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Club Sadowsky!!!

Wow! That was perhaps the single best, more articulate post I've ever read on Talkbass! God I love this forum. Its stuff like this that leads me to hold my bass brothers in the highest esteem. Thanks Tom! ..That was spot on!


It is quite probable that I have bought and subsequently returned more Sadowskys than anyone on the face of the Earth (correct me if I am wrong Roger) and I have bought and actually kept 23 (so far! :D ) so I feel compelled to throw my in my $.02 to the above. I have said this over and over in PMs and I have talked to a lot of people over the phone about it as well. In my experience at least just like with any other brand out there, all Sadowskys are NOT created equal. That is not a dis to Roger or anyone out there, it is just in my honest opinion, a fact. I have ordered a bunch of basses from the shop and returned them on the 7 day return. I have also bought several from a couple of different dealers that I returned as well. The very first Sadowsky that I got I took straight to a recording session and cut several tracks with it through headphones.

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I was NOT blown away by the bass immediately and subsequently returned it after trying very hard to love it. Prior to this I had played 2 different Sadowskys that a friend of a friend had and just went NUTS about both of them (played in a live band context.) and KNEW I HAD TO HAVE A SADOWSKY!!!!

A few weeks after I returned the first Sadowsky I got a chance to hear the tracks I had done with it (the NYC Vintage 5 shown above) and I was absolutely FLOORED! I have played on over 4,000 dates and I had NEVER heard anything better in my life that I had played. I was absolutely sick to my stomach that I returned the bass and called the shop the next morning to try and get the bass back but it had already been sold (and is still with the buyer who got it who LOVES IT). The mistake I made was not hearing it in the proper context. If I had have heard the playback I would have realized what I an idiotic thing I was doing.

Flash forward...the very next Sadowsky I got was my beloved NYC Vintage 4.

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Let me tell you THIS IS A BASS!! Like a fool I let GAS get the better of me thinking that I would try some other things and I could always replace her....well trust me, I have been through a LOT of Sadowskys and there is something special about that one over the others as is the case with this one:

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It is ironic that both of these basses are Gold! The first is Champagne Gold and the second is Shoreline Gold. The first was a Regular Vintage 4 and the second is a New York City Ultra Vintage in Nitro. The Shoreline Nitro looks more like a platinum color in person. Both are the shiznit and both are unique in their own way but the one thing in common is their greatness. These 2 particular basses are "better" than ANY other Sadowsky I have had my hands on so far. I estimate that I have had in my hands (for some time frame of at least several days or more) nearly 50 Sadowskys in the last few years and I consider myself to some degree a pretty good expert on them by now. I can honestly say that in all that time I NEVER had a "bad one". I had one instance where there was some weird resonance going on at the C# on the A string on a Metro Ultra Vintage 70 5 String and they took it back and made it right no questions asked.

Now to my point...in all the time I have played them I have had Sadowskys that I thought were better than others. I can't really put my finger right on it but there is something about the one that feels better or sounds better than another one. I think a LOT of it is strings and setup. I HATE the Stainless Steels that come on the new Sadowskys. I LOVE the newer Sadowsky Blue nickels and Sadowsky Flats and I don't use ANY other strings now. I prefer to use very little EQ on the Sadowsky pre and get my tone from the bass itself. I LOVE these basses passive and some sound better than others just because of the nature of the wood. I have found that by having the action EXTREMELY low and the PUPS set too high the tone is choked and the notes have no chance to "breathe". I now have my action a bit higher and my PUPS at standard factory height. One thing I should mention is that I typically find that I HAVE to lower the PUP a bit on the bass side and/or raise the PUPS on the treble side of a bass for the response to be even across the strings...that is NOT the case on the 2 Gold Sadowskys shown here. Both of them are EXTREMELY even up and down the neck and across the strings. Unless you have these traits in your Sadowsky (or ANY bass) you may feel that it doesn't live up to your expectations. Playability is also an intangible thing that you can't measure but you definitely feel. I have been getting Rob L to do all my setups at the shop and have sent in several of my Sadowskys that I have owned a while for him to do setups on. That is not a knock on ANYONE at the shop!!! I know everyone there is a master craftsman. It just so happens that Rob just knows how to setup my basses for ME. Someone else may play one of my basses and think it is unplayable but to me it is like sex on a Sunday morning! There is just something "extra" that happens when the setup is perfect for your playing style. My Gold Sadowsky and my Alleva are like those old jeans that you reach for or that old T-shirt that is so worn you can almost see through it. It is just comfortable!!!!

