I loved it, I went to neverender in chicago, just went to the Good Apolo vol 1 night, it was superb, I coulda used a lil less bass drum, dont know why every band I see live turns up the kick wayyyy to much, even when my own band plays with PA support I gotta ask for less sometimes.
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Coheed and cambria, YOTBR
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I loved it, I went to neverender in chicago, just went to the Good Apolo vol 1 night, it was superb, I coulda used a lil less bass drum, dont know why every band I see live turns up the kick wayyyy to much, even when my own band plays with PA support I gotta ask for less sometimes.
im in the boat of absolutely loving this cd....its amazing. it didnt need to grow on me at all i was hooked the first time i listened to it. its so different from what they've done and you really need to have some of the story to get into it that much. its a love story, the cd's the prequel, its coheed and cambria before anyone was dead when everything was good and starting to go south. the cd reflects every bit of it. the sound is unbelievable i think. mic stands out, you can hear everything clearly, and they did different things. claudio getting his opportunity to bring some PFI to Coheed was awesome. the writing style on this is very much like in keeping secrets. for me this is their best work to date with good apollo volume 1 a close second.
i saw them 3 of the 8 shows they played up here in the northeast (Roch, Syr, and northern lights)...which by the way my band has played the westcott twice and i feel so damn good about having played the same stage that coheed has now
, any way live...they are better then they have been in a long time. the shows blew neverender away by miles(went to all 4 in NYC)
i saw them 3 of the 8 shows they played up here in the northeast (Roch, Syr, and northern lights)...which by the way my band has played the westcott twice and i feel so damn good about having played the same stage that coheed has now
, any way live...they are better then they have been in a long time. the shows blew neverender away by miles(went to all 4 in NYC)
Not bad but nothing special after the first few spins. Sort of disappointing. Can't say there is a track that really jumps out at me.
Time for the band to evolve so to speak. The have the talent to do some different things and still be powerful and I thought this would be the album to signal a move toward something new. This album was a little too safe for my tastes.
Time for the band to evolve so to speak. The have the talent to do some different things and still be powerful and I thought this would be the album to signal a move toward something new. This album was a little too safe for my tastes.
the female singers were a little much on neverender. they keys are spot on. i get that they watched pink floyd's pulse entirely too many times, but i feel like there was a certain perfect simplicity in having 4 guys on stage, a drum tech to stop the crash in favor house, and someone triggering tracks backstage. the old school lights, video and stage props were cool. **** flying from the ceiling.. a little much.
i feel like theres going to be one giant divide in the coheed history. post and pre eppard. things clearly changed sonically, better or worse. its night and day. they had to make a move, but theres no replacing him. pennie was never fit for that bill.
i feel like theres going to be one giant divide in the coheed history. post and pre eppard. things clearly changed sonically, better or worse. its night and day. they had to make a move, but theres no replacing him. pennie was never fit for that bill.
I think Pennie's role is yet to be judged, it's his first record, and I think the sound change has alot more to do with Atticus Ross' production. I've seen the tunes live, and they still sound like Coheed, stripped of much of the production from the record.
As to the girls at Neverender, I couldn't disagree more. One of my favorite parts about Coheed on record is the amazing harmonies/BG vocals Claudio does. Not hearing them live really hurts alot of the tunes IMO, and the girls helped out alot in that respect.
And I was at Neverender and don't remember anyone flying from the ceiling.
the ceiling props were in the last supper (hammerstein) dvd. that was a little much for me. it was clearly a take on pink floyd's pulse, and i think they are quoted as saying just that.
i agree that we lose a lot live because no one is singing the harmonies, but ive been to enough coheed shows to know that claudio is a touch too big for his boots. the insane rhythm parts he plays, coupled with his love of NOT holding still.. something has to give. and he skips entire lines of lyrical content. the girls did everything perfectly. but claudio's inconsistency made them BOTH sound silly. im sure in the practice room it was incredible.
pennie came from progressive metalcore. DEP is as much a physical feat as a mental one. he CAME from overplaying. everything about that music was gridlocked to a beat. no groove, no swing, just crazy time signature destruction. and thats cool. but throwing him in a nu prog rock band.. well you might as well have mike portnoy backing up fall out boy. its way too over the top.
i cant remember the song, but pennie finally cuts loose a fill that is the most shred-tacular metal thing ive ever heard. CoCa isnt a metal band. its too much for me. eppard was a jazz drummer. a good chunk of IKSOSE3 was in 3/4. he was at home.
i watched neverender in its entirety. i saw them with pennie a while back live as well. hes a gridlock drummer. and tasteless. eppard had ALL kinds of swing and every move was classy. one isnt better than the other by any means, but pennie is not, IMO, fit for that band. he should be joining a7x now that the rev has passed on.
this is of course, all opinion. im not normally one to talk drummers, as im not one and dont have the clout to do so. but this is one situation in which i can make a very clear distinction, and i have to pick favorites.
+1, except for the part that equates the two drummers.
I was reminded of Chris Pennie when I watched this local band promoting their album. The drummer's what I call a wanker: at every opportune/inopportune moment he'd let loose a fill that crams in as many notes as possible. Technical? Sure. Musical? Definitely not.
