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Interesting. His post had attachment 152122, which doesn't work, and yours has attachment 152123, which does work (obviously). Are you saying you can also see the other one (still)? Maybe even after closing your browser program completely (all tabs and everything)? It really doesn't matter at this point, just curious is all.
Chef
In Memoriam
So, Last week I went to Bass Northwest in Seattle for the first time. And for the first time I got to play a couple of Metro and also for the first time play a Sadowsky PJ.
If you guys remember, I ask you about the "in my opinion nasal sound of the PJ I've played in the past". well I'm happy to say that none of the 2 metro PJ I've played there had a nasal sound. As a matter of fact, they sounded very full and good. So a PJ Sadowsky may be in my future.
As far as playing a Metro for the first time, well... I don't know that I would compare them to my NYCs but they were amazing and would not think twice about buying one.
While I was there, the guy working there started telling me about Mike Lull basses. He knows Mike Lull and love his basses and suggested I try one. He also was telling how they are as good as a Sadowsky but for half the price
I played a Mike Lull he had in stuck and really liked it but it felt more like playing a Fender then a Sadowsky. Also, I notice that the join neck/body was not as tight and a couple of other things about aesthetics that was not as top notch as a Sadowsky NYC. Things that would not affect sound but none the less, it was noticeable.
I think I would still like to own one of Mike Lull's basses but if I have $2300 to spend, I think I would go with a Metro.
If you guys remember, I ask you about the "in my opinion nasal sound of the PJ I've played in the past". well I'm happy to say that none of the 2 metro PJ I've played there had a nasal sound. As a matter of fact, they sounded very full and good. So a PJ Sadowsky may be in my future.
As far as playing a Metro for the first time, well... I don't know that I would compare them to my NYCs but they were amazing and would not think twice about buying one.
While I was there, the guy working there started telling me about Mike Lull basses. He knows Mike Lull and love his basses and suggested I try one. He also was telling how they are as good as a Sadowsky but for half the price
I played a Mike Lull he had in stuck and really liked it but it felt more like playing a Fender then a Sadowsky. Also, I notice that the join neck/body was not as tight and a couple of other things about aesthetics that was not as top notch as a Sadowsky NYC. Things that would not affect sound but none the less, it was noticeable.
I think I would still like to own one of Mike Lull's basses but if I have $2300 to spend, I think I would go with a Metro.
I find the PJ to be the perfect sound in my head for a fretted bass. I'm ordering a NYC PJ so I can drop some weight - otherwise the Metro RV5PJ kills for what I want. When I'm not playing a fretless that is. We'll see how that all works when the Rob Allen shows up 
I'm surprised to hear about that Lull. I've owned several and have found them to be every bit as top notch as the Sadowsky's I've played or owned. In fact, my current Lull I find much better than the Metro I just had. For one, Lull necks never move. I switched from high tension hex core strings to low tension Dunlops and the action didn't change a bit. That wasn't the case with the Metro I owned. I couldn't keep that thing in the same place for more than a couple of weeks. Probably cuz of the lack of graphite reinforcement? I don't know. Just my experience.
Lulls are definitely much more Fender-like than Sadowsky's. That's the direction Mike is going for. Personally, I much prefer the feel of it. It's much more sleek and less chunky. Plus, I prefer the 18 mm spacing as opposed to the 19. String skipping is a chore on the Sadowskys, IME, and REALLY causes both my arthritis and tendonitis to flair up. But again, that's just me. The Lull is just effortless to play.
I will give the Sadowsky the upperhand on tone, though. It's just perfect with a slight boost in the bass. Exactly what I like in my tone. Really thick. Wish my Lulls could sound like that, to be honest, but they sure ain't lacking for tone either! Just more Fender-ish, which is cool, too.
I never owned a Metro so I can't honestly compare them. I was comparing the Lull to my NYCs.
But don't get me wrong, I liked the lull very much.
I'm a sculptor/wood worker by trade so maybe my eyes are just more use to detail then yours. Maybe not. Just a thought.
Or maybe it was just this one that was like that. Who knows.
The spacing on the Sadowsky is perfect for me and my playing.
I've played a number of Lulls, at GTGs and at BassNW. I find them to be on par with the couple Metros I've tried in terms of construction, but I prefer the tone of the Sadowskys.
That being said, I've rarely played a bass that felt and sounded as good (for a variety of music) to me as my NYC PJ. The only other basses I'd put with it are the Will Lee I played at the shop, and an Alleva I played at a GTG. I haven't played a Lull that spoke to me to the degree that those did.
The Lulls are very nice too though.
That being said, I've rarely played a bass that felt and sounded as good (for a variety of music) to me as my NYC PJ. The only other basses I'd put with it are the Will Lee I played at the shop, and an Alleva I played at a GTG. I haven't played a Lull that spoke to me to the degree that those did.
The Lulls are very nice too though.
Same experience for me - the first time I played a Sadowsky was at BNW. They had a 4 and 5 string UV70 in 3TB. Played them alongside a nice gold Lull they had. I thought they were very similar in quality, but the Sadowsky tone blew the Lull away, IMHO. And I wouldn't even consider ever trading my NYC for a Lull (though I like Mike a lot - he did all of my setup work when I lived in Seattle)...
How do you make a good day better???
"Tom, I am pleased to inform you that your bass will be ready to ship next week."
Best regards,
Kevin Drexler
P/J 5
Teal Green Metallic w/ white pearloid PG
Vintage style
Vintage Tint
Ald/BRW
"Tom, I am pleased to inform you that your bass will be ready to ship next week."
Best regards,
Kevin Drexler
P/J 5
Teal Green Metallic w/ white pearloid PG
Vintage style
Vintage Tint
Ald/BRW
My UV PJ4 is one piece solid ash while my VJ4 is two piece solid ash. Both sound great, but it's true that my PJ vibrates with each note I play, and by this I mean the whole instrument, like when I play my upright and I feel the whole instrument resonating against my body. I can feel it on my J as I could on the other Sadowskys I've played, but on my PJ is just crazy, like those all washing machines shaking the floor when they were drying the clothes (is it called centrifuging in English?).
Is this due to the one piece body? I have no idea, but what I can say is that it's beatiful. The most beautiful piece of ash I've ever seen.
flamed ash (not the best photo, but it is flamed all over the body)
Chef
In Memoriam
"one piece vs two piece ash bodies"
If you can tell that diff between otherwise same make and model, consistently, blindfolded, I'll be the first one to buy you a sixpack of your preference.
If you can tell that diff between otherwise same make and model, consistently, blindfolded, I'll be the first one to buy you a sixpack of your preference.
Chef
In Memoriam