In my thinking, if you feel there is something "missing" in any instrument, it is most likely something "fixable" like the strings, the battery, the setup, or something else in the signal chain that is the culprit. My first suggestion is pay attention to your setup. Is it comfortable? Is it too low and clacky sounding? Is the tone even across the strings and up and down the neck? You get the idea...change the strings, check the setup, change the battery (even though it is not dead it may be weak) get your strap comfortable!!!! Stupid stuff but it all makes a difference. I have spent a fortune changing strings but I have FOUND what works finally!!! If you do all these things and then the bass doesn't seem or feel right, then it is not! It is not your fault, it is not the bass's fault, it is not the builder's fault. You just did not connect with that bass. No need to apologize at all, an instrument is such a personal thing and when you find the "right" one it is better than food when you're hungry, sex when you haven't had any in a while, and certainly better than ANY drug or beverage I have ever had. If you feel inspired to pick up an instrument and just play for your own enjoyment at any time at all, you have found a "good" one! Play on!

Peace,

T
 
tommix, thanks a lot for your very detailed and honest post - I really enjoy reading stuff like that on TB :).

Firstly, I should confess that I've been having naughty dreams about your #4045 :ninja:, ever since I downloaded a picture of it to put in my "Bass Porn" folder :p. It's good to know that it plays as well as it looks.

I must say too, that I envy you for having the 7 day return option :). I'm in Germany and when I import stuff, customs usually sit on it for about 7 days :p. Besides, I've only ever seriously looked at the Metro range :hmm:.

I know from my experience with Fender and MusicMan basses that it can be very "hit or miss". I know that's not exactly what you're suggesting here tommix, but maybe there is a little bit of that, having an effect :hmm:? That said, "one mans meat is another mans poison" (or whatever the expression is :p), so who's to say what's good and what's bad :hmm:!
 
tommix, thanks a lot for your very detailed and honest post - I really enjoy reading stuff like that on TB :).

Firstly, I should confess that I've been having naughty dreams about your #4045 :ninja:, ever since I downloaded a picture of it to put in my "Bass Porn" folder :p. It's good to know that it plays as well as it looks.

I must say too, that I envy you for having the 7 day return option :). I'm in Germany and when I import stuff, customs usually sit on it for about 7 days :p. Besides, I've only ever seriously looked at the Metro range :hmm:.

I know from my experience with Fender and MusicMan basses that it can be very "hit or miss". I know that's not exactly what you're suggesting here tommix, but maybe there is a little bit of that, having an effect :hmm:? That said, "one mans meat is another mans poison" (or whatever the expression is :p), so who's to say what's good and what's bad :hmm:!

Actually, you are spot on, I am suggesting exactly that. It is indeed "hit or miss" to some degree. I think Roger would be the first to say just because his name is on the headstock doesn't mean that you will absolutely fall in love with the bass you get from him. That is precisely why he does the 7 day return that he does. He is deeply committed to players (ALL PLAYERS not just famous ones!!!!) finding an instrument that speaks to them whether it is a Sadowsky or not. My observation is simply that as many Sadowskys as I have had there have been quite a few instances where I did not connect with a bass and returned it for one reason or another. I think it is a running joke in the shop on whether I will keep one I buy or not!

:hiding:

I think I have probably returned about as many as I have kept (but I have kept a bunch of them and they know I will keep them if I like them!) which just hammers home my point. As long as I buy them and don't connect with them (granted I am VERY picky) they are happy to take them back as long as they are in the shape they were in when they leave and I pay the shipping both ways.


Admittedly, I don't want not to sound snobbish at all but I realize my standards are totally different than most because I make my living with music and have for almost 30 years now. I am a bass player and I am also a professional (ie working) recording engineer so I listen for things that most people would never pay attention to and a bass has to pass a lot of tests with me. I have taken basses out of the case and played them accoustically and just known that they would not work for me because I didn't like the neck profile or the fretwork or etc...By the same token I have played other guys basses that I wondered how they played them. Some sounded great some sounded like total crap but in the end it was that player that decided how the bass should feel to THEM and that is why there is not just one bass or one amp or one_ _ _ _ _ whatever out there. We are all different, noone is right or wrong here, just different. What I was trying to say was that you can try and even the playing field as much as you want with regard to strings, setup, or what have you, but in the end sometimes you still may not connect with an instrument and that is OK. If you try everything you can (IF you feel the effort is worth it!) and it still doesn't work out, no matter what name is on the headstock, it just didn't work out and that is OK.