Josh Eppard plays less notes, but when he swings his sticks down, every beat counts, especially on the snare and hi-hats.
Things just went south when heroin took over. Eppard left the band, Todd sold his spectors to fund his drugs and came back with Fenders, they hire a wanker drummer, the list goes on
+1, except for the part that equates the two drummers.
I was reminded of Chris Pennie when I watched this local band promoting their album. The drummer's what I call a wanker: at every opportune/inopportune moment he'd let loose a fill that crams in as many notes as possible. Technical? Sure. Musical? Definitely not.
Josh Eppard plays less notes, but when he swings his sticks down, every beat counts, especially on the snare and hi-hats.
Things just went south when heroin took over. Eppard left the band, Todd sold his spectors to fund his drugs and came back with Fenders, they hire a wanker drummer, the list goes on
Everyone says he sold his basses for drugs but I really don't believe that. He still has his Geddy which he uses quite a bit again and last year he even brought out the euro for some shows.
As far as pennies I think hes an extremely respectable drummer and one of the best....I disagree that he's over the top. He hits his technical parts as he should...the whole new CD is a big technical step for all of them. Claudios guitar parts for a rhythm guitarist are nuts to be singing at the same time and mics basslines are off the charts compared to past work. You really have to see these songs live to appreciate them completely
NicJimBass
Flossin'? I thought your name was Munson!
I fell in love with CoCa after listening to IV, pt 1, which, to me, is their best album of the bunch. Can't really get into SSTB or IKSOSE3... a little to "emo" sounding for me, I guess. I thought NWFT was a good album, especially after repeated listening, and I've just started in on YOTBR. So far Juggernaut is my fave on the album... the chorus is killer, and gives me the emotional feeling I look for in music. That's what IV gives me over the rest of the albums.
He did?! Then perhaps there's hope after all!
Can't agree with you on this, but hey, we can still agree to disagree. I'm judging this all on the four nights of Neverender, by the way. I didn't really like their live shows after Eppard left. That was comparing both the way he interpreted Eppard's drum lines on the first three albums, and how he played his own lines on NWFT.
NicJimBass
Flossin'? I thought your name was Munson!
He did?! Then perhaps there's hope after all!
Can't agree with you on this, but hey, we can still agree to disagree. I'm judging this all on the four nights of Neverender, by the way. I didn't really like their live shows after Eppard left. That was comparing both the way he interpreted Eppard's drum lines on the first three albums, and how he played his own lines on NWFT.
Well he was still interpreting lines on no world he didn't play on that album either. I like what he's done, to me, he added the heaviness that Claudio was always trying to get on live songs but just couldn't out of eppard. Don't get me wrong I wish I could jam with either of them,it'd be on par with some kind of religious experience. Eppard was great I think pennie is too. As far as the euro, YouTube coheed red rain,I would have to say what mic did with the bassline is nothing short of mind blowing and his tone is about enough for me to murder someone to get that.
Yup he did. I was referring to him playing Eppard's lines and his own on the Neverender series of concerts. Just...couldn't feel the groove when he was playing. Compared to Live at Starland Ballroom, Neverender was just
Yup he did. I was referring to him playing Eppard's lines and his own on the Neverender series of concerts. Just...couldn't feel the groove when he was playing. Compared to Live at Starland Ballroom, Neverender was just
i hope you mean hammerstien. the starland ballroom show was terrible haha.
No I do mean Starland Ballroom. Hammerstein was great too! They 'felt' better on the whole compared to Neverender, because it didn't seem that the band was conserving energy just to survive their set.
heard it on bass heavy car sound system.. could hear a lot of kick drum, could hear no bass. synth and drums overcrowd it.
It's not my favorite, but compared to just about any modern mainstream rock, It's fantastic. Plus I get to see them along with Circa in 6 days at the Palladium Ballroom in Dallas!
wow, sorry for not posting for so long...im glad to see that im not the only one that thought it waa lame, im just suprised you are all still listening to it just cuz its better than the MS, frankly, the album was unacceptable by their standards, and
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nwft- 4 and as far as im concerned, year was never made...
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I have been a huge Coheed fan since they came out back in 2002, and honestly i love this album. I think its a great evolution for them. It may not be the same as the other albums but who would continue to listen to a band if all the songs sounded the same?
The live shows will be even more stellar now since they can play the ripping classic rock songs, catchy pop songs and this new post rockish/industrial-pop stuff. I'm stoked to see them in May.
If you start to expect all the albums to be the same 'genre' then i think you're expecting to much from older bands. When you write as much as Coheed you need to mix it up, rock, punk, electronic, try your hand at it all. I think its super great for what it is. Not the best classic rock album, or punk album, but why force them into a category, that would make them boring!
The live shows will be even more stellar now since they can play the ripping classic rock songs, catchy pop songs and this new post rockish/industrial-pop stuff. I'm stoked to see them in May.
If you start to expect all the albums to be the same 'genre' then i think you're expecting to much from older bands. When you write as much as Coheed you need to mix it up, rock, punk, electronic, try your hand at it all. I think its super great for what it is. Not the best classic rock album, or punk album, but why force them into a category, that would make them boring!
Exactly what I'm talking about.I love the CD regardless of how anyone else feels and honestly these few people that don't like it seem to be the huge minority in the fanbase
