is inescapable. I absolutely loved the one I had, but I never once did a whole gig with it. I always used another bass when seeking a more "classic" sound.

The JJ Sadowsky basses can somewhat grasp that same tone by panning to the bridge PU as far as you prefer. It isn't as complex and unique, but in a live mix, it's very usable.

With either model, the beauty is that the Sadowsky preamp stays very musical even with a significant boost in bass. So, you can keep the low end very present when dialing up the middy, high texture tone.
 
You guys perfectly answered my question! Thanks a lot. You also confirmed my feelings. I'm going to lean toward the JJ.
Also, when I tried the JJ. I was amazed how it was sounding. To me not much to do with a Jazz Bass, but I felt it was closer to my Fender PBs Deluxe despite the JB design. Am I wrong somewhere?
 
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You guys perfectly answered my question! Thanks a lot. You also confirmed my feelings. I'm going to lean toward the JJ.
Also, when I tried the JJ. I was amazed how it was sounding. To me not much to do with a Jazz Bass, but I felt it was closer to my Fender PBs Deluxe despite the JB design. Am I wrong somewhere?

If you were playing a stock Metro, it has HC pickups, not single coils. This and the active circuit is going to point you away from a traditional jazz tone. But to my ear, the Sadowsky preamp is pretty unique. It has color. It sounds like a Sadowsky.
 

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