FWIW - I think Roger will give some kind of return option if you are outside the US if you want to try a NYC on the 7 day but it becomes expensive because of the shipping and custome. I have returned enough and eaten enough of the shipping to buy a NICE Metro!!! Money well spent to find the ones I have though!!

Hope that helps!

Peace,

T
 
One thing I can't stress enough is that if you don't use the onboard PREAMP EQ sparingly you may find that you are not necessarily going to like the sound. The circuit is BOOST only and fully COUNTER CLOCKWISE is F L A T or NO BOOST. Try EVERY Sadowsky like this first and then add a LITTLE bass boost (no more than about 10-30% at the most probably) and leave the treble flat to start with and then tweak from there. I don't know ANYBODY who likes the EQ Dimed on the Sadowsky pre. IT boosts ONLY at 40hz up to +13 db and boosts only at 4Khz up to +13 db....this is A LOT OF GAIN!!!! I repeat again....THIS IS A LOT OF GAIN!!! LOL!

:D :D :D :D :D :eek: :eek: :eek: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

:cool:

I am not screaming in this instance I am trying to emphasize as much as I possibly can. Most active circuits are boost/cut but this is boost only so if you start in the middle with both the treble and bass you are effectively already at +6 or so db at 40hz and +6 or so db at 4Khz. IME this is too much to start with and the bass may not sound musical to you at all. I personally think it sounds like hell with this much EQ but that is my own opinion. I much prefer the natural tone of the bass (I think Roger would agree that it makes little sense to put so much effort into selecting wood blanks if you are only going to use a bloated version of what the wood sound like anyway) with just a little salt (bass boost at 40hz) and pepper (Treble boost at 4Khz) if necessary. I find that I add more salt than pepper usually but that is personal taste....

:cool:

Try using these tips when you play another Sadowsky and then go from there. Better yet, set the bass to passive and see how it sounds that way first, you may find that by running passive (especially recording)
and using your amp (or console) EQ you get better results than you are getting using the onboard pre (BEST BASS EQ circuit ever made but some people may not understand exactly how to use it to best effect)....Hope that helps!

:)

Peace,

T
 
+1 The 24F-5 has a very different vibe from a J/J or P/J Sadowsky. I'd have to say that my 24F-5 doesn't sound as 'pretty' as my P/J 5 when played solo, but in a mix, my 24F-5 is untouchable. It just punches through any mix (without overpowering) and just sounds perfect in a live band context. Conversely, while I can generally plug and play with a Jazz bass in a live setting, sometimes (as a result of a weird room or mix) I have to tweak things a bit to sit just right. On a gig, that 24F-5 just kills from the first downbeat, no matter the room or mix.

Tom.

Yeah, wot he said, same for me and I dig jazz basses. The slap sound is less than stellar but gets the job done. Re some things others mentioned, mine arrived with the pickups set very high and for want of a better description, it sounded wierd. The VTC is a must have for me too. I tend to just boost the bass & treble just a touch and ride the vtc a little (&change technique) for different moods, the effect is different from using the active treble control. And for strings, sr2000 medium lights sure sound and feel good to me. If there's one thing I'd like to try it's an ash/maple sadowsky with modern pickups in the 60's jazz position, I think that might give a compromise of finger and slap tones that would float my boat. One last thought, these basses have some serious mid range push, if you use a rig that is similarly voiced I would expect it to sound hideous. :)
 
Here is my NYC Sad #4018 which I bought used. Ash body, Braz board, Nordy Single NJ4 pups. This bass is very special and never let's me down. When I received it I had to send to Roger for some tweaks as it had a bad E tuner which I replaced with a new Drop-D. Roger cleaned and tuned it up too. It had some weird static thing when I ran my hand down the neck so I guess it was a slight grounding issue but he fixed it. Everyone that picks this bass up shortly looks up at me and just says " wow, or man..., or dang..., this thing is awesome" no joke. I get many compliments on my tone too.

