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Club Sadowsky!!!

In many circumstances it is best having the cab coupled with the floor. If it was intergated into the design you would have no choice.
I think you're off base a bit here. The kind of coupling you get on a solid surface (like a concrete slab) is acoustic, not mechanical, so vibration isolation doesn't do anything for or against it... since you can't significantly vibrate a concrete slab... with a bass rig anyway. :)

So with a Gramma, what you're doing is isolating a hollow stage from (at least hopefully a good amount of) the mechanical coupling, and still preserving the acoustic coupling. That's the ideal solution. Studio folks have been doing this kind of thing for YEARS with control room monitors. This is a WELL proven model.

However, I can see a downsides to trying to build vibration isolation into a cab. First of all, which side do you put it on? Sometimes we like to put our cabs upright, sometimes sideways. Also, you really want the cabinet to be free to vibrate and resonate. That's part of the cabinet design, so you'd be relegated into some really strange designs like having four connection points and air space between the cabinet wall and the vibration damper. Secondly, it adds cost to the cabinet, and (just as you point out above) vibration isolation is not always needed.

Considering the fact that stuff like the Gramma already exists out there, that it's not at all expensive, and the flexibility of having it be outboard gear you can use any way you like, that really seems like, by far, the best solution... what we already have. :)
 
That is a great idea! I just picked up some from Sports Authority, they are street hockey pucks, but I think they will work fine.

Actually I think that's what they were made for originally.They are very stiff foam but you can squeeze them a bit, right? Mine say "Made In Slovakia" on the edge. The flat surfaces are sloped off a bit at the edges.
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EDIT: Very stiff black foam,(flat black/not shiny), knurled textured edges with "official" "made in slovakia" & "VEGUM" (probably the make) written on the edge. These are the real deal if you can get 'em.
 
If the Gramma and other vibration reduction devices work as well as reported why don't cabinet manufacturers include integral ones in their designs?

Are there any downsides?
Yes. See my reply to Peter's post above, which was really to both of you. :)
 
NO! Don't leave the club, just switch to a JJ or PJ!!! :)

But I need 24 frets...and I can't afford new. I can barely afford this. Now, if I could find a 24 fret 5 string JJ for under $2,000 that sounded like my old RV4 in seafoam green, then I'd be a lifer.

Oh, and I'd need to be able to trade my M5-24 or sell it to finance said purchase.
 
Actually I think that's what they were made for originally.They are very stiff foam but you can squeeze them a bit, right? Mine say "Made In Slovakia" on the edge. The flat surfaces are sloped off a bit at the edges.
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The ones I got are orange and say "Franklin Street Hockey" on them. These are not really stiff, but I think they will be fine with the rig I intend to use them with, a GK MB212 combo which only weighs around 37 lbs. That rig sits flush on the ground, so I think these will help on hollow stages. My big rig the cabinets are on wheels, so they never have been an issue. But I did a gig this past weekend and I was having some boomy issues with the GK and the stage. Probably even on a milk crate would have helped.
 
But I need 24 frets...and I can't afford new. I can barely afford this. Now, if I could find a 24 fret 5 string JJ for under $2,000 that sounded like my old RV4 in seafoam green, then I'd be a lifer.

Oh, and I'd need to be able to trade my M5-24 or sell it to finance said purchase.

Vic,

This sounds like a good time to post your Metro V24F5 and show Steve his next bass!!! :D
 
But I need 24 frets...and I can't afford new. I can barely afford this. Now, if I could find a 24 fret 5 string JJ for under $2,000 that sounded like my old RV4 in seafoam green, then I'd be a lifer.
Well, that'll be a bit rough, since they don't make a ton of them, and at that price, you'll have to wait around for a used Metro model, most likely.

Oh, and I'd need to be able to trade my M5-24 or sell it to finance said purchase.
I deem this acceptable. As long as you end up with a Sadowsky again. ;) :)

Ok, here's the plan...

Start saving your shekels, sell the M5-24 and add to that, and by the time all is said and done, you'll only be maybe a couple hundred bux away from a new Metro 24 fret JJ model, and you can just buy it and be THE owner of that wonderful bass. You could probably even order your own preferred finish and wait for it to come in this way. Howzattsownd? :)
 
I didnt mean sell him yours! More like post a pic so he can see one of those MV5-24-V-F5-9er whatever its called! :D
AHHHH, ok, yeah.

Well, mine's not on the site, and they apparently haven't gotten any more in (none on the sold page) but I did get a picture of it from them, so here's mine (assuming Steve would want to stick with the ash/maple theme):

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Otherwise, they did get one RV5-24 on the web site and sell it:

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Interestingly, at one point in the spring, it looked like they had several of the *V5-24 models on the incoming list, but they never showed up on the site, so either those got shifted out of the schedule, or like mine, they got nabbed before they ended up on the web site.