It's not perfect though. On the E string there always seems to be slighty unclear notes between the 6th and 9th fret only on the E. This will vary to the 8th and 11th fret with different strings brands. It is totally undetectable in the mix btw. I only hear it at very low volumes or unplugged. I'm comparing this to all the other notes played all over the bass which are 'perfectly' clear and solid. I've grown used to this but I do wish I could tweak it out.

I've been using Sadowsky Black Label strings for a long time now and recently switched from Nickels to the SS as they seem to work better in the mix on this bass. I also tried the new Blue label Sads but didn't care for them. They sound good but get lost in the mix at least for me and the tension is too loose. So.. I just put on some DR lo-rider SS and so far they are the bomb.
 
One thing I can't stress enough is that if you don't use the onboard PREAMP EQ sparingly you may find that you are not necessarily going to like the sound. The circuit is BOOST only and fully COUNTER CLOCKWISE is F L A T or NO BOOST. Try EVERY Sadowsky like this first and then add a LITTLE bass boost (no more than about 10-30% at the most probably) and leave the treble flat to start with and then tweak from there. I don't know ANYBODY who likes the EQ Dimed on the Sadowsky pre. IT boosts ONLY at 40hz up to +13 db and boosts only at 4Khz up to +13 db....this is A LOT OF GAIN!!!! I repeat again....THIS IS A LOT OF GAIN!!! LOL!

:D :D :D :D :D :eek: :eek: :eek: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

:cool:

I am not screaming in this instance I am trying to emphasize as much as I possibly can. Most active circuits are boost/cut but this is boost only so if you start in the middle with both the treble and bass you are effectively already at +6 or so db at 40hz and +6 or so db at 4Khz. IME this is too much to start with and the bass may not sound musical to you at all. I personally think it sounds like hell with this much EQ but that is my own opinion. I much prefer the natural tone of the bass (I think Roger would agree that it makes little sense to put so much effort into selecting wood blanks if you are only going to use a bloated version of what the wood sound like anyway) with just a little salt (bass boost at 40hz) and pepper (Treble boost at 4Khz) if necessary. I find that I add more salt than pepper usually but that is personal taste....

:cool:

Try using these tips when you play another Sadowsky and then go from there. Better yet, set the bass to passive and see how it sounds that way first, you may find that by running passive (especially recording)
and using your amp (or console) EQ you get better results than you are getting using the onboard pre (BEST BASS EQ circuit ever made but some people may not understand exactly how to use it to best effect)....Hope that helps!

:)

Peace,

T
Awesome posts Tom. A great read for anyone who owns or is thinking about purchasing a Sadowsky. I'm lovin' MV5 more and more every day. It feels just like a old pair of jeans... awesome set-up, light weight, just feels right and plays like a dream. It's unlike any other instrument that I have ever owned. I use the preamp very sparingly and use just a touch of the VTC when slapping.

Easily the best musical instrument purchase I have ever made!

LR
 
Sadowskys are a different beast than any other J bass i've played. They do have a lil learning curve to find out how it performs at its best. However, once you figure it out, it is one of the sweetest payoffs in tone and playability. The other thing that has been mentioned before is how well these basses perform IN THE MIX. Honestly, I was not real excited by how my MV5 sounded at home, but after hearing it recorded and in a live band context, I was sold.
 
After the months of waiting, I've just got the Fedex tracking details for my entry to the Sadowsky club!:)

Have got this baby on the way:
MV4 with Single coils, D-tuner and VTC!

It arrived yesterday and is frickin cool so far!!!
Just need to changeover to Elixirs and lower the action a tad, then can't wait to get out rocking with my new Sadowsky!

..................will just need a Club membership number now! :smug:
 
Actually, you are spot on, I am suggesting exactly that. It is indeed "hit or miss" to some degree. I think Roger would be the first to say just because his name is on the headstock doesn't mean that you will absolutely fall in love with the bass you get from him. That is precisely why he does the 7 day return that he does. He is deeply committed to players (ALL PLAYERS not just famous ones!!!!) finding an instrument that speaks to them whether it is a Sadowsky or not. My observation is simply that as many Sadowskys as I have had there have been quite a few instances where I did not connect with a bass and returned it for one reason or another. I think it is a running joke in the shop on whether I will keep one I buy or not!

:hiding:

I think I have probably returned about as many as I have kept (but I have kept a bunch of them and they know I will keep them if I like them!) which just hammers home my point. As long as I buy them and don't connect with them (granted I am VERY picky) they are happy to take them back as long as they are in the shape they were in when they leave and I pay the shipping both ways.


Admittedly, I don't want not to sound snobbish at all but I realize my standards are totally different than most because I make my living with music and have for almost 30 years now. I am a bass player and I am also a professional (ie working) recording engineer so I listen for things that most people would never pay attention to and a bass has to pass a lot of tests with me. I have taken basses out of the case and played them accoustically and just known that they would not work for me because I didn't like the neck profile or the fretwork or etc...By the same token I have played other guys basses that I wondered how they played them. Some sounded great some sounded like total crap but in the end it was that player that decided how the bass should feel to THEM and that is why there is not just one bass or one amp or one_ _ _ _ _ whatever out there. We are all different, noone is right or wrong here, just different. What I was trying to say was that you can try and even the playing field as much as you want with regard to strings, setup, or what have you, but in the end sometimes you still may not connect with an instrument and that is OK. If you try everything you can (IF you feel the effort is worth it!) and it still doesn't work out, no matter what name is on the headstock, it just didn't work out and that is OK.

FWIW - I think Roger will give some kind of return option if you are outside the US if you want to try a NYC on the 7 day but it becomes expensive because of the shipping and custome. I have returned enough and eaten enough of the shipping to buy a NICE Metro!!! Money well spent to find the ones I have though!!

Hope that helps!

Peace,

T

All good stuff tommix, thanks again for enlightening me :).

I share your view about the EQ - it's best used sparingly. I have an outboard Sadoswky pre-amp pedal too, which I use with all of my Fenders (in varying doses). Roger really does seem to have aced it with that circuit :) - I've had several other inboard pre's and a Sansamp BDDI (not quite the same thing, I know, but without adding drive it can function as a straight preamp) and yet none of them are as easy to use or as "musical" as the Sadowsky.

This brings me on to a key admission, which might irritate a few people, but would certainly explain my dissatisfaction with the MV4 .... I didn't like the passive sound of it at all :hiding:.

:( My belief, after having played it through all kinds of amp settings in my Bass Pod and "clean" through my Markbass stack (a pretty clear and "uncoloured" amp, when you want it to be ;)) was that "the tone" that everyone here raves about, came exclusively from the preamp. From what I've subsequently read here, it would seem that that is not the idea at all and that the bass should sing, even in passive mode :hmm:.

So, maybe we've got to the bottom of the mystery. The tone that I was really looking for was the Marcus Miller, attacking, funky snap (which my '76 maple neck Jazz does perfectly with the Sadowsky floor pre). I guess that it's wrong to expect an 8.9lb swamp ash/maple Jazz to sound exactly the same as an 11.3lb fossilised ash/maple :p Jazz :).

Anyway, as I've already said, I'm certainly not sworn off Roger's basses and look forward to one day coming back for a second bite of the cherry :smug:. I'll just try my best to find one that I can try out first, next time :eyebrow:.
 
As of 5JUNE08:
1 - Roger Sadowsky
2 - MikeBass
3 - AJ Brown
4 - kobass
5 - thehurlatron
6 - dragonbass
7 - 5stringwonder
8 - JRBrown
9 - Nino Valenti
10 - Alexander
11 - Jim Carr
12 - Shelly
13 - Munjibunga
14 - Steve
15 - rob2966
16 - ric426
17 - jhoffmann33
18 - Chunk-O-Funk
19 - burk48237
20 - Marcus
21 - bikeplate
22 - ogyen
23 - grooveguru
24 - Joeykun
25 - MAJOR METAL
26 - tommixx
27 - albass111
28 - JansenW
29 - Drucocu
30 - Steve Clark
31 - Rhythm5
32 - Fender32
33 - jazzbo58
34 - KPO2000
35 - FbassDave
36 - abngourmet
37 - HiFi
38 - frandiaz
39 - PocketGroove82
40 - Alistair R
41 - Jeff Rader
42 - Baird6869
43 - Senor SQUID
44 - Russell Bergum
45 - KJung
46 - BigMikeW
47 - steve9000gi
48 - Dirty Dave
49 - Big String
50 - Jerry J
51 - OpaqueBass
52 - phatbass30
53 - bmc
54 - Sean Baumann
55 - tombowlus
56 - Mr_Dave
57 - mlowe
58 - pedroferreira
59 - AxtoOx
60 - maconbass
61 - jokerjkny
62 - simongpaez
63 - BassSlave
64 - JimS
65 - Squish
66 - Craig Garfinkel
67 - BOOTZY
68 - thewanderer24
69 - Bassboy
70 - McHack
71 - chingas
72 - basscollection
73 - bugbass
74 - Cory
75 - Cheesewiz
76 - svtb15
77 - coelho
78 - gillento
79 - mero
80 - justabass
81 - Jeff K
82 - Vic
83 - mrDOS
84 - pstyle
85 - jediBass5
86 - HMan!!!!!! (Luck duck!!! Enjoy her!!)
87 - ricardex
88 - polo515
89 - T-MOST
90 - jzbass6
91 - Blake Bass
92 - Saluki
93 - Fuzzbass
94 - Pako
95 - VinatgeBT6
96 - BartmanBDX
97 - LesFunk
98 - thefatherssong
99 - Marcin Łatko
100 - pinchdawg
101 - cavemusic
102 - Alexander
103 - Woolysock
104 - Loudarama
105 - Lizzy D
106 - jdwinva
107 - Wadge
108 - KevinLane
109 - specs
110 - Nenor
111 - noisetree
112 - RockBoxBass
113 - Blues Infidel
114 - Pickles
115 - GDCX
116 - MAISKESO
117 - Hyperba55
118 - DrSmaggs
119 - alembicbones
120 - pan_of_qld
121 - lgrankin
122 - Giterdone
123 - ClassicJazz
124 - Rusty the Scoob
125 - Andy Will
129 - Funnyfreddie
133 - BASSKADET

OK guys, I have a little problem.
I know I'm the one who started this "Club" and keeps the list, but my time getting to TB lately (and I predict going forward as well) is real tight.
So, I know I haven't updated or really been able to keep up with the action in this thread, I would like to know if there is someone who I can hand over the list to and who would keep it going.

Please PM me and we'll talk.

Thanks guys!

BTW- Andy.....#125!!:D
 
There is no question that someone who has a traditional J-bass sound in his head may not warm to the 24F-5. On the other hand, others who have tried it for the first time have fallen in love with it.


Roger

+1 to that.
The 24F-5 was THE tone I heard in my head, and the playability is nothing short of incredible. And FWIW I've owned several Sadowskys including a RV5 and a S4 with single coils. Both were awesome, but the 24 just cuts through and fills in the mix like nothing else I've tried. This is the bass I was hoping my Roscoe SKB would be (but wasn't) and I'm glad I came across it.
 
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So, maybe we've got to the bottom of the mystery. The tone that I was really looking for was the Marcus Miller, attacking, funky snap (which my '76 maple neck Jazz does perfectly with the Sadowsky floor pre). I guess that it's wrong to expect an 8.9lb swamp ash/maple Jazz to sound exactly the same as an 11.3lb fossilised ash/maple :p Jazz :).

Anyway, as I've already said, I'm certainly not sworn off Roger's basses and look forward to one day coming back for a second bite of the cherry :smug:. I'll just try my best to find one that I can try out first, next time :eyebrow:.

Hey Andy,

So we both are looking for the same thing: Sadowsky Ultra Vintage in Maple/Ash! 4 string for you, I suppose, and a 5 string for me!
Although I really like my MV5 a lot.

And I am giving the M5-24 another try at tonight's gig.
 
As of 5JUNE08:
OK guys, I have a little problem.
I know I'm the one who started this "Club" and keeps the list, but my time getting to TB lately (and I predict going forward as well) is real tight.
So, I know I haven't updated or really been able to keep up with the action in this thread, I would like to know if there is someone who I can hand over the list to and who would keep it going.

Please PM me and we'll talk.

Thanks guys!

BTW- Andy.....#125!!:D

Mike, PMed.
 
Fran is now the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hit him for your numbers!


Thanks Fran!

you're welcome. It's a real pleasure to serve our 'comunity' of Sadowsky nuts. :D

One question for you and the other members:
What should we do with the numbers (and members) that got rid of their Sadowsky gear? I think that using those numbers for new members alters the chronological order. Is it fine if I just mark them as "deceased" :D
 